RE:@Sudhir Dixit
by Sudhir Dixit on Jan 05, 2008 11:43 AM Permalink
dont be so rigid , religious books are there to be changed. who will accept in todays world that earth is a fixed abode?
RE:RE:@Sudhir Dixit
by Arif on Jan 05, 2008 11:47 AM Permalink
Can you tell me where it is mentioned in the Quran that Earth is fixed? Infact the Quran says that the universe is constantly expanding...
RE:RE:@Sudhir Dixit
by Arif on Jan 05, 2008 12:01 PM Permalink
where? Mountains are like pegs...it says... do you know what will happen with a mountain range like himalayas develop a fault line? :-)
RE:@Sudhir Dixit
by Sudhir Dixit on Jan 05, 2008 11:39 AM Permalink
i dont say that ur faith in God should be diminshed,it should be maximum at all the times. but change according to time and forgive me for saying but muhammad was not a human at all leave alone perfect human(dont claim that he is prophet) for ur information it is written in Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64 that ayesha was 6 six years old. atleast be true to urself.
RE:@Sudhir Dixit
by Arif on Jan 05, 2008 11:46 AM Permalink
Dear brother. There are many versions of the hadits and scholars have argued over it for a long time. If you read www26.brinkster.com/sdolshah1/ayage.htm you can find the debate between islamic scholars itself. :-) The hadits also say that an ink of an scholar is holier than the blood of the martyr. :-) There are many hadiths that talk about love and affection between humanity. How come you never come across them ?
RE:RE:@Sudhir Dixit
by Sudhir Dixit on Jan 05, 2008 11:49 AM Permalink
now u r taking help of websites! shall i quote something from websites,i believe u might be aware of the fact that world over there are more sites that are exposing kuran truth. have a look at them also.
RE:RE:RE:@Sudhir Dixit
by Arif on Jan 05, 2008 12:00 PM Permalink
No im not talking about wesites. Instead of giving you references here. I gave you that reference. And its not a hate site :-)
RE:@Sudhir Dixit
by Dharmazi Sundar Shete on Jan 05, 2008 11:52 AM Permalink
how much old she was, when brahma raped his own daughter...? what was the age of that baby elephant when shiva chopped his head...?
RE:RE:@Sudhir Dixit
by Sudhir Dixit on Jan 05, 2008 12:09 PM Permalink
are dost i m not asking anything but i m telling. u r asking about brahma (although for me he is ur so called abraham,by replacing one a) and elephants. i tell u about a muslim who not only married his teenage daughter but also made her pregnant , obviously he was following muhammad. do u know the age of animals who u kill during bakrid in the same way u kill humans? i thought islam to be a religion but after seeing the video of that 11 year afghan boy killing a persons neck i can only think that its a cult
RE:@Sudhir Dixit
by Arif on Jan 05, 2008 12:11 PM Permalink
God has given us the power to hate or love. You are free to chose hatred over love. All the best :-)
RE:@Sudhir Dixit
by Rash on Jan 05, 2008 11:51 AM Permalink
The question of Ayesha%u2019s age at the time of her marriage to the Prophet (peace be upon him) troubles many Non Muslims, particularly in our present time when the onslaught against Islam stops at nothing. Many are those who try to attack Islam through attacking the Prophet. Yet they cannot find any justification for such attack, so they look at seemingly weak points, like his marriage to Ayesha. She was 6 or 9 at the time of marriage but Indeed the evidence congregates towards the view that she was at least 18, and perhaps 20 or over at the time of her marriage.
RE:@Sudhir Dixit
by Sudhir Dixit on Jan 05, 2008 01:12 PM Permalink
so much time and so much confusion to come to a conclusion. can i help u to tell other sources to conclude correct age of aisha.
RE:RE:RE:@Sudhir Dixit
by Sudhir Dixit on Jan 05, 2008 11:58 AM Permalink
my dear friend everything is always opposed at weak and bad points. who told u that there is anything strong and good is ever attacked. i m just proposing u to remove those bad things and be a better human. dont remain in a cage mugging up whatever is told to u.
RE:@Sudhir Dixit
by Rash on Jan 05, 2008 12:04 PM Permalink
Is there anything wrong in islam to change according to the time. Well dont forget that every religion has some bad elements so dont take the examples of those and just defame for those weak points.
RE:RE:@Sudhir Dixit
by Sudhir Dixit on Jan 05, 2008 12:15 PM Permalink
whether i need to tell u this? leave ur jehad which has become a danger to humanity. if u want to do jehad do it against so called jehadis. try to accept the fact that god is one,finding him is possible through different ways. if hindu wants to get him through idols/nirakar then its his wish,if muslims want to achieve him through allah then its his wish,so be any other person!
RE:@Sudhir Dixit
by Rash on Jan 05, 2008 12:32 PM Permalink
Let me make you one thing clear that.. Those who are killing innocents on the name of jihad is not at all true jihad. Jihad does not only mean to fight against the enemy. According to the Qur%u2019an, Jihad is to be implemented in many life aspects and on many levels. However, from among what Jihad urges to, fighting is the only action Muslims apply. Therefore, fighting has been correlated with Jihad, an issue that disturbed and alarmed non-Muslims, to the extent that they themselves made use of this misconception in the war they waged to distort the image of Islam. Moreover, they accused Islam of being a religion that incites people to kill. But the Qur%u2019an and the Prophetic Tradition prove how unfair such false accusations are.
RE:RE:@Sudhir Dixit
by Sudhir Dixit on Jan 05, 2008 12:41 PM Permalink
go and tell this to all the jehadis. has any muslim ever opposed any of the fatwa. i request u and all the muslims to just once denunce jehadis once on TV or in newspapers openly. i m sorry to tell u but its the only truth today that jehad means suicide bombers,terrorism,killing innocents and much more like this.
RE:@Sudhir Dixit
by Sudhir Dixit on Jan 05, 2008 12:33 PM Permalink
Now let it put words of a person whom muslims often quote ie George Bernard Shaw : Islam is the best religion and muslims are the worst followers. Reality is: Islam is the worst cult (not a religion) and muslims are best followers (practicing exactly as told).
RE:@Sudhir Dixit
by Sudhir Dixit on Jan 05, 2008 11:47 AM Permalink
now u say that sahih bukhari is not correct. why this is so that anything that u dont find suitable to u is not truth? come out of ur shell? see the world,change urself. being a brahmin myself i have married a so called SC. i m changing my country starting from myself. why u dont try?
RE:RE:@Sudhir Dixit
by Arif on Jan 05, 2008 11:48 AM Permalink
There is no brahmin and SC in Islam. This change was brot about 1400 years ago :-). Its good you are walking on the path of Islam. May Allah bless you for that.
RE:RE:RE:RE:@Sudhir Dixit
by Arif on Jan 05, 2008 12:02 PM Permalink
can you tell me where in the Quran is mentioned about these so called sects of Islam?
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:@Sudhir Dixit
by Sudhir Dixit on Jan 05, 2008 12:18 PM Permalink
then why do u fight amongst u? this means u r not following even kuran!
RE:RE:RE:@Sudhir Dixit
by Sudhir Dixit on Jan 05, 2008 11:54 AM Permalink
atleast indians are coming out of shells of castes and there were always some guys who opposed bad things in indian religions but if u criticize anything bad in islam then fatwa-e-maut is ready for u!
RE:@Sudhir Dixit
by PKN on Jan 05, 2008 12:02 PM Permalink
Disagree totally. In what you and I call the universe everything is changing. Change is progress and being static is death. Stagnant water is filthy , flowing water is clean. It is the cardinal principles that is the hallmark of a religion. As long as one does not question the cardinal principles and reinterprets others nothing is wrong. The Catholic Church beleived for over 1000 years that the earth was flat. Does the fact that it now accepts that the earth is round an insult to the Bible ? The Hindu texts forbade Hindus from crossing the sea. Does Hindus crossing the seas insult Hindu religious texts? The state of being Changeless is the state of being dead!
