Oxford Dictionary has changed the meaning word 'Secular'.Earlier secular meant 'tolerant towards all religions'.Now 'secular' means 'Muslim appeasement'.This defination is valid for india only.
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by PKN on Jul 06, 2008 02:45 PM Permalink
Ahamed Bhai , History does not support your asumption . You want to know why read this :
1 : "The Muslims are howling against the Hindu Maha Sabha and its slogan of Hindudom and Hindu Raj. But who is responsible for this ? Hindu Maha Sabha and Hindu Raj are the inescapable nemesis which the Musalmans have brought upon themselves by having a Muslim League. It is action and counter-action. One gives rise to the other " 2. "If India and Pakistan had remained united in one State Hindus though independent would have been at the mercy of the Muslims. A merely independent India would not have been a free India from the point of view of the Hindus. It would have been a Government of one country by two nations and of these two the Muslims without question would have been the ruling race notwithstanding Hindu Mahasabha and Jana Sangh"
The person who wrote this was not what you would call a Khaki Chaddiwalla but DR B Ambedkar , the man that Jinnah once called " greatest fighter of Hindu Communalism" As far relaionship between the Hindus and Muslims are concerned please remember both sides must show a willingness to work together. If Hindu communalist blames Muslims and the Muslim communlaist blames Hindu we can argue will innocent lives would have been lost .
RE:Oxford had to change the meaning of 'Secular'
by shailendra lande on Jul 06, 2008 01:49 PM Permalink
do you remember what Israel did under such circumstances......they send send their commondos to Lisben in 1981 to free the hostages and Uganda during Idi Ameen's period to free the hostages.....National Interest is Most Important...and BJP freed terrorists like Zargar and Maulana Masood Azar...freed terrorists for Mufti's younger daughter (younger than Mehbooba Mufti)BJP supported this act when they were supporting V.P. Singh's government from outside..... wow what a nationalist party.....great and they are indirectly supporting Student Islamic Movement of India and Maoists movements by their slogans, by thier activities.... what a nationalist party.....just hiding their incapabilities for Civilian Nuclear Treaty with USA during their government's period by not supporting congress. Congress broght far better deal than what BJP was trying to get......what a nationalist party.....congress lost two of their leaders and many more in terrorists attack and BJP freed the terrorists (try to remember the example of Israel).... what a nationalist party....
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by PKN on Jul 06, 2008 02:15 PM Permalink
The decision to free the Terrorists was taken at an all party meeting which was also attended by Dr Manmohan Singh who as now, was then also, a 'sidekick' of the Madam who resides at 10 Janpath . Does that mean he was party the decision. Does that mean she was responsible for freeing Maulana Masood Azar. If not why do you blame the BJP for Mufti Mohd's daughter’s release! Nobody knows what the BJP negotiated and that includes the S. Lande! How can you be so sure that it was worse than the one that MMS is trying to sign? You want to know why India is not able to do what Israel did. Because there would be secular parties who would have claimed that killing terrorists was communal. Remember that Modi did to Sorabuddin what Israel does in the Gaza Strip- kill the enemy before he acts. Why did the Madam instead of calling him a brave hero call him "maut ke saudagar" You seem confused about who is supporting SIMI directly ( BJP may be directly ) . It is a man called Mulayam Singh Yadav who gave a confirmation to the S C that SIMI was secular NGO working for the upliftment of the masses . Why should the Yadav from UP concern you ... because he is being welcomed with great fanfare by 10 Janpath as a newest ally of the Congress party.
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by PKN on Jul 06, 2008 02:16 PM Permalink
The decision to free the Terrorists was taken at an all party meeting which was also attended by Dr Manmohan Singh who as now, was then also, a 'sidekick' of the Madam who resides at 10 Janpath . Does that mean he was party the decision. Does that mean she was responsible for freeing Maulana Masood Azar. If not why do you blame the BJP for Mufti Mohd's daughter’s release! Nobody knows what the BJP negotiated and that includes the S. Lande! How can you be so sure that it was worse than the one that MMS is trying to sign? You want to know why India is not able to do what Israel did. Because there would be secular parties who would have claimed that killing terrorists was communal. Remember that Modi did to Sorabuddin what Israel does in the Gaza Strip- kill the enemy before he acts. Why did the Madam instead of calling him a brave hero call him "maut ke saudagar" You seem confused about who is supporting SIMI directly ( BJP may be directly ) . It is a man called Mulayam Singh Yadav who gave a confirmation to the S C that SIMI was secular NGO working for the upliftment of the masses . Why should the Yadav from UP concern you ... because he is being welcomed with great fanfare by 10 Janpath as a newest ally of the Congress party.
RE:Oxford had to change the meaning of 'Secular'
by shailendra lande on Jul 06, 2008 02:29 PM Permalink
Visit the tribal areas of Vidarbha, Chattisgarh, Orissa, Madhya Pradesh, Bihar, Telangana, Jharkhand ...why maoists movement soreading its wings....After the Gujarat riots muslims formed Gujarat Revenge Group and SIMI becomes more active. Why the fundamantalists from both the religions and ideological party like Communists are benefiited......so called capaitalism (money lending, bidi business)still exists (majority of them supports BJP)and Maoism surviving... who is responsible....
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by PKN on Jul 06, 2008 03:00 PM Permalink
Maoism and Naxalitism did not start in Chattisgarh or Vidharba it started in interior AP after it wiped out of Kerala in 77 . All those the Naxalites targeted were Landlords , Land mafia, Government contractors and moneylenders who were all CONGRESS SUPPORTERS . Congress MLAs , Congress DCC Presidents etc were the first victims of Maoists As far as Gujarat is concerned you have presented a Jihadi veiwpoint to the issue. Modi did what your great hero Isreal would have done or are doing to the HAMAS. Make up your mind do you support Israel or do your want to justify SIMI . Only somebody stupid will try to do both !
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by Venkatesh on Jul 06, 2008 02:49 PM Permalink
And what happens to minority who are killed in Kasmir, Pakistan, Bangladesh, do they form revenge groups and if ever they form them who supports them. And if captilasim is to ended why doesnt Congress seeks reservation on basis of economic background instead of casteism, I m quite sure many wud be supporting that.
RE:Oxford had to change the meaning of 'Secular'
by shailendra lande on Jul 06, 2008 02:44 PM Permalink
do you remember the theatre incident in Moscow (hostages were held by Chechan rebels), Beslan school hostage drama, 1979 olympic games (Israel) and there are many examples like this. Government did not bent their knees before the terrorists. don't be so emotional.... life of entire population is more important than the life of 300. be patriotic.don't be darpok. Ranchoddas....hahahahaha
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by vanitha on Jul 06, 2008 01:36 PM Permalink
Christian appeasement too.
On Monday, June 30, 2008, the Chief Minister of Andhra Pradesh, Y S Rajasekhara Reddy (Congress party) announced the following measures for Christians:
Formation of Christian Minority Commission Subsidized travel to Holy Land (Jerusalem or Vatican) for 1000 Christians (similar to Haj subsidy of Muslims) Allocation of free land and homes to Christian pastors Reservation for Christians (Reservation for Muslims already approved by Supreme Court)
RE:RE:Oxford had to change the meaning of 'Secular'
by ahamed sharif on Jul 06, 2008 02:23 PM Permalink
Reported by our correspondent from Rumor Spreading Society. Ha Ha
