nobody has proved that ram did not exist. that's fine - but will anyone standup & prove that ram did exist ????? where are the bjp, rss, shivsenas & so called hindu fundamentalist ????? (hindus ke rakwala)
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by Religious Scholar on Sep 26, 2007 12:45 PM Permalink
How can those rascals prove???? Those rascals must have not read even one letter of the Gita, Ramayana, Mahabharatha or other vedic texts... they are here only to exploit the people's sentiments and make money and make lives comfortable for themselves... do u think they are bothered about other Hindus???? All bulllll Shiiiiiiittt!!!
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by aniruddha Deshpande on Sep 26, 2007 01:10 PM Permalink
Ram Exists, Ram Does not exist, Ram existed few thousand years back, Ram'a existance is not a History but mythology....and so on. So many opinions and so much of an chaos. Can we debate on some issues which are more important than these. Important issue is "If some millions are having a faith in Ram, what does this faith is giving rise to? " If this faith makes them strong and determined to follow the Path of truth and believe in all the good qualities and inspires them for building a "Maryadashil" i.e. Selfcontrolled character into them; It is really good. Mere Existance of Ram is not important; important is the existance of ideologies of Ram. Ram or Krishna are the charactors which are not meant to be tested on scientific and physical sciences but they are more importantly to be tested by the principles , teachings and the messages given by these characters. If we try to follow these , Ram Exists even today. If we do not follow this, Ram never existed because his teachings and charishma can not be so weak that we forget these within a short span of few thousand years. As far as the bridge " RAMSETU" is concerned, the issue is bringing out "Demonic nature of Ravana" within us and suppressing "Godly characteristics of Ram" . So it makes us believe that "Ravana" is the truth and "Ram" is Myth in todays context. May be the demonic stance of destroying the natural-supernatural treasure of the Natures (Or Rama's) Special creation for a few thousand dollor
We do not require any proof or evidence about the existence of Ram. Since you and like minded people are saying about the non existence of Ram, then you have to prove your claim.
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by ems nnn on Sep 26, 2007 01:12 PM Permalink
Yes Asim. We believe that Lord Rama existed. If somebody wanna convince us the other way then they must prove that Lord Rama did not existed. Also I have a question ? Whatever there in history books do u believe??? There are mention of Adi Sankara's works in other works of people who existed before Adi Sankara. It is doubtful that the King Vikram of Avanti was the King Chandragupta 2 of Guptas. So that is the pathetic state of Indian history
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by GN on Sep 26, 2007 12:44 PM Permalink
to prove the existance of something which existed 10 thousand year back will be a herculian task. isn't it.
I dont like any religious campainers, belonging to any religion. Hinduism, Christianity, Islam. Everybody is interested to benefit themself from it not the public.
But questioning other religions and its existance is really shameful. Every religion has some myths unproven, which cannot be defined and proved by anybody.
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by abhinav on Sep 26, 2007 12:49 PM Permalink
and jay kay....u believe that prophet mohammed had split the moon in two...........or that christ bieng son of god did not know when adam and eve were placed on this earth.......??
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by vikas on Sep 26, 2007 01:11 PM Permalink
Leave friend i think we need not to prove anything i front of peiople like jay kay. I think his father was mohd. or christan. dirty fellow
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by arungopal agarwal on Sep 26, 2007 12:49 PM Permalink
Yes, we can prove Ram, If you go historically, the history is available in script form only upto 1000 BC, but through stories/verbal communiation, it is proved that prior to history, Ram was in existence through his stories. If you take religiously,Yes, Ram is in every corner, everywhere, his importance/presence can be seen. If you want to see him with logic, he can be shown to you with logic too, for that you will have to make yourself first SUPATRA(develop) yourself. Ramsetu or any related things may be controversial for certain people creating hatred, but Ram is non controversial.
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by yogi goli on Sep 26, 2007 12:56 PM Permalink
E man u are walking on earth that doesn't mean that u are GOD and u are just a man. You are correct now u understand Ram didn't walk on earth becuase he is all above the earth and watching u nonsense people. The thing which u can not see is GOD. Now u understand the meaning of GOD. Also tell karunanidhi and karat also those who don;t know what is mean by GOD. Tomorrow people will think that karunanidhi is god because these people will portrait like that. If u don;t know about other religion then please don't comment. It will hurt their sentiments.
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by abhinav on Sep 26, 2007 12:48 PM Permalink
yes george......rig veda is full of details about how viman can be built..............they had technology at that time to separate hydrogen from water........
the vimans at that time were not supersonic jets like in our present modern age.........
most probably they were hydrogen filled aloons flying at the speeed of wind.......which explains why ram took 14 days to reach from Lanka to Ayodhya.......(consider the distance to be say 25000 km.....and divide it by average wind speed of 2 m/s...u will get the answer).......
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by The Truth on Sep 26, 2007 12:46 PM Permalink
Why order aircrafts from boeing?, should have read Vaimanika shastra and built it in India.
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by GN on Sep 26, 2007 12:52 PM Permalink
the truth is very simple my dear. the arguement on every issue clearly shows the unity we currently have among the new generation.
The knowledge handed over by the older generation through the Vedas, were never used by us but we spend time arguing on religions issues with each other.
But the Western world know how to use our resources of knowledge and label it with their names.
the latest example is the patent of ayurvedic medicines by US.
idiot beliefs & faiths are differ from Science , did any body force u to practice the particular religion ? i think in India its not possible particularly form Hindus side bcoz we ppl never forced anybody to do that, its possible only in Islam & Christianlity, so don't try to hurt others feelings.
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by yogi goli on Sep 26, 2007 12:47 PM Permalink
u prove then what u want. Why are u questiong a boy. The better don't speak when u don;t know. That is what everybody is speaking. U don;t know whether Ram exist or not then why are u opening your mouth.
