It must be 500 years of "dhimmitude" under Islamic rule and another 200 years of British colonial rule that has shaped our Hindu elite - ruling us now. They are so ignorant of, and opposed to, Hinduism and its long history. Tarun is right about the inspiration Sri Rama can provide. Only Hindus should be ready to receive it. The ruling class of Hindus are today inspired by "Money-theism" - Not Ram. Read the post by Ved Gautam. You will know the compulsions over this Sethu Project. People without any real cultural roots. They understand only money. Indian democracy has made these people important. Says they are leaders. Everyone has come under their power.
Hindus need to get a feeling of "Biradhri" in matters like the Ram Sethu and in others. Or else, we will become "voting fodder" for this greedy creature called "Indian Politics". Why should we continue to keep in power the Nehruvites, Marxists and Psuedo-secularists? What have they achieved for India in last 60 years they have been in power?
RE:Refusal to draw inspiration from Hinduism
by Tamil natan on Aug 03, 2008 03:16 AM Permalink
Thambi, Forget about your so called North India past- I assume you leave in TN now. Ram is not as popular as it is in states like UP. Here Sivaism is the main religion- so do understand that Ram is not considered a God here. But on the other hand Krishna is - and nobody will say anything on Krishna- but Ram with specially the Dravidian/Aryan controversy and Aryan conqeuring - the black dravidian etc etc (by the way, I am no a stereotype Tamil type, but I am proud of being Tamil)- you at least should understand that Ram will be a foreigner here.
So cut this crap- I assume you understand Sanskrit as well - then you will understand that Hindusim is more co0mplex and Rich than the Ram mythology.
So donot be an ass- and also be a Tamil - and donot be ashame where you were born.
RE:RE:Refusal to draw inspiration from Hinduism
by Devavrata Satya on Aug 03, 2008 12:32 PM Permalink
Mr. Tamil natan,
Just because your great saint Swami Ramasamy Naicker talked nonsense about Ram being an Aryan and Ravana being a Dravidian, why would that mean that Ram is a foreigner in Tamil Nadu?
Would you consider any north Indian who comes to Tamil Nadu a foreigner? I did not know when you guys have declared independance.
What the great EVR failed to note, perhaps deliberately, that Ravana was in fact an Aryan, well-versed in all scriptures, and that Ram has been described as dark-skinned. He seemed to have known that there would be enough gullible fools among Tamils to fall for his lies, and think of themselves - Dravidians - as separate from, and superior to, the "barbaric Aryan" North Indians. It appears that he was not too wrong.
RE:Refusal to draw inspiration from Hinduism
by Thermostat on Aug 03, 2008 02:37 PM Permalink
Mr. Devavrata,
Your earlier posts were OK, but this one is not.
Why are u surprised about a North Indian being a foreigner in South India. Do you assume that it was ONE INDIA before british came. The INDIA we know today is a collection of many nations/kingdoms spread over this subcontinent.
North and South are different. We do not want to FIGHT over it, or be enemies, but atleast acknowledge it. in same way, the NORTH EAST is alien to mainstrean India. The sooner we acknowledgeit, the better.
this INDEPENDENT INDIA is only 50-60 year old and this forcefull collection of nations only 200-300 yrs old. otherwise we are like EUROPE...independent nations.
RE:Refusal to draw inspiration from Hinduism
by Devavrata Satya on Aug 03, 2008 06:07 PM Permalink
Mr. Thermostat,
Thanks for your response.
What do you think makes a "nation"? Race, language or religion? I think a nation is made by people who share a culture. And the culture of India is Hindu and has been Hindu for millenia.
The concept of state is different. The state is a political organisation working with the broad assent of the people constituting a nation or nations. While states change, a nation remains the same.
What you say is true - the Hindu nation was earlier organised into different kingdoms, and that state was superceded by the Indian state 60 years ago. And Bharat, as a cultural unit, was not formed 200-300 years ago, but much before that.
Of course North, South, East, West are all different, and no one is saying they are not. But that does not mean that a person from one part should be thought of and treated like a foreigner in another part - not only because we are all citizens of the Indian state, but because the genius of Hindu civilization has allowed us all to retain our own sub-cultures, yet feel integrated into a larger nation.
Lastly, my post above was mainly in response to Mr. Tamil natan who said that Krishna is fine, but Ram is a foreigner. I asked him if the nonsense that EVR peddled made the nonsense true. What do you think?
RE:Refusal to draw inspiration from Hinduism
by Vivek on Aug 07, 2008 08:56 PM Permalink
Perhaps Mr Tamil Natan feels that their state is more closely linked to another continent than this sub-continent.
