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The sad tale of present education
by ALOK DHOTEKAR on Jul 03, 2008 10:22 AM   Permalink | Hide replies

Whenever there is a yo yo of inflation, the discussion shifts to the reasons for inflation. In my opinion one of the major contributors for today inflation is costly education. Higher education fees means higher pay needs-so higher salaries by companies-so more expenses to the company-so higher sales price of its goods & so rising inflation.

The first reaction to this would be… so what ? its simple business. Herein something is getting ignored. Most private institutions in this country are run by Politicians. The higher yield in fees doesn’t really end up in the good of the institution but for the personal undeclared needs of the politicians. There has to be some better mechanism to allot these private institutions.

Most of you will agree that 90 % of people manning these institutions as Trustees, Office Bearers etc, if made to write entrance exam for their own institution will not qualify.

But yes the fact remains that the govt schools are performing badly, because the teachers in these schools carry the comfort of non dismissal for performance and don’t both to deliver the worth they are paid for. I have seen something funny these years… for year long the teachers don’t do great for their schools by contributing to upgrading teaching. And when its summer time, they go and entice the students with offering them school uniforms and free travel etc for them to take admission in their govt school.

Some drastic attention is required. Otherwise whil

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  RE:The sad tale of present education
by ashutosh gupta on Jul 03, 2008 10:47 AM   Permalink
well said, i would extend your statement a little bit more by saying that another cause of higher inflation is really expensive medical facilities. During 1980s era, the two basic things education and medication were comparetivily cheaper and honest services were provided. but alas those two things which are essential for the growth and development of the society are today the most expensive things at least for middle and poor class folks.

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by ALOK DHOTEKAR on Jul 04, 2008 11:22 AM   Permalink
Well the reason for escalation of cost of medical facilities too is due to rise in cost of medical education.... The students shell out a higher fee to take the medical degree and then squeeze the innocent patients to recover their investment



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  RE:The sad tale of present education
by ASHOK on Jul 03, 2008 10:39 AM   Permalink
You are wrong , In India education is highly subsidised.
4 years IIT B Tech will at most cost 5 Lach Rs . (Tution Hostel Books Personal expense such as PC or Lap top)
You send your kid to US, it will cost you 15 lach rs per year.

If your child is US citizen, even than it will cost Rs 6 lach per year. (Mind it IIT cost I am saying is per 4 year)

And if some one has 3 or 4 children ready for college education it is his/her problem. Not of GOI.

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by Entomologist on Jul 03, 2008 12:06 PM   Permalink
Ashok, why don't you compare the quality of life also?

You are a senseless fool.

Let us take US dollar and rupee value to compare the standards.

If USD is more than 40 times higher than INR, so is their quality of life and living standards.

By Indian standard, you need Rs.1.25 lakh per year for IIT B.tech.

By US standard, you need USD 15,000 per year. It is very much cheaper compared to Indian standard. Isn't it?

Don't try to convert USD to Indian Rupee and make a fool of yourself.

In India, most of the pvt edn institutions are in the hands of greedy politicians. So, we can't expect any regulations from govt. to regulate the fees and make it affordable to every one.

There are schools who demand donation in lakhs to get admission to LKG !

The question is who is going to protect the common Indians? GOK !

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by ALOK DHOTEKAR on Jul 03, 2008 01:38 PM   Permalink
Thats the point that you didnt understand... The benefit of IIT is taken by handful and after the subsidy that common Indian gives it goes to benefit the West not India...

So should the subsidy not be removed and kept at par with International levels... I am referring to education imparted in institutions managed by politicians... who although impart degrees... are not creating employbale lot...

The tragery remains that out 60 lakh graduates every year only 4 lakhs are employable directly...

The antithesis is that education that is subsidised does not serve the nation... and the other non subsidised serves the politician..

Be reminded eduction doesnt only mean education in IITs and IIMs... it is much beyond that



The point is that basic education should be imparted by committed individuals

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  RE:The sad tale of present education
by Ram Sharma on Jul 03, 2008 10:41 AM   Permalink
Education in English medium schools has become very costly.

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by Rahul Sharma on Jul 03, 2008 11:07 AM   Permalink
Rightly said Ashok.
Kids nowdays take Education loan, which again is not in even 5% burden in comparison to US/UK college going student debt.
College eduaction is highly subsidised, no doubt about it.
As far as even School education is concern it depends where you want / afford to put ur kid.
There are Govt School (Sarvodalayas/Novadayalas), Plus Kendriya Vidyalas and ArMy School plus we have this range of privaye school , its your affordability and call.
I dont know about other states but in delhi , even regular college education (Delhi University) is damn cheap plus you get subsidised bus pass.
Education has been a positive area (yes there may be 10000 flaws , but that an area of improvement).
What ever we are today , w eare thanks to our education system.


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