I agree with you that Hyderabad, Junagadh and parts of Kashmir (not Jammu) should have gone to Pakistan. However in reciprocity all muslims in India should have gone to Pakistan. Then it would be a fair deal since the basis of division of land was religion!
Think about it, if all muslims in India were in Pakistan: 1. Indian congress would not be wooing Muslims for minority votes. BJP would not even exist. 2. Pakistani politicians couldnt use Kashmir as an election issue. Instead they would have been exposed of their inability to govern and remove poverty in Pakistan. 3. All political parties both in India and Pakistan would be fighting elections on real issues.
I think it will be win-sin situation. Can we do it now ? Probably not since Pakistan will not accept India Muslims and India will not give up Kashmir. So why fight on a problem that we cannot solve ? Let us try to solve problems of poverty and education. Maybe after 500 years everyone will form a part of a Union like European Union and the problem will be solved automatically. Remember that France and Britain were fierce enemies. I guess the difference is that both are Christian countries.
RE:Hyderabad, Junagadh and parts of Kashmir
by Virgo on Apr 28, 2008 09:50 AM Permalink
No. Hyderabad, Junagad, Kashmir, Sindh, Paki Punjab, Baluchistan, NWFP/FATA, Bangladesh all belongs to India. Don't forget that the Muslims said that they are different people, different nation and different culture and that they are Arabs, Afghans, Mongols, Turks and Persians. If so, they are occupying Indian land. They should all go back to Arabia, Persia, Turkey, Afghanistan and CARs, the places from where they invaded Indian land and occupied and subjugated the population.
RE:Hyderabad, Junagadh and parts of Kashmir
by Milind on Apr 28, 2008 09:59 AM Permalink
Virgo,
I was giving JonBonJovi from Pakistan a chance to make a reasonable argument while making a demand for Kashmir. It was my mistake. We can wakeup someone who is sleeping. How can we awaken someone who is pretending to sleep ?
Read my last para to him: What have you done with the land that you already have ? Who has pushed Pakistan in to military rule, lawlessness, suicide bombing & poverty ? Hindus in India ?
Instead of answering my logical questions, now he will duck and write something unrelated or end up saying 'We want Kashmir. It doesnt matter that we will make it in to another Afghanistan'.
RE:Hyderabad, Junagadh and parts of Kashmir
by JonBonJovi on Apr 28, 2008 08:50 AM Permalink
choice is for people! who wanted to stay stayed who wanted to move was to move! partition was demography! in interior Sind of pakistan many hindus stayed and never migrated like may muslims in india! so we arent discussing that we are discussing the simple rule to decide about princely states! everyone in india knows that a plebescite means an end to indian claim on kashmir,if not then there wouldnt been 7 lakh army deployed there. Punajb had 60-40 muslim domination but was divided and majority of the deaths happened there,ferozpur people knew that they will be in pakistan until 8aug but on 17th the story was different. 99 percent was the population and now its less than 2 percent many got killed in the same manner sikhs and hindus of lahore and lyallpur. It was politics but what aches me is when india claims kashmir as its crown while fully knowing the reality of accession. Pak is no angel we have faults as well that resulted in loss of E Pak now bangladesh but if pak employs the same notion on kashmir today then it becomes "terrorism" but in 1971 india supported bengalis then it was freedom struggle. one mans freedom fighter is another mans terrorist holds true! If we are so confident tht is pak and india then let plebescite to go forward and as they say in urdu "doodh ka doodh pani ka pani hojay ga" everything will be crystal clear! I must appreciate u tht atleast u agreed that they shud have gone to pakistan. I solmenly say junagadh and hyderabad after police action re
RE:Hyderabad, Junagadh and parts of Kashmir
by Milind on Apr 28, 2008 09:34 AM Permalink
JonBonJovi,
You say that choice is for people. If that was the case, was India given land in proportion to Hindus and Muslims that decided to stay in India ? NO! So when we divide the land, we use religion. While deciding who stays where, it is peoples' choice ? Kya arguement hai ? Wah!
When India parted with a part of its land to Pakistan on the basis of religion, why was this basis not strictly followed ? I would compare this with the previous owner of the house you bought still occupying the bathroom saying he likes the bathroom since he has emotions attached to it. So we make special rules in this new house (Muslim law in India) we bought where the original owner can occupy the bathroom when he needs it. Funny thing is this house belonged to our ancestors to begin with.
If Muslims can get a minority status in other states, shouldnt Hindus get a minority status in Kashmir ? Instead we make a special article where non-Kashmiris cannot settle or own property in Kashmir. Hindu pandits have been driven away by ethnic cleansing.
Muslim % in India has increased from 5% to 20% of population. Hindu population in Pakistan has decreased to probably less than 1%. What happened to the Hindus ? Our Presidents, Film stars, Sportsmen are Musllims. Can you name any Hindu who has made it big in Pakistan ?
What have you done with the land that you already have ? Who has pushed Pakistan in to military rule, lawlessness, suicide bombing & poverty ? Hindus in India ?
