In answer to this we always get replies that more or less suggest that religion is the actual devil blocking the progress of humanity.This is especially true in the case of Muslims who bear the brunt of this onslaught from this so called intelligentsia.Finally The much celeberated secular edifice is finally crumbling.Here is why
Copernicus Revolution - Touted by the secular west as the gigantic leap from religious dogmaticism into enlightment is after all found to be a shameless plagiarism by the Nicolus copernicus.
and from whom he stole it?Nasirudin al Tusi and Ibn Shatir the great medival islamic scientists.what is striking is,he was not just influenced by them rather,he had copied their works verbatim and shamelessly took credit for centuries.
In academic cricles copernicus is already trashed for his plagiarism and the new book The Ancient Roots of Modern Science by Dick Teresi has brought this into public forum. A review of this book is here
Institue for Oreintal study - Thane (This is actually a Hindutuva website,i gave this because something as fundamentally challenging as this would require a website favorable to them )
RE:Is religion a stumbling block to progress??
by JGN on Apr 09, 2008 09:39 PM Permalink
Dear Balaord, some absurd beliefs of the hindus do not make them "gospel truths" It really saddens me when even well educated persons like you are repeating the outdated religious dogmas.
Do you believe that "the most merciful allah" has kept ready some "Paradise" with abundant supply of "wine, woman, water, fruits, etc" ????
RE:Is religion a stumbling block to progress??
by balaord on Apr 09, 2008 09:44 PM Permalink
can you scientifically prove the non existence of GOD or Heaven or Hell? The answer is simple NO.But some how the followers of atheism hide behind science and call those who belive in GOD and Heaven as outdated and uneducated as if these are emprically proven facts. I have thousand reasons to belive in the existence of GOD than not.I dont have the blind faith to belive that everything with its inter depenedencies and perfection came into being with out a designer behind it.
RE:Is religion a stumbling block to progress??
by asad syed on Apr 10, 2008 01:30 AM Permalink
JGN, why you question the ability of God for supplying " abundant" wine water fruits etc? ( abundant women is an exageration from yourside..i dont know you did it deliberately as usual to disparage Islam or just included by mistake ...don't say 72 virgins are abundant etc etc ) Just tell me...can you tell how big is our universe? or how many starts or celestial objects are there in space? take any units..."light years to travel" for measuring the size of the universe...can you give me exact figure? at least no. of stars??? So if God could creat this much bigger universe, what will stop him from providing a paradise with abundant fruit, wine and water??? Besides whatever the fundamentals of applies sceince, sociology, economics,logic and intellectual thinking you are using to judge God...these are knoweldges have come to us by studying and experimenting the existing world around us...like we throw the stone in air and it come back to earth...we call it gravity...but if you go in space there is no gravity....so you can make use of gravitational force of earh within the influencial sphere of earth....in the same way...whatever knowledge of different subjects you have..it applies to us...human beings...but u can not judge God with this trivial knowledge...God is not like us human beings...his properties are different...
RE:Is religion a stumbling block to progress??
by JGN on Apr 09, 2008 09:44 PM Permalink
Pl leave him alone. He is content with pasting links and resting on the past laurels.
RE:RE:Is religion a stumbling block to progress??
by balaord on Apr 09, 2008 09:49 PM Permalink
There is nothing past or present about these things.Modern science cannot exist without these foundations.
RE:Is religion a stumbling block to progress??
by Saugata Banerjee on Apr 09, 2008 09:50 PM Permalink
I am proud of u JGN. U r expressing ur views neutrally and non-biasing but I have watched all muslim attender r either pasting or expressing views with hatred , obsenity, uncultured way . I am shameful to think that Indian muslims were our brother only as they were earlier hindus only , may be our long relatives.Indian Muslim , do not hate hindu because they r ur past and present.
RE:RE:Is religion a stumbling block to progress??
by asad syed on Apr 10, 2008 01:35 AM Permalink
knock knock... Saugata Banerjee...actually it should be vice versa.... anyways...good try to hide the nasty nature of the comments from "yourside" and label it against "ourside" any guy who will read all the comments from ppl like you or JGN and then the comments of ppl like balrod or other such guys will judge very well who is doing what.... if you try to spat with your face up towards sky...it will fell back on your face.... and JGN is the biggest "copy/paste" warrior I have ever seen on rediff.
RE:RE:Is religion a stumbling block to progress??
by balaord on Apr 09, 2008 09:47 PM Permalink
I am expressing my views, the only difference is I am also giving references to substantiate my claims.I cant help.If my reference overshawdows my views.
