RE:Stop vomiting your ignorance of Islam
by ZH on Feb 22, 2008 09:44 PM Permalink
My dear Brother "Secret". Its good that you knwo the Quran. Please make a note of these things when you qoute from Quran. Read or Place the complete Verse and not the parts of verses. The Compelte verse is this: Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them." 8:12
Now YOu can undesrstand it better. Allah said this to the angles. This was not instruction to Muslims at the Venue. It was Venue of Battle of Badr where 319 Muslims were fighting 1000 strong enemy's army. 319 people even did'nt had proper amunation with them. Allah Sent 1000 Angels for help(Verse 8:09) . The verse you qouted was what Allah said to the Angles.
So Read the Verses before and After the qouted verse. Then Come to Conclusion. Wish you good luck
RE:RE:Stop vomiting your ignorance of Islam
by Prabhu on Feb 23, 2008 12:16 AM Permalink
Pls tell me what s that gift of 72 virgins. Is heaven full of flesh pleasure? Pls reply abt Jihad as well. Will you accept death when killed by jihadis?
RE:Stop vomiting your ignorance of Islam
by salim on Feb 22, 2008 07:44 PM Permalink
In the battelfield when Muslims are fighting against a treachourous enemey , what kind of a revelation should come from GOD? Are you expecting a verse like Kiss the unbelivers..Hug them...bow before them..express your love... If you cite a verse outof context this is what it will lead you.. For example, without context all Muslims hould have killed the rest of the unbelivers that day itself or they themselves should have got killed when doing so..is in it. the fact this doesnt happen itself tells you, you are gravely wrong
RE:RE:Stop vomiting your ignorance of Islam
by secret on Feb 22, 2008 07:47 PM Permalink
firstly Quran was NOT revealed to Prophet in a war. Assuming you are right, it applies only to war-time. Today mis-guided muslims like Osama are waging war to justify a diktat..! this is the logical fallacy here....
infact muslims did precisely that...why does Quran talk about nijas..??
assume i'm quoting out of contxt...today growing number of muslims are applying this out of contxt anwaging a holy war...!!!!
RE:RE:RE:Stop vomiting your ignorance of Islam
by salim on Feb 22, 2008 07:50 PM Permalink
The gangs that you are talkimg about are minuscle minority of 1.3 billion muslims.. Ok , now ask those use these versers to further their radical idead not 1.3 billion muslims
RE:RE:RE:RE:Stop vomiting your ignorance of Islam
by secret on Feb 22, 2008 07:55 PM Permalink
but just imagine NOT a whimper of protest from the remaining Majority of 1.3 billion muslims and the minorty has been on a rampage...
this is becasue God-fearing, Quran abiding muslims, good muslims at some level are influenced to think it is as per God's decree. Pls understand brother, I can talk to the Minority only through you...!!
I have been a fundamentalist too and the shift to moderation is both painful and difficult. but it has to be done...
RE:RE:RE:RE:Stop vomiting your ignorance of Islam
by royce cheereth on Feb 22, 2008 08:29 PM Permalink
Fools stop fighting in the name of religion. We all have forgotten the basic concept of humanity. Respect every religion and be dedicated to your own but don't compare ! Drill that into you heads, morons !
RE:RE:RE:RE:Stop vomiting your ignorance of Islam
by secret on Feb 22, 2008 08:33 PM Permalink
Royce... you idiot...who is fighting here..?? we are having a constructive discusion here. what is the basic concept of humanity...which religions are being compared...have escaped a mental hospital or what