I have been trying to have a reasonable debate on the legacy of the Dravidian movement with MGR Fan and he comes up with ridiculous statements and plain lies..
RE:Facts necessary for debate
by MGR Fan on Sep 23, 2007 09:43 PM Permalink
As per Jackson's logic -
Whatever he says is facts. Whatever DMK supporters say is fact. Whatever those who oppose DMK are plain lies.
No point debating with you. You are blind to reason.
One last thing - DMK is not TN and TN is not DMK . You support DMk as you like and to extent you like, dont expect everyone of us to support DMK family rule
RE:Facts necessary for debate
by Jackson on Sep 23, 2007 09:45 PM Permalink
DMK represents TN more than you do,
Kalaignar was right, Ram worship is not traditional culture of Tamils. ONly a few Alwars and Vaishnavite sects worship Ram. Most Tamils diety is not Ram.
Besides Kulothunga CHola exiled the Saint Ramanuja for trying to bring in the Ram Culture.
Ram worship only took off after the Nayakers took control of Tamil Nadu.
Kalaignar was historically and socially right on that as well.
RE:RE:Facts necessary for debate
by MGR Fan on Sep 23, 2007 09:48 PM Permalink
Atheism is not the tradition of Tamils either...
As far as Ram, there is Kamba ramayanam to disprove it. ... there are temples like Eri Kaatha Ramar temple.. of course, you will disagree on all that.
Nayakers are also part of TN. They are OBCs and sons of soil.
Karunanidhi may tell what he wants, alwars and vaishnavites are as much part of tamil culture as murugan or as Christians. Ayyavazhi is offshot of vaishnavism and deeply followed in TN by MBCs.
And of course people like you worship DMK , but again DMK is not same as TN
RE:Facts necessary for debate
by Jackson on Sep 23, 2007 09:50 PM Permalink
Nayakkers are Telugu invaders and not Tamils .. You are absolutely ignorant ..
RE:Facts necessary for debate
by MGR Fan on Sep 23, 2007 09:56 PM Permalink
What exactly is tamil then? Nayakars are now OBcs and part of society. Can you define racial origin of pure tamil? Answer is you cant. There is nothing like that. People who followed tamil culture and settled here are tamils. Incl muslims, christians and nayakars and MGR
There was no telugu, tamil divide etc...earlier you said all dravidans are same, now you divide telugu tamil .. funny...
RE:Facts necessary for debate
by dinesh kumar on Sep 23, 2007 09:47 PM Permalink
opposition is necessary. what u r doing is propaganda. and entirely peppered with misinformation,half truths and lies. and u know it.
RE:Facts necessary for debate
by swan on Sep 23, 2007 09:47 PM Permalink
wel said MGR....jackson does not want debate but wants someone to just accept his lie.
RE:Facts necessary for debate
by Lucky B on Sep 23, 2007 09:47 PM Permalink
There is nothing like Dravidian, Aryan races. All are to gain political power.
Ideology made you believe blindly what your master says. Go and free yourself from DMK's slavery.
