A online exhibition on the history of Kashmir and its current reality. This exhibition was shown at the Captiol Hill in Washington DC to educate US lawmakers about Kashmir.
RE:reality of Kashmir
by JonBonJovi on Apr 28, 2008 03:35 AM Permalink
it doesnt show the acts of genocide of indian army 60000 deaths were all terrorists? y 370 in kashmir? the law of partition of 1947 was "princely states will decide on teir own to either join india or pakistan according to the wishes of its people" now analyse this rule for hyderabad deccan, junagadh and kashmir 1 Hyderabad muslin ruler predominantly hindu population, favored pakistan with no territorial border,police action state annexed rightly done since people shud be with india. 2 Junagadh 99 percent hindu state with muslim ruler, favored pak, police action done, plebscite, state went to india with 99 percent favor for india 3 kashmir muslim dominated ruler hindu, people demanded pakistan and thout he will go for pakistan. signed a treaty with pakistan that he needs time. time for what? sh abdullah was in jail for many years under this raja's rule for freedom activities. no action pakistan put pressure just liek india did on nizam of hyderabad army action,raja asked for indian help nehru asked for sheikh abdllahs release,agreed amry action, war, nehru goes to UN, cease fire,1/3 with pak.2/3 with india with borders with pakistan viable than india,UN asked for plebscite,agreed by indo pak, sh abdullah made kashmiri representative coz of his allegienace to nehru a thankful note for his release and never ending fight bw indo and pak. Now my frnds analyse even if pak did army action and all the bad things the state should be goin to pakistan since if people had been give
RE:reality of Kashmir
by Milind on Apr 28, 2008 05:58 AM Permalink
JonBonJovi,
I agree with you that Hyderabad, Junagadh and parts of Kashmir (not Jammu) should have gone to Pakistan. However in reciprocity all muslims in India should have gone to Pakistan. Then it would be a fair deal since the basis of division of land was religion! Also, there was no reason for India to pay 50 crores to Pakistan ?
RE:reality of Kashmir
by JonBonJovi on Apr 28, 2008 08:55 AM Permalink
Milind not religion it was peoples choice this is the fact! who so ever want to leave can leave but lands with dominant population of one sect will be together that is hindu vs muslim. hyderabad should and junagadh rightly went to india as the demography and population with ppls choice all favor india but in kashmir its a total opposite! Remember the Jamiat Ulema e Hind were against partition they were the hard core muslims!
RE:RE:reality of Kashmir
by JonBonJovi on Apr 28, 2008 03:44 AM Permalink
..if people had been given a choice like junagadh, where india conducted the plebscite coz it knew they will favor india,the people wud have voted for pakistan a fact recognised by Kirshna menon who said a plebscite is end of indian rule in kashmir! now itsego war people suffering in kashmir if u travel from srinagar it takes 24 hours to reach dehli and it takes 3-4 hours to reach rawalpindi in pakistan. The reason for not holding the plebscite was "pakistani terrorists" but elections were always done to make a kashmiri govt isnt this hipocrisy? Nehru's statements liek we dont wnat forced marriages and forced unifications is meaningless when 7 lakh troops are in kashmir with 3 wars in history. had ppl been with india then like khalistan movement the struggle wud have ended. but its not.ull kill one kashmiri freedom fighter banish him pakistani,case closed. both side of the border kashmir is autonomous ie they have their own govt,u cant buy land there only thing common on both sides is its army that is on borders. India has 370 rule to maintain kashmir in its territory pak has AJK to maintain its part,we will keep on fighting people will die but egos will never go down! Hari Singhs accession document never shown to international media and UN proves it a forged document. 2ndly even if he signed like junagadh nizam its meaningless and wishes of ppl were not cared for.many who fought the war were kashmiris.Keep on fighting. and im ready for some hate msgs try refuting them wit
RE:reality of Kashmir
by raaj on Apr 28, 2008 04:05 AM Permalink
i understand from your writing that you are indian , discontent with indian govt. you are wrong at the reason that, it is because of ego, it is bcos , the most important rivers flow from kashmir to both india & pak, if either of the one gets hold of kashmir, the looser will be dried up without water, that is the main reason it is so contentious, Even if india didnot intervene and if pak got kashmir, it would be like one more bangladesh. bcos there punjabis keeps dominating others. you are also wrong that on both sides people can buy land, it is true with pak, but not with india, no outsider can buy land in kashmir. the best solution for now would be to make the LOC as permenent border.
RE:reality of Kashmir
by JonBonJovi on Apr 28, 2008 05:00 AM Permalink
LOC as almost permanent! in pak people cant buy land in AJK plus they ahve thir own govt president and different flag!
RE:reality of Kashmir
by JonBonJovi on Apr 28, 2008 04:31 AM Permalink
i am a pakistani! but i am glad u recognised the real issue! ego is there too!water control is another big issues!like the new dam built by india in kashmir has implications for pakistan!i will refute the logic abt another bangladesh!the sole reason for its partition was no contagious border with pak. had kashmir been where bangladesh is and india where pak is then analyse the scanrio. punjabis dominating is a bit too much the reason punjab in pak shows too much is population,plus the votes u get are thru development,ppl are educated unlike sind where feudalism prevails and baluchistan where tribalism is dominant.nothing liek tht in punjab and nwfp reason of education.plus many in punjab join military due to cultural heritage and attitude. Now dear analyse if water is issue isnt it an issue for pakistan? that is y in pak we take kashmir as jugular vein of pakistan!plus the population and geographical demography favor kashmir with pakistan.this notion u have to agree upon! bangladesh never suited pakistan that is y Mountbatten famously told Nehru that in less than 25 years pak will loose it. rest is history aided by wrong policy and fuled by indian intelligence Shiekh Mujib did what pakistan is trying in kashmir! fate met Shiekh mujib still in indo pak matches they favor pak over india their savior. any way delighted to see a logical answer from u! peace!
RE:RE:reality of Kashmir
by JonBonJovi on Apr 28, 2008 03:48 AM Permalink
John if they wud know tht or read history via neutral sources many will know what is reality!i am not blaming india,its states reason to make its lands bigger capture and occupy,had pakistan been in the position it wud have done so! but wat pains is the people! in pak ull hear kashmiris dying in india ull hear pandits dying but look at stats 80-20 or 70-30 is the ratio its even higher than PUNJAB which was divided but not kashmir. ferozpur was given to pakistan until 8 august 1947 but on 17 aug itw as indian part. reason? it was 95 percet muslim plus had the largest cantonment.from here operation gulbarg was lanched lus it gave india a contagious border with kashmir. read and use logic!
