Now the real face of the congress government has come to the fore. The same congress party was saying that Indo US nuke deal does not have any Hyde act implications and it is US's internal law not applicable to india. How come the government is suddenly worried about Hyde Act. BJP was pressing for the same to be removed from N deal and was put to corner by Manmohan singh and its party men saying that their is nothing like Hyde act.
Whole country has been made to believe that Nuke deal is good for the country in the current form.
RE:This is utter non sense by Congress
by Nitin on Jul 24, 2008 07:57 PM Permalink
Because it has to first pass thru IAEA without much hurdles, stupid! And if we already modify our rules etc. its going to be difficult at IAEA.
Anyway, its just a safety precaution. Future testing, its after-effects, strategic programmes all depend on the guts, diplomacy and willpower of the govt of the day!
RE:This is utter non sense by Congress
by Nitesh jain on Jul 24, 2008 08:20 PM Permalink
If you dont know anything abount deal you should barge on the same, Indo US deal is altogether separate from the IAEA and hyde act is nothing to do with IAEA. You prove that you are a stupid who think that entire world is stupid!
RE:RE:This is utter non sense by Congress
by Nitesh jain on Jul 24, 2008 08:23 PM Permalink
The point i was trying to make is that there was denial from the side of congress that Hyde act is nothing to do with indian nuclear programme and if BJP has suggested that same should be removed. I dont think they have done anything wrong in that. I also think that you should also feel happy not me or BJP, if the same has been accepted by congress because it will also has implication on your life.
RE:RE:RE:This is utter non sense by Congress
by prabhat mohanty on Jul 24, 2008 08:45 PM Permalink
- In business bargain or International bargains, a good negotiator would move step by step, particularly when one is operating in negative environment.
Similarly here, we needed to create an environment where the world would see that USA, only super power is interested in the deal. Since almost every country has some stake in USA, they would come around.
In US congress also there are oppositions to the deal. For example Pakistan has also been aiming for similar deal with USA but could not manage. Naturally Pakistan will create through lobbyists. And senator can throw a stinker.
Idea is to show the world, that this is a two way process.
India has accomodated. So did USA.
Both moved few steps forward to meet at a mid point.
USA needs India for strategic reasons. India too need USA for similar reasons.
But we need to show that both of us have been accomodating each other.
It should not look like one sided affair.
Once we cross few crucial points, we will open few cards that would bring us strategic advantages.
So it's a serious and complicated bargain in that sense. One has to play it cleverly.
BJP is behaving like a guest who shouts and creates scene to see all that has been cooked in the kitchen before starting with the soup for the dinner.
That action only embarasses the host because the guest does not trust the host.
RE:This is utter non sense by Congress
by prabhat mohanty on Jul 24, 2008 08:31 PM Permalink
- When you participate in discussion about strategic importance, you need think differently. Not just in linear manner.
Both USA and India would be governed by respective Domestic Laws.
In football matches, you have both "forward" to take the ball forward and "back" to defend.
The game plan is based on the mix.
Similarly, since 123 agreement says we would be governed by our respective domestic law, amendments in the Atomic Energy Act would insulate the country's strategic interests.
We can not change other's domestic law. And ofcourse we can not remove it easily. So better option would be to create an option that would close all flanks leaving no chances in cases of emergency.
RE:This is utter non sense by Congress
by Nitesh jain on Jul 24, 2008 08:36 PM Permalink
I think you have answered my question in your quote itself. To create a protection wall first you need to find out the threat and its direction. If you do not accept that Hyde act is applicable (in probability also) to india, you will not invoke such a move and fact of the matter is that congress has never accepted this fact that Hyde act is applicable to india even in probable scenario.
