"The Western European area is regarded as a fixed pole, a unique patch chosen on the surface of the sphere for no better reason, it seems, than because we live on it %u2013 and great histories of millennial duration and mighty faraway Cultures are made to revolve around this pole in all modesty. It is a quaintly conceived system of sun and planets. We select a single bit of ground as the natural center of the historical system, and make it the central sun. From it all the events of history receive their real light; from it their importance is judged in perspective."
(source: The Decline of the West - By Oswald Spengler p. 13).
RE:History...
by tan on Sep 22, 2007 01:59 PM Permalink
I THINK SESHADRI YOU DONT HAVE THE ABILITY TO ARGUE AND TALK LOGIC BASED ON SCIENTIF FACTS. WHERE DID YOU GET THIS IDEA OF SUN AND CENTRE OF KNOWLEDGE FROM.. ANYWAYS YOU TALK ABOUT SO MUCH AT TIMES WHEN YOU SUITE YOUSELF YOU BRING SCIENCE WHEN IT DOES NOT YOU TAKE SCIENCE OUT.. DONT PLAY A GAME OF A HYPOCRITE... STICK TO ONE PRICIPLE AND TALK. AS A MATTER OF FACT YOU HINDUS CANNOT DEBATE WITH KARUNANADHI AS HE IS SCIETIFICALLY , SPIRITUALLY MORALLEY CORRECT ABOUT THE EXISTANCE OF RAM HANUMAN AND RAVAN... EVEN GANESH SHIVE PARVATHI.
RE:History...
by tan on Sep 22, 2007 02:33 PM Permalink
INSANE PEOPLE ALWAYS SAY OTHERS ARE INSANE.. GALELIO WAS CONSIDERED INSANE... BESIDES I THINK NOW YOU WANT TO DEVIATE FROM THE ORIGINAL TOPIC COME TO YOUR REAL ATTITUDE.. TWISTED HEAD FOR SURE YOU HAVE..
What logic and scientific evidence your Karunanidhi is talking? There is ample evidence on the existence of Ram. YOu can go through the information available on nets, if you are not aware of the same. Ram's exact birthday has been calculated based on the position of the stars at the time of his birth.
RE:History...
by Jeffrey Sharma on Oct 27, 2007 09:53 PM Permalink
OK ramnath babu, just copy one evidence from net and let me know.... you are a fool, show me one proof which is historic. You will say harry potter of James bond 007 is also future american and british gods in 3000 A.D. and there are ample proof on net.... ha..h.a.....
RE:History...
by tan on Sep 22, 2007 02:53 PM Permalink
OOHHH GOD WHAT A JOKE ... CAN YOU GIVE ME ONE PROOF ONE RAMS EXISTANCE.. ONE PROOF. I AM ASKING FOR JUST ONE AND NOT TWO ALSO.. HANUMAN'S EXISTANCE... THERE IS NOT SCIENTIFIC BASES FOR THIS AT ALL. WHO CALCULATED RAM BIRTH.. EVEN IN AYODIYA IT WAS RAJIV GANDHI WHO WENT AND PLACES IDOLS IN BABRI MASJID. NOW I DONT WANT TO GET INTO THAT DEBATE.. BUT LETS STICK TO THIS ONE... CAN YOU GIVE SO AN EVIDENCE OF RAM HANUMAN EVER WALKED ON THIS PLANET.. YOU CALL IT AMPLE I WILL BE VERY VERY GENEROUS WITH YOU.. PLEASE GIVE ME ONE EVIDENCE...OF RAMS EXISTANCE. MIND YOU IT WAS YOU OWN HINDU ARCHEOLOGIST AND WHAT EVER SCIENTIST WHO WENT TO RAM SETHU AND CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT RAM NEVER EXISTED.. IF YOU GIVE ME PROOF I WILL TAKE YOUR PROOF AND STAGE A MARCH TO KARUNANADHIS PARTY HQ AND DEBATE WITH HIM.. HELP ME OUT HERE I WANT SCIENTIFIC AND LOGICAL EXPLANATION. NOT SOME FANTASY LAND STORY LIKE YOU SAID ABOUT BIRTH
RE:RE:History...
by tan on Sep 22, 2007 03:28 PM Permalink
OK BUT YOU HAVENT ANSWERED BY QUESTION. WHAT SHOULD I GET FROM NET FOR RAM TO EXIST. IN THE NET THERE ARE MORE SITES AND HINDU AUTHORS WHO CLAIM THE NON EXISTANCE OF RAM.. ACCORDING TO RAMAYAN. 1) RAM WAS A WOMANIZER 2) RAM WAS IMPOTENT 3) SITE LOVED RAVANA 4) RAM USE TO EAT BEEF 5) RAM COULD NOT PROTECT HIS WIFE 6) RAM AS A GOD HAD TO TAKE HELP OF AN ANIMAL HANUMAN WHOSE EXISTANCE IS A INSANITY. 7) RAM HAD TO KILL HANUMANS BROTHER IN RETURN FOR HANUMANS HELP 8) HANUMAN COULD FLY AND CARRY MOUNTAIN THEN WHY NOT HANUMAN TAKE RAM TO LANKA THEN TO KEEP HIS WIFE WITH RAVANA FOR 14 YEARS.. 9) ACCORDING TO RAMAYAN SITA FELL IN LOVE WITH RAVANA AND WHEN RAM LIBERATED HER FROM RAVANA SITE HAD RAVANAS PHOTOS IN HER BOSSOM THIS IS ALL ACCORDING TO RAMAYAN AND I HAVE READ IT ... WHEN SITAS SISTER CAME AND TOLD RAM ABOUT THIS RAM WENT TO SITAS HOUSE AND FOUND SITE WITH RAVANAS PHOTO ON LEAF HELD IN HER BOSSOM. SITA WAS IMPRESSED WITH RAVANS PALACE... THE MOMENT SHE SAW IT AND FELL IN LOVE WITH HIM WHEN RAM ASKED SITAS FIDELITY SITA COULD NOT ANSWER AND SHE WENT UNDERGROUND... NOW LAV AND KUSH RAM;S SON ALSO IT IS SAID THAT THEY WERE THE SONS OF RAVANA... RAM HAD MANY DEVDASIS. SITA HER SELF TOLD TO RAM THAT HE WAS IMPOTENT.. SO LORD RAM LOOK MORE OF A MAN AND RAVANA LOOKS MORE LIKE GOD..
You have read and completely understood Ramayana. That is why you stated that Ram Killed Hanuman's brother, in return of his help?? This Ramayana is not written by Valmiki, I am sure. I do not know which Ramayana you read.
RE:RE:RE:History...
by tan on Sep 22, 2007 03:31 PM Permalink
ASTROLOGY IS OK. SO IF I GIVE THE POSITION OF MARS AND MOON AND SUN AND GOD KNOW WHAT ALL HE WANTS AND HE WILL GIVE ME A DATE.. AND WHAT DO I GET HIS BIRTH DAY.. RAMAS EVEN CRAY COMPUTER CAN DO IT... THAT STILL DOES NOT PROVE THE EXISTANCE OF RAM.. EVEN PHAOROS BONES ARE FOUND TODAY... BUT NOT OF RAM . FORGET RAM NO BONES OF SPECIES LIKE HANUMAN ,... ACCORDING TO THE RAMAYAN MANY MONKEYS BUILD THAT BRIDGE ISNT IT .. WHERE HAVE ALL THERE SPECIES BONES GONE.. VANISHED
RE:RE:History...
by tan on Sep 22, 2007 03:33 PM Permalink
WHAT IF THE NET WAS NOT AVAILABLE WHAT WOULD YOU SAY.. HOW CONVINIENTLY YOU HAVE SAID IT WITH GREAT LETHARGY AND INSANITY..
