That's the joke of the year! Khukri made of hard metal softens like toilet paper and gets sucked inot the shit reservoir...what a story and what a test (narco-analysis)!
RE:Flushing Khukri down the toilet??
by bhaskara c on Jul 11, 2008 06:01 PM Permalink
All the above: BEWARE! Do not try to flush Khukri in your toilet! It will be jammed, then you may have to go to public toilet(HELL!) till it is repaired.
RE:Flushing Khukri down the toilet??
by Himani Panwar on Jul 10, 2008 09:10 PM Permalink
The khukri being flushed has been claimed by two people who were questioned..not something CBI thought of itself...how it was done, if it was..is being examined...had the investigating aganecies been like you..they would have laughed off everything and not take any painstaking efforts....its a subject of experts... if you could appreciate all this before laughing over them.
RE:Flushing Khukri down the toilet??
by Aparna Mehrotra on Jul 10, 2008 09:18 PM Permalink
Try flushing your 6 inch kitchen knife down the toilet.....you will not succeed ....just try and then come back in this forum...
RE:Flushing Khukri down the toilet??
by sweeto t on Jul 10, 2008 09:45 PM Permalink
Think Himani Panwar has never seen the kitchen in her life forget about knife. Her husband would be doing all the kitchen work. Why to waste time with her. I think Himani would be either somebody of the CBI or may be someone close to talwar or may be family.
RE:Flushing Khukri down the toilet??
by Himani Panwar on Jul 10, 2008 09:51 PM Permalink
did you try doing that..what if you succeed...will you change your opinion :) ?
OK anyways...with a normal toilet flush maybe no... but with an extra pressure of buckets full of water applied with thrust..maybe something is possible..atleast you can experiment..and let us know the results..(as far as my experimenting with kitchen knife..i dont need to do all this...i believe in following the proceedings of investgations
Also is it possible by any chance that it was not flushed through the commode but through the drainage next to the toilet...there is a metal plate with holes which connects the bathroom drainage......I am not saying this is the way it was done....but there are different possibilities..and people are trying to explore them...toiling hard to find out based on a simple confession instead of laughing over it......and you are just ridiculing and saying everything is false... what a difference in attitude!
RE:Flushing Khukri down the toilet??
by sweeto t on Jul 10, 2008 10:09 PM Permalink
I tried doing that himani and i didn't suceed in doing so. Now i suggest you do the same and then find out whether it is really going down. And yes, here the question is of kitchen knife. And kukhri is bigger in size than the knife.
Try and try find out for yourself. IF extra pressure of buckets full of water applied with thrust that noice also didn't made Talwar to wake up and see nor even with Mrs. Talwar?? Ask yourself this question. In a country like India lots of proceedings of investigations are botched up. This even a small kids also knows.
Now i am seeing you in the third paragraph a better investigating officer than the CBI. giving reasons and explanations???? and accuse those people who does that trying to analyse Talwars involvement? How could you do that questioning the integrity of others and u ur self is doing the same thing in another way.
RE:Flushing Khukri down the toilet??
by MADAN KAPOOR on Jul 10, 2008 10:05 PM Permalink
It is not the work of experts but is a matter of common sense that perhaps you lack. Try flush out Khukari from flush. Try it my friend. Try it. Try it. Try it.
RE:Flushing Khukri down the toilet??
by Himani Panwar on Jul 10, 2008 10:15 PM Permalink
Madan Had it been left to your common sense judgments would have been passed even before investigations...
If you think properly....I am talking about possibilities , and not conclusively about flushing the thing.... what would you do if you were the investigating officer?..Would you simply laugh at the two men who are saying the same thing in their narco tests... discard it as rubbish and hang talwar for having a relation with some lady....no evidence against him..so what? Or would you take the findings seriously and try to find out things... Thats what I am saying that its wiser to investigate rather discarding a finding as rubbish in a narco test confession
RE:RE:Flushing Khukri down the toilet??
by Himani Panwar on Jul 10, 2008 10:24 PM Permalink
Sweeto Sweeto I am sure you tried and threw your kitchen knife.... now try new things....go and dig the drainage lines of jal vihar... reach out the source and find out which exactly was the hole from where the weapon was flushed out and how.
Can you do this ?...No...you can simply base your conclusions on trying experiments with your kitnhen knife...if it doesnt go....that means Talwars are the murderers
Before accusing them...what exactly are your grounds?...what have they done apart from sleeping that night and not hearing noises... i don't hear loud television noises when my room a/c is on and door is closed..while my friends hear their neighbours tallking even through thick walls...its an individual thing... you can't go on accusing someone..when he has faced charges, bad mouthed media and people......big investigating aganecies...and still came out innocent ....but people like you accusing him just because he didnt hear noises!
I only intend to say that narco confessions need to be taken seriously and worked upon instead of being discarded as rubbish..do you have an arguement with that...or do you want the findings to be buried with no developments or investigations in that direction.
Your conclusion about my cooking, kitchen husband are as good as your conclusions on a murder case....knowing your level of understanding..i wud choose to smile away at your immaturity
RE:RE:Flushing Khukri down the toilet??
by sweeto t on Jul 10, 2008 10:35 PM Permalink
Well hold on my to immaturity and understanding or misunderstanding and smiling. My questions are this and based upon those questions i think i have the full right to question Talwar. First thing. Why did they allow Hemraj invite his friends at night ?? If i have a daughter, then i would definitly do not do those kinda stupid things. And i am sure you also will think twice.
Second question: Why the Post mortem reports have discrepencies??
Third: Why CBI is not puting Talwar under the Narco Test??
Fourth: Why the husband and wifes statement contradicts when cbi asked them repeatedly who saw the arushis body first??
Fifth: Why Talwar always used to lock Arushis room?? Tomorrow i cannot do that for my daughter and Himani i know even you cant do that. And if there is male servent u would be extra cautious. That i know but in that cautiousness they are allowing servents to drink and party?? that too at night???
Answer these questions to me, then i will consider to change my view points based up on the satisfaction of the answer.
RE:Flushing Khukri down the toilet??
by Himani Panwar on Jul 10, 2008 10:53 PM Permalink
Dear Sweeto.... to answer you... !) Dr. Talwar did not know about the party Hemraj had thrown...for obvious reasons..Hemraj called his friends after the family had slept...and in all the tests and interrogations conducted on him the presence of 3 more people in the house was unknown to him...
2) If you know the investigators have claimed that they cannot bank upon the post mortem report completely.... it was made when police deliberately chose to screw talwar..cbi and these new developments were not in picture when the post mortem took place, so who do you want to place the responsibility of post mortem report discrepancy....
3) Narco test is done after there is something to doubt.... Krishna was put through it after his absolute lies on lie detector test...and rajkumar after he came out in krishna's test and the t-shirt forensic test. Talwar has gone through a lot...but i am sure if they find an ounce of evidence against him, they will put him through it.Rest CBi knows better
4. Is that the only contradiction in their record..... not bad !...check the contradictions in Krishna's records and then you will know who should be doubted more
5. If you read the newss properly....then you'd know the door lock was such that aarushi could open the room from inside...so she was not 'locked in'..but outside people couldnt come in till the time she opened the door or else if the outside person didnt have the key......
And you must know through sheer commonsense that talwar didnt k
RE:Flushing Khukri down the toilet??
by sweeto t on Jul 10, 2008 11:02 PM Permalink
Who are you and how did you gained access to the contradictory report of krishnas when even media didn't have it forget of we people???
You can believe the police investigations are shoddy? and can place blame on them?? not the same with CBI??? why? are they not humans?? Think about the scarlett murder case ??? What is CBI doing there??
U want to believe police had done some shoddy job in the post mortem?? But can't believe that CBI also can do those things?? Considering the fate of the scarletts murder lying in the dust?? and infront of you people??
RE:Flushing Khukri down the toilet??
by Himani Panwar on Jul 10, 2008 11:28 PM Permalink
follow the news dear... all i know is from the articles...his lie detector tests showed him telling lies on several instants... the clothes he wore on that day went missing which raised suspicion towards him....(while clothes that Talwars were wearing that day were all intact and free from any uncanny stuff)....he had contradicting statements about his whereabouts on the night of murder
you can find all these in previous news articles.
NOIDA police screwed up...and lets agree to it..coming up with an instant story with no proofs means screwing the case.....
I feel the search and investigation going on this are of higher order, using modern techniques and have given some result....thats why i am supporting the investigators.... is it right to not let CBI handle any case whatever hard work it shows just because of some another case??? Not passing judgments..i commend it more than the noida police investigations...because the way they noida police had placed confident charges and circulated stories about a father...who is probably innocent...they didnt have a solid reason..but an imaginative story to back them....makes me full of contempt for them..
I have seen a guy committing suicide because he was falsely accused of murdering his wife... that is why i strongly feel about police that doesnt investigate properly and respect when an agency sincerely does its work...these are 'stories' for onlookers...but these investigations mean a lot to people who are going through all t
RE:RE:Flushing Khukri down the toilet??
by Geo on Jul 10, 2008 11:36 PM Permalink
I think Talwar and family have gigantic asses and hence have built gigantic toilets, where you can flush anything, even khukris.
Also Talwars must be taking heavy drugs and going to sleep, so that nothing even the sounds of a struggle, rape, murder, khukris being flushed etc. are not heard.
RE:Flushing Khukri down the toilet??
by Himani Panwar on Jul 11, 2008 01:36 AM Permalink
everyone is not a physicist..still people have lot of gyaan to give..think deeply....a khukhri may not be flushed mere force of water...but think logically ..how do things get flushed ..its a pressure and thrust generated by force of water that pushes them inside.... when the force is manual and muscular...its much more than the generated by the amount water in a commode..... normally a person would find it dirty to push things inside the commode using his arms strength...however,...a person who wants to drain his murder weapon..would not really care about the dirtiness...but might still push it / force it inside the hole using his arms strength........if the force applied is sufficient the instrument might not come back to float ...but go down the drain....
Its not impossible ....though has to be studied well ..and i am sure anyone out of people who post comments about casting premature judgments would ever think of doing such experiments......there are people who can take care of the mechanism of the process..
Lets allow the experts do their jobs and spare the family in trauma who might have some hope of getting out of a possibly wrong accusation
RE:Flushing Khukri down the toilet??
by sweeto t on Jul 10, 2008 10:22 PM Permalink
Himani, if they are suggesting the possbilities then why didn't they not gave the full story of how they found out that Talwar didn't hear the noice? And they didn't gave any explanation saying what made them to believble that??
How did they come to that conclusion that is not been explained but this flushing down the kukhri they are telling day in and day out? (which obviously is not believable)
