I am a tamilian and not a brahmin. There is no Dravidian religion here. People here are one of the most religious and cultured in India. The whole concept of dravidian civilization is a farce spread by DK and DMK. So I plead guys from other states not to judge us by the posts of these DK agents.
RE:Tamils are Hindus
by Devavrata Satya on Aug 04, 2008 07:05 PM Permalink
But Mr. vig! What about our great rationalist Mr. Agnostic whose ancestors followed Dravdian religion, and who the evil Brahmins forced to convert to Hinduism! Surely rationalists cannot be liars peddling nonsense fantasies! I think you are a Brahmin who is up to his usual tricks of lying, since you are a foreigner in Tamil Nadu and hate the black Dravidians! Remember how Ram the white Aryan humiliated Ravana the black Dravidian - never mind that Ram was said to be dark-skinned and Ravana was a Brahmin well-versed in all scriptures! Mr. Agnostic and Mr. Periyar know it all better! They are rationalists, after all!
RE:Tamils are Hindus
by vignesh vig on Aug 04, 2008 07:40 PM Permalink
Is that Sarcasm? Aryan Invasion Theory is a conspiracy by the British to divide and convert us. As B R Ambedkar says "That the theory of the Aryan race set up by Western writers fails to the ground at every point goes without saying….Anyone who comes to scrutinize the theory will find that it suffers from a ‘double infection.’ He could clearly see the implications of such ill-founded hypotheses which colonial Indology imposed on India and which Indian scholars went on repeating ad nauseam" Dravidam is reference to a geographical location like Anga, Vanga etc., rather than a race. And as you said, Ravana is in fact a Brahmin..
Let me tell u, Periyar and his bhakts are well versed in distorting facts. I once read in a stupid DK daily abt a Tamil verse sung by 'Appar', a saivaite saint in which he wishes to rape jain(Samana) women. Shocked by this, i referred to the original text. I found out that they changed words of the poem to make it mean that way!
RE:Tamils are Hindus
by Die Hard on Aug 04, 2008 07:37 PM Permalink
Go and read the book "History of Tamils" by Srinivasa IYENGAR. If possible read புறநானூறு completely and understand what were the religious beliefs of ancient tamils
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by vignesh vig on Aug 04, 2008 07:46 PM Permalink
புறநானூறு is not your own property.. Its the property of all the tamils. Bring on your knowledge of the ancient text and prove your words. By the way I can refer you many many books by Foriegn historians who condemn Aryan Invasion theory as a Drama staged by Missionaries. But the shameful fact is that Indian Historians accepted it faster than European and american counterparts.
RE:Tamils are Hindus
by Viswa Nath on Aug 04, 2008 07:40 PM Permalink
the facts about India is not published here. Actually India belong to Dravidians. the aryans the encroachers of Iran and Iraq forced the Dravidiana to south India and they reproduced like animals to make India the second largest populated country in the world. Go through the history, in India all the prominant persons and scientists from time immemmorial are from the south India. India would have been more developed than America and Europe if this aryans the kin and kith of Ahmedi Najad and Saddam Hussain were sent bach to Iran and Iraq..
RE:Tamils are Hindus
by Devavrata Satya on Aug 04, 2008 07:58 PM Permalink
I did not know that Rana Pratap and Prithviraj Chauhan were from South India.
I also did not know the JC Bose, Jayant Narlikar, Vikram Sarabhai, Homi Bhabha, Bhatnagar etc. were/are from South India.
Since you claim some " facts ", can you provide evidence for them?
How about bigoted South Indians like you are sent back to Egypt from where you came into India? But rest assured - unlike you, my heart and mind have not been corrupted by hateful nonsense passing for " facts ".
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by vignesh vig on Aug 04, 2008 08:01 PM Permalink
Brother, He is just a product of Macaulay education. Dont develop regional Hatred. We are all Indians and we belong to this nation for ages.
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by vignesh vig on Aug 04, 2008 07:59 PM Permalink
A typical student of History. Brother, the DNA evidences show that all europeans and persians were migrated from South Asia. Ahmedi Najad and Saddam Hussain are originally from here only. your views were that held in 1850s. The only country still persisting with Aryan Invasion Theory is India..
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by Devavrata Satya on Aug 04, 2008 08:07 PM Permalink
Read Grimm Brothers. It clearly says that there are fairies and witches. Therefore these creatures must exist.
RE:RE:Tamils are Hindus
by Rupakshi on Aug 04, 2008 10:33 PM Permalink
"by Viswa Nath on Aug 04, 2008 08:04 PM Yes Aryans are the invaders of India. Read the history books.." Mr. ViswaNath, you may be a scholar in something, one cannot be scholar in everything. It is more than unlikely that some race called Aryan came. May be there was some Tamil religious beliefs which were modified by others-migrations take place all the time and influence local ideas and ideals. Some guys came and suppressed you sounds illogical. If they are that bad, why did they retain your individuality and language any way. I do not believe you know anything. Better read some of the Hindu scriptures, rather than distorted histories written by Roberts and Mullers.
RE:Tamils are Hindus
by vignesh vig on Aug 04, 2008 08:26 PM Permalink
All I am saying is that you should go through the scores of western History books which tell you Aryan Invasion Theory is False along with the DNA evidences and make up your mind on what to believe. You need to hear both the arguments before Judging
PS : I too believed in it after reading my 10th std History book.
Re: Tamils are Hindus
by Mr Pundit on Sep 19, 2008 12:34 PM Permalink
Tamils were never hindus. this is proven fact. They were however converted to brahminic religion during bhakti movement, i would say they were forced to accept dalitism, those who did not convert were mass murdered. Madurai history is witness to these archaelogical facts. Search 56 madurai caves, you will find it was all about dravidian aboriginal religion which is known as Samanar religion (sraminic system) later renamed as Jainism. Unfotunately today jainism is only followed by few converted aryans in few parts of india. where as aborginal jains are hardly few thousand in tamilnadu, maharastra, karnataka and kerala who are mostly known as Nainars.
RE:Tamils are Hindus
by Rupakshi on Aug 04, 2008 10:24 PM Permalink
The Dravidian Aryan was brought about by Max Muller. He himself later regretted and wanted to take out the theory and could not. That served the purpose of dividing India enough for popularizing Christianity, the main purpose of purring forward the theory any way. The antibrahminism is also a powerful tool to weaken Hindus. Brahmins were not just problem for Christian preachings, but a constant problem for British rule in India. The Brahmins who the majority in India were the target of Muslim rulers for the same reason. The crowing achievement of the British is to make them the target of Hindus themselves. I saw a Telugu Movie, Annamacharya, where the producer shows Brahmins burning the saitn's books. Any Brahmin burning a book never occurred in 10k history of India. Without their contributions to India, there is not much of Hindu civilization. Surprisingly, there no God who is portrayed as Brahmin. In-fact all demons including Ravana were Brahmins. These writings and depictions were preserved in various ways by Brahmins. Neither Ramayana or Mahabharata were written by Brahmins, yet Brahmins revered them. The antibrahnin DK movement amazes me. Without them, these guys would have been just tribes, let alone ministers and Governors.
