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Whats the use of getting separate state?
by strite on Jan 16, 2008 05:12 PM   Permalink | Hide replies

Whats the issue of telengana in AP. Is telenganait doesnt speak telugu? If so then as per SRC states were divided based on language only. It is also known only andra guys started this divisive politis.asking andhra from madras state. Now why these cry again on some ohter region within their state. This disintegration ideology is not good for country on the whole. People should realise this

Whats the use of getting separate state as long as we dont change their leaders!!!


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by Manikeshwar Thota on Jan 16, 2008 05:37 PM   Permalink
you also seemed to be educated illeterate..
Telangana was always a separate state.It was merged into andhra against the wishes of telangana ppl..

Telangana's language,culture,food habits,customs etc are all different from that of andhra..

So Telangana has to be separated

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by strite on Jan 16, 2008 05:49 PM   Permalink
Iam not well connected with AP but india knows
not many greats are in andhra as such.. except leaders like NTR who gave them some status in the country.

For my understanding -

1. Do telenganaits speak telugu
2. When does telengana existed before independence?
3. Do all the districts of other AP are well developed?
4. Hyderabad also part of telengana? if so how andhra leaders make it most developed than any other city in AP.


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by narayan on Jan 16, 2008 06:04 PM   Permalink
1)most telanganites speak telugu......hindi is spoken more than 10 states.....so u want each of these states 2 b made together into 1.....ie a state with up,bihar,rajasthan,mp,delhi,haryana,hp,uttarakhand,jharkhand,chattisgarh together?????
2)telangana was ruled by nizam b4 independence whereas andhra was part of madras prcidency
3)most districts in andhra are comparitively much much developed that rural telangana
4)hyderabad is part of telangana....only hyderabad is better developed....visit rural telangana and u will also join us in wanting a new state....condition is soo much horrible....its even worse than bihar....ppl even think nizam rule was better than current rulers

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by jai telangana on Jan 16, 2008 10:13 PM   Permalink
visit rural telangana are u crazy or wat did u ever visited that agency areas and rayalaseema areas.Dont talk rubbish telangana is developed only when it is united with other two.If it is separated all the hungry politicans will eat the finance of the state like wild foxes.Think before u post bhai.

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by strite on Jan 16, 2008 06:28 PM   Permalink
1) You seem to be confused. People in the states you referred also speak hindi apart from their native language. Like in south some can speak,write and read hindi.
2) ok this was nizams state. As per you in those days all telenganas were so developed but then there was 'suppression' goin on that Ramanujan movement started for liberation. So effectively telengana was never a fully prosperous place like any part of india.
Next, we all know nizams were pro PAK and to think telengana was better in their rule doesnt augur well for your own state besides bein an indian citizen.

My contention is if no devp is done in telengana till now, what those MPs/MLAs were doing. Also see what happend to the latest new states like chattisgarh, jharkhand, uttaranchal etc where there is no difference to the life of aam admi. Because same kinda leaders rule them even today. We know chattisgarh is naxal state similar to telengana would be tomm. Realise the need to have a strong growth oriented rule first and then noone raises

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by strite on Jan 16, 2008 06:26 PM   Permalink
1) You seem to be confused. People in the states you referred also speak hindi apart from their native language. Like in south some can speak,write and read hindi.
2) ok this was nizams state. As per you in those days all telenganas were so developed but then there was 'suppression' goin on that Ramanujan movement started for liberation. So effectively telengana was never a fully prosperous place like any part of india.
Next, we all know nizams were pro PAK and to think telengana was better in their rule doesnt augur well for your own state besides bein an indian citizen.

My contention is if no devp is done in telengana till now, what those MPs/MLAs were doing. Also see what happend to the latest new states like chattisgarh, jharkhand, uttaranchal etc where there is no difference to the life of aam admi. Because same kinda leaders rule them even today. We know chattisgarh is naxal state similar to telengana would be tomm. Realise the need to have a strong growth oriented rule first and then noone raises


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by Manikeshwar Thota on Jan 16, 2008 06:00 PM   Permalink
Hyderabad(telangana ) state was an independent state from 1948 to 1956..Hyderabad was the richest state when it was merged into andhra..Telangana ppl were hell bent on clubbing the state with andhra (which didn't even have a city to name as a capital also).But the shrewd politicians from andhra made false promised and they could influence the centre for the merger..

Even while the merging took place,Nehru announced that,ppl of telangana can separate as soon as there's some indifferenct..

Coming to the language,telangana telugu has many urdu words and the slang is totally different from the andhra telugu(its like Haryanvi and bihari)..

other districts(apart from telangana ) are very well developed with the funds from telangana state(hyderabad city in particular)..

Hyderabad was the richest and most developed city before the merger,now its 5th in the list..

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by Rupakshi on Jan 16, 2008 09:21 PM   Permalink
Mr. Strite,
What happened post independence is to eliminate the history of each land. Andhra had great leaders since time immemorial. There were only 3-4 languages on the currency of India during British era-Telugu was one of them. On some coins there were only two languages, English and Telugu. Innumerable number of Telugus sacrificed for Freedom. Jaya Pattabhi was congress president. Even after the caste based ticket giving from 1950 on wards, Three of the Indian presidents were Telugu. One of the Prime Ministers was Telugu. The chief minister who presided over the merging of Telengana, knew that he was going to lose his job-but he sacrificed for the greater good of the state and reduce the influence of Rajakars connected to Pak agitating for merger or independence like they are doing in Kahsmir at that time. If he did not sacrifice then, Telengana would have been another Kashmir. In general Indians are not only less knowledgeble of their country's history but also are missing gratitude. If one lists the freedom fighters and scholars from Andra, the list is huge. NTR was just a popular actor, not scholar or freedom fighter. Naidu put Andra on world map. If we can see beyond our own caste and not suppress others because they are not our caste, we will find great people in every state.

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by khudabaksh on Jan 16, 2008 06:38 PM   Permalink
KCR IS MAHATMA, MERA DIL KA GANA TELANGANA...WHAT BRITISHERS DID TO INDIA, ANDHRA PEOPLE DID SAME TO TELANGANA. LOOTED, LOOTED , EXPLOITED.

JAI KCR
JAI TELANAGANA


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by Manikeshwar Thota on Jan 16, 2008 07:06 PM   Permalink
JAYA JAYAHE TELANGANA JANANI JAYA KETANAM,MUKKOTI GONTUKALU OKKATAINA CHETANAM

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by jai telangana on Jan 16, 2008 10:15 PM   Permalink
kutha muyyi.yelli paduko pora pichinaaa

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by Rupakshi on Jan 16, 2008 11:18 PM   Permalink
Khudabaksh,
We are Indians. States are made for administrative convenience. There was nothing in Telangana for Andhras to loot. It has Hyderabad which is convenient location that Mohamad been Tuglak wanted to make it the capital of India. If the division of Andra is good for administration due to increased population, it is ok. No one who divides the people is Mahatma from any angle. Telangana would not have exited if Patel's army did not march, or even if Gandhi was alive-it would have been south Pakistan. Both the Andras and Telangans speak telugu in different dialect and there is absolutely no need to split the state.

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by narayan on Jan 16, 2008 05:34 PM   Permalink
telangana issue is very simple......it was a separate state to b formed in 1956 itself(after first SRC)...but at that time we didin't have a powerful leader like KCR.....so andhra and rayalseema people colonised telangana and thereby that part of andhra bcom poorest in entire south india whereas andhra ppl bcom very prosperous and powerful.....in 1970 violent telangana statehood movement happened and telanagana praja samiti won 10 of the 14 lok sabha seats present then.....but authoritarian rule of indira gandhi prevented formation of telangana....but now telangana wave is engulfing the region and erstwhile unification parties like tdp of CBN are changing their stand now....devender goud(former home min)and leading leader of tdp from telangana himself told that he supported telangana statehood.....in congress cwc member venkatswamy(former union cabinet min)also told that he wil resign from congress if statehood is not given.....bjp already supports telangana and so is mayawati's bsp.....only communists who r all set 2 b extinct in telangana state is against giving statehood for telangana....but still congress wil most probably give new statehood for telangana bcoz else they will not even win a single state from this vast region and telangana will bcome another UP or bihar for congress...in last election cong manifesto promised new telangana state but they r now changing their stand...even cong mp's has said that they will resign from party if statehood is not given

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