If a Whip is Issued and the Member acts against it, Which if is Proved, The Member will be stripped off his Membership of the House by the Speaker.
But, WHY At all should a Vote be allowed to be Cast by the Member When the WHIP is given So much importance by the Constitution ?
Instead the Constitution should Say that ONLY the Whip has the Right to Vote as per the Decision of his party And His Vote in the House Equals all the Votes of All his Party Members.
The People who elect a Member Vote Seeing the Party manifesto or Listening to the Promises of the Party Leaders. Why Should a Member be allowed to Sell his Membership of the House, In International Markets - including on Issues related to the Sovereignity, Economics and Security of India ???
Any Member Who wants go against the Party Line should be given only one Option of Resigning from his Membership before the Voting Ends.
This Kind of Law/Amendment Will End the GREAT INDIAN BAZAAR of Democracy.
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by Sachin Purohit on Jul 23, 2008 09:30 PM Permalink
Although I sympathize with the sentiment with which you have written this (I also wanted the government to fall), I disagree with the suggestion. The vote is always an individual choice. A party can not have a say for the vote. The particular individual is supposed to act on his own conscience. So why do we have a party whip? Its a mechanism devised by the collective wisdom of our lawmakers to curb horse-trading. In the absence of whip, there is a tendency for horse-trading. Our MPs unfortunately misuse the most important tool given to them by the people who elected them, by trading it for money, ministry and all other spoils.
In other words, whip says that look - you got elected on our party's ideology. You can't defy our ideology and still continue to be our member. You are free to cast your vote any which way or infact not cast your vote at all. But there is a consequence to your act - relinquish the seat you got in Lok Sabha, fighting on our party's ticket. Dare to go back to the people as an Independant or on other party's ticket. If the people are convinced that you voted, keeping their interest in mind, they will reelect you else they will kick you at the right place.
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by Kanwaljit Sodhi on Jul 23, 2008 09:41 PM Permalink
I agree with you, the whip should be abolished as per the current situations, the law makers should vote for or against policies not the party egos and woes.
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by Sachin Purohit on Jul 23, 2008 11:23 PM Permalink
Kanwaljit..you are agreeing to something that I have not said. My comment, correctly read, does not advocate abolishion of whip. It simply says that whip is relevant. Its for the individual to weigh his options. Whether s/he wants to defy the whip and pay the price for his/her defiance. I am simply justifying the constitutional provision for the whip. So when you are saying that whip should be abolished, you are disagreeing with me.
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by Indian on Jul 23, 2008 08:49 PM Permalink
Good suggestion on its face. But if you think really about, our MPs will create a party for each one so that they can sell themselves.
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by Kanwaljit Sodhi on Jul 23, 2008 09:40 PM Permalink
So you intend to say that keep on electing again and again till one party has the majority, If you look at manifesto of BJP is it against Nuclerar deal or in favour of Islamic nations as dubbed by the commies/BSP combine, also if there are three blocks equally distributed how do you feel that this may help, this would mean around 2 elections in a year, you may probably want it as you are in a foriegn country and paying taxes there but for ppllike me who pay 30% of hard earned salary as tax is that just for us. Thanks KS
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by Sachin Purohit on Jul 23, 2008 11:33 PM Permalink
Kanwaljit, the nuclear deal was in no one's manifesto. This government did not get mandate for/against the nuclear deal. Neither the BJP's manifesto, nor UPA's manifesto mentioned anything that resembled nuclear deal.
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by jagar singh on Jul 24, 2008 01:34 PM Permalink
that ignores the individual completely.if only party votes are counted,each party will have only one representative.what about contribution of intellectuals,social workers,lawyers and other civil society representatives.?
