It is good thing that the issue has got good publicity and has generated enough arguments, both for and against. The country was divided in 47 without any debate. Just executive action. The Kashmir issue to the UN was also without any debate. However, annexation of Hyderabad to the union was a proper executive action and the nation is grateful for it. The nuclear deal is an opportunity for the country to move away from the shakles of the left which has always worked against Indian interests, be in 1942, or in 62, or in matters of labour law reform or in presidential election of 2001-02. India needs all kinds of power/energy to industrialise, to create employment opportunities and to usher in real socialism as in USA; which is being emulated even by Russia and China. We can not progress without the help of West, and this is an opportunity. After all why our scientists could not harness Atomic energy to the extent China, France UK or Canada did having made the begining before China. Did the west prevent us. It is better to discard the bogey of swadeshi as has been done in case of DGTD. The economist PM means business and will surely bring prosperity thru the process of liberalisation and industrialisation.Those who oppose are obscurantists.
RE:The nuclear deal
by Gopal on Jul 14, 2008 10:36 PM Permalink
The important matter namely the N-deal is no more a subject for discussion in the political circles. Painful indeed. All these unethical and anti-national processes are for the sake of nuclear energy that may flow by 2020 if the projects maintain the time schedule which seldom happens here. The cost of energy will be Rs20/-per unit and if the decommissioning cost is also added it will be Rs40/- per unit. The share of nuclear energy is only 10% of the total installed capacity. The nuclear waste disposal is the biggest problem waiting. Economic liberalization and industrialization are good. But it should not be at the cost of sovereignty and independence. Let there be a N-deal between two sovereign states. Here we surrender our sovereignty by signing the deal. Here we allowed another country to legislate rules for us to follow. Is it for this that freedom fighters sacrificed their life? The whole of India endured the pains of the freedom struggle starting from 1857
RE:The nuclear deal
by Vinay Gupta on Jul 14, 2008 10:09 PM Permalink
Why US has not commissioned any nuclear energy plant in last 10 years. Why whole Europe except France is decommisioning their plant? These needs answer. Cyber coolies are making noise in favour of the deal. The Ex employee of world bank and IMF are hell bent to see that deal is through. They are use all means , be it journalist, diplomats, scientists to prove that deal will do wonder.
This all lie. Deal will make us prone to blackmailing by uranium nations
who says that liberlisation and industrialisation is bad. But it has to be done in a manner where fruit of evelopment reaches every one. may not be equally but atleast some part. The whole economic policy of our Economist PM have made poor poorer and divided the country even on economic line
RE:The nuclear deal
by Girish Rao on Jul 14, 2008 10:12 PM Permalink
because OIL was cheap all these days. Wait and watch while nuclear power once again comes into prominence world wide
RE:The nuclear deal
by ASHOK on Jul 14, 2008 10:27 PM Permalink
Rao >. I agree, we need to broad base our energy resources. Be it Solar / Wind / Hydro / or Nuclear. All are needed and we need allround development. Reprocessing / enriching used Uranium is the answer to nuclear Waste disposal and that is what India is doing. Indian scientists have perfect plan in place. Unfortunately people on the forum have very little idea and they start commenting based on ONE TRACK approach.
RE:The nuclear deal
by Vinay Gupta on Jul 14, 2008 10:35 PM Permalink
Ashok, I may not have big idea but if I remember correctly, enriching uranium is not allowed as per international Law. The whole objection for nuclear programe of Iran is this only. Enriched uranium is used for milettary purpose and India cannot enrich uranium supplied by US and its allies. All the plants will be under agengy suppervision. Plsae correct me if I am wrong
RE:The nuclear deal
by Vinay Gupta on Jul 14, 2008 10:20 PM Permalink
Girish, it will never. It is hazardeous. Nuclear waste management is very costly. US dumps its waste in Africa. But where will we dump it? Will Gandhi or Buddha permit us to dump it Bangladesh!
Europe is decommissioning its plans. Why? Why US has no plan to install more Plants. When India will et the fruits if it decide to install a Plant. All these need answer. Supporter of deal are making noise and not allowing any body to speak.
This is no democracy. This a typical congress way. They cannot tolerate opposition
RE:The nuclear deal
by prasad safal on Jul 14, 2008 11:09 PM Permalink
Hey dumb ass Vinay, you are giving all false information. US is not dumping its waste in Africa. Who told you that? Karat?
RE:RE:The nuclear deal
by Vinay Gupta on Jul 14, 2008 10:21 PM Permalink
Girish, it will never. It is hazardeous. Nuclear waste management is very costly. US dumps its waste in Africa. But where will we dump it? Will Gandhi or Buddha permit us to dump it Bangladesh!
Europe is decommissioning its plans. Why? Why US has no plan to install more Plants. When India will et the fruits if it decide to install a Plant. All these need answer. Supporter of deal are making noise and not allowing any body to speak.
This is no democracy. This a typical congress way. They cannot tolerate opposition
RE:The nuclear deal
by Gopal on Jul 14, 2008 10:38 PM Permalink
The important matter namely the N-deal is no more a subject for discussion in the political circles. Painful indeed. All these unethical and anti-national processes are for the sake of nuclear energy that may flow by 2020 if the projects maintain the time schedule which seldom happens here. The cost of energy will be Rs20/-per unit and if the decommissioning cost is also added it will be Rs40/- per unit. The share of nuclear energy is only 10% of the total installed capacity. The nuclear waste disposal is the biggest problem waiting. Economic liberalization and industrialization are good. But it should not be at the cost of sovereignty and independence. Let there be a N-deal between two sovereign states. Here we surrender our sovereignty by signing the deal. Here we allowed another country to legislate rules for us to follow. Is it for this that freedom fighters sacrificed their life? The whole India endured the pains of the freedom struggle.
RE:The nuclear deal
by Suraj Singh on Jul 14, 2008 11:03 PM Permalink
Myth #11: India needs more nuclear power to assure its energy future.
Fact: Nuclear power has been virtually insignificant in India’s energy mix in the past, and will be no more important in the future. India has been generating electricity with nuclear reactors for more than 40 years. Yet, reactors supply only 2% to 3% of its electricity today. India has not built more reactors because they have not turned out to be as safe, or as clean, or – most important – as economical as originally thought. Even if India were to achieve a 50% increase in nuclear power generation (which is unlikely) such a step would only increase India’s overall electricity output by one percent at most, and would only increase India’s overall energy output by a fraction of one percent. That is not a significant increase in the energy available to India and would not decrease India’s demand for oil and gas.
