RE:Pakistan Needs Revolution...Not Elections
by shanehind on Feb 19, 2008 02:44 PM Permalink
Wahaj, you are a True Muslim, you are born and Boughtup here, you breath this air, bugger for you Pakistan people are your Brothers, unfortunately India is a Breeding Ground for thugs like you Muslims.Buggers why dont you go away from here, surprisingly you converts by force or sword feel the pakistanis are your brothers and they feel you are the second rated muslims, are you not ashamed of yourself? You bloody Indian muslims have this cast system in yourself dont talk nonsence.
RE:Pakistan Needs Revolution...Not Elections
by YLA on Feb 19, 2008 02:50 PM Permalink
U have a limit and so ur brain we consider this world is made of Allah so every human living is son of Adam no doubt may be by religion u r a hindu and i am a muslim that is the difference. But who said muslims are supporting pak tell me it is u r tought as u people have small minds and always thinks that indian muslims support pak for what tell me because they are msulims why not saudi or indenosia or any ismalic country what about afghanstain, or iraq why the hell he is supporting only pak tell me please remove this from u r heads we muslims support the land than any one else not jsut by talking but by ever means. Ofcourse we have sampthy over all muslims who suffer like every one has.
RE:Pakistan Needs Revolution...Not Elections
by Sebastian Cherukanam on Feb 19, 2008 02:55 PM Permalink
...(Continue) ALL EXISTING RELIGIONS SHOULD BE MADE IRRELEVANT. WE NEED A NEW RELIGION THAT IS ACCEPTABLE TO AND CAN BE EASILY PRACTISED BY ALL. THERE IS NO HOLY BOOK OR WRITTEN DOCUMENT FOR THIS NEW RELIGION. ENJOY LIFE. THAT IS WHAT THE NEW RELIGION SAYS. WE HAVE NO NEED TO DO ANY CRIME IN LIFE TO ENJOY LIFE. BE RIGHTEOUS. THE GOVERNMENT WILL ASSURE ENJOYMENT AND HAPPINESS TO US. SINCE THE COMING GENERATIONS HAVE NOT DONE ANYTHING THAT IS UNRIGHTEOUS, GOVERNMENT HAS THE RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE ALSO ENJOYING LIFE ONCE THEY ARE HERE AND THEREFORE, STEPS SHOULD BE TAKEN TO ENSURE THAT THE EARTH, ITS SURROUNDINGS INCLUDING THE CLIMATE AND ALL WILL NOT BE DISTURBED DUE TO OUR ACTIONS. LET THE COMING GENERATIONS ENJOY AND PRAISE US BECAUSE OF OUR WISE AND FARSIGHTED DECISIONS AND ACTIONS. ALSO LET US REJOICE BY THINKING ABOUT THE AMENDMENTS THE NEW GENERATIONS WILL MAKE ON THIS NEW RELIGION. THEY MAY EVEN IGNORE RELIGION. THAT IS A MUST BECAUSE IN A PERFECT WORLD, BORDERS WILL BE IRRELEVANT, RELIGION AND EVEN GOVERNMENT WILL HAVE NO ROLES TO PLAY INSTEAD PEOPLE WILL HAVE ENOUGH WISDOM TO GOVERN THEMSELVES AND THEREFORE, THEY WILL BE COMPLETELY FREE AND HAPPINESS WILL BE THE MAXIMUM.
RE:Pakistan Needs Revolution...Not Elections
by Truth on Feb 19, 2008 03:44 PM Permalink
THe simple ans to your queries is embrace Hinduism... It says all religions are same and equal....that is why there are 36 cr. god and godesses exist togeter without conflicts. And there is no interference in science and personal thinking.
RE:RE:Pakistan Needs Revolution...Not Elections
by Krishanu Majumdar on Feb 19, 2008 04:46 PM Permalink
I think best choice is do what ever you feel like without breaking the law - thats it
RE:RE:Pakistan Needs Revolution...Not Elections
by Sebastian Cherukanam on Feb 19, 2008 02:53 PM Permalink
Secularism and Religious Tolerance are sweet terms to hear but in reality these are in no way the roads to peace in this religious filled world. These are temporary adjustments. If a person who believes in a particular religion says that he is religiously tolerant, I say, either he is not a true believer or he is a liar. If he is a true believer, instead of being religiously tolerant, he will preach what he knows about his religion and salvation to the other believers so that they will also be the chosen ones. I will explain this in a different way. If what Christian religion says is correct, all those who believe in other religions are fools. If what Islam says is correct, all those who believe in all other religions are fools. If it goes like this, I can conclude that all believers are fools! But I do not want to say that because this is how we were taught or mislead. The present world does not require such teachings. Accept that we do not know what is after death and the mysteries of the universe. Science tries to give answers to such questions. But still there are questions unanswered. We must accept our ignorance. Existing religions are the products of that ignorance. Once we accept it, we are free and therefore, ...(Continue)
RE:Pakistan Needs Revolution...Not Elections
by Surya Prakash T on Feb 19, 2008 02:24 PM Permalink
Are u the brother of a pakistani or an Indian. Please be clear. u cant be on both sides. if u consider all muslims are ur brothers, please leave india which is a secular country and go to some islamic country. For us indians, all indians are brothers.
RE:RE:RE:Pakistan Needs Revolution...Not Elections
by Krishanu Majumdar on Feb 19, 2008 04:16 PM Permalink
I think you need to read the Qur%u2019an. One of the teachings is that even if a person of another religion prays in there holy place - then a true Muslim is supposed to let that person have a chance first. It is a very nice book and I think you should give it a reading as it will a pleasure for you. By the way in Qur%u2019an a disbeliever is a person who does not believe in god and not a person who does not believe in Islam.
Requesting you not to shout on me on the basis of religion as you will be spitting may be on your own self as I am a Hindu Brahmin
RE:Pakistan Needs Revolution...Not Elections
by YLA on Feb 19, 2008 02:38 PM Permalink
Wah what a thinking u people need to know the history of islam frist we never had kings like evry daynasty or kigdom had instead we had caliphs do u know the meaning of it please find that first so please don't talk if u don't anything about one religion the caliphs were elected by the people for his good deeds, his genoristy, his ability to rule and Etc., so please take back u r words and never say this again.
RE:Pakistan Needs Revolution...Not Elections
by deep on Feb 19, 2008 02:01 PM Permalink
dont compare india and pakistan. we are not an islamic country governed by archaic and obsolete rules!!
RE:Pakistan Needs Revolution...Not Elections
by Wahaj Faridy on Feb 19, 2008 02:04 PM Permalink
I guess you mean they don't have reservation as means of atonment of persecuting weaker sections as untouchables !! ...yep, we are far too moralistic !!
RE:Pakistan Needs Revolution...Not Elections
by deep on Feb 19, 2008 02:12 PM Permalink
I understand your frustration if you are not able to cite any hindu fallacy in recent times. That is because we have evolved, matured and improved. Your brethren are going back in time as we speak, trying to keep the relevance of something that was right 3000 years ago...
RE:Pakistan Needs Revolution...Not Elections
by Koduvayur on Feb 19, 2008 02:17 PM Permalink
very true, like it is said truth is always bitter. Some people will never want to change, they only want to blame others for all their mistakes.
RE:Pakistan Needs Revolution...Not Elections
by Aneesh on Feb 19, 2008 02:07 PM Permalink
Look at the situation of minorities in Pakistan especially Hindus who are deprived jobs in Military.
In India can you show any muslim who suffered discrimination.
RE:Pakistan Needs Revolution...Not Elections
by Wahaj Faridy on Feb 19, 2008 02:10 PM Permalink
No ...because I can not show anything to a BLIND person.
RE:Pakistan Needs Revolution...Not Elections
by Aneesh on Feb 19, 2008 02:20 PM Permalink
I can understand ur level of thinking. U must be educated in Madarsa where only hatred towarfds other religions taught.
Look at Jakir Hussain, Fakruddin Ali Ahmed, Addul Kalam (three presidents from Muslim Community) for President post. I reaaly doubt whether you have this muh political knowledge.
You better go and mingle with LET and get killed one day in Military hands. Finally you will reach HELL not Jannat where u will repent for your acts.
You need to llok at Abdul Kalam rather Moulana Masood Azhar (He is a baaaastard)
RE:Pakistan Needs Revolution...Not Elections
by bagsnsave on Feb 19, 2008 02:19 PM Permalink
Mr. The basic problem is with Muslim educational systems. A revolution is needed there. Most of the muslims receives or rather made to learn orthdox lessons by mullahs and later brainwashed with hatred. Financially better off muslims goes to better schools and they are very rathional in there thinking process. Better donot compare india and pakis. India is on of the most happening place in global economy. Where as paki economy depends on ARMY. they cannot get read off the same.
I should first say that I am an Indian who is from a Hindu family with income just above the basic requirement to live in Calcutta. I mean we can somehow manage to make both ends meat. I am just giving you an idea of my back ground. I am not being communal. Now to answer the above question.
I have seriously never met a Muslim who has ever visited a Madrasa. I have met who have never tried to study. Who went on to become Auto drivers and even household helps but not one of them in my knowledge has gone to a Madrasa.
I feel it is the initial brainwashing that is done in the training cams that guides the kids towards the Madrasa's where fascism is taught instead of religion. It is a failure of the system and people taking advantage of the adaptability of the young minds for personal profit.
Just take Bin Laden for example. Where is he - no one knows. His family is one of the richest families in Saudi Arabia. He has all the money and luxury in the world. He is enjoying his time and those stupid young kids are the ones suffering.
These guys enjoy the misinterpretation of the law. As for Pakistan let%u2019s hope they turn a new leaf and reach a strong socio economic situation as soon as possible as such terrorist activities are never welcome in any part of the world.
RE:RE:Pakistan Needs Revolution...Not Elections
by Arun Pilania on Feb 19, 2008 02:48 PM Permalink
Well ..problem is not in education system of anywhere. Problem lies in our hearts n minds. we can see here (blogs) well educated people are talking like Hindu and Muslim terrorists. Only thing is that we don' have AK-47 in our hands. What's wrong in being a human first or an Indian first.. In my view, all of us talk of hatred about any religion should be severely punished. For God share (Bhagwan ke liye/Allah ke vaste), look into our holy books they never ask for a bloodshed; they only teach us lessons of Peace/Aman/Shanti...
RE:Pakistan Needs Revolution...Not Elections
by suresh shelar on Feb 19, 2008 02:23 PM Permalink
no one can't save paki, its mush or nwz or nuclier to make 2nd afganisthan or irag.
