BJP is based on religion, apart from that nothing is special , it can only get vote from hardline citizens who are brain washed. so their only agenda was ram mandir before now ram sethu. anyways can anybody explain was ram god or a normal human being? i have a very important and question if you answer whether ram was god or normal human being or did not exists.
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by Mayur Devendra Punekar on Sep 21, 2007 05:51 PM Permalink
well as such i m not a fan of BJP and don't want to get int debate about their agendas, but for your information, in India we give chance to even humans to be God !! its not like other religion where u have divide (Dvaita in Sanskrit) between human and God ! its all about non-dual (Advaita in Sanskrit) in sanatan dharma (Hindu religion for most others) where you can be God too ! So although Ram was normal human being, his actions (karma) made him God in eyes of every one. I know that this communist and others so called "secular" parties try to deny his existence, but from my point of view if I can't prove his existence, I already know that, they can't disprove his existence on their so called logic and research (for your information I my self doing research in Europe in Computer eng.), so I choose to believe God Ram existed, now its your decision what to choose !!
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by karunesh misra on Sep 21, 2007 05:29 PM Permalink
Certainly 25% indians are hardliners.... good news.That's why India is survivng to some extent.
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by rohit roy on Sep 21, 2007 05:41 PM Permalink
Sorab can you locate just 2/3 generations back of your ancetral house? Today those who are thining about themselves under banner of pragmatism and practicalism are in fact the biggest nonesense idiot, who have no capacity to think about others emotions and feelings, and go so far in selfishness and self love that they don;t hesitate generating some morass without which life would be much easier. I just ask you and your kind of guys to go to your grandmother, snatch the mala of manka from her hand, shower abuses over these helpless people who everyday in this ruthless turning society of country gets some power and hope to survive and find peace in the name of Ram. Is that their sin that people like you the pesudointellectuals have castigating Ram and his existence? What your kind want? if your head is so sound then why you are not able to see that as the number of your kidn of people has increased so has increased the tension and differences in the society. You protest against hindu hardliners but ever thought why they got the ground? just due to you people who are so much mindless that they forget the social reprucursions of such irresponsible behavior. Ram will survive and Ram will be always there, because it's not a human being but a belief, a faith and a philosophy to lead life who will keep on winning over your kind of demons and your kind of Breed, who have become a bit overconfident over their head and time! Ram is not a body, nor any soul but a power which always repre
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by Virendra Singh on Sep 21, 2007 05:54 PM Permalink
No, thank god only 25% are hardliners. Otherwise our country is doomed. It is other 75% who are carrying India forwards inspite of you 25%.
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by karunesh misra on Sep 21, 2007 05:37 PM Permalink
Todays progressives believe their forefathers were monkeys that's why they talk & behave rubbish but I believe my forefathers were Rishis that's why I believe in Ram.
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by karunesh misra on Sep 21, 2007 05:38 PM Permalink
Todays progressives believe their forefathers were monkeys that's why they talk & behave rubbish but I believe my forefathers were Rishis that's why I believe in Ram.
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by Raghavendra Ravi on Sep 21, 2007 05:26 PM Permalink
It actually does not matter if Ram existed or not. If you hold a set of qualities as ideal and if it inspires you that is good enough. If millions of people hold the same idol as inspiration, even better. Forget the BJP. If some one disagrees with you, you will try to convince the person and if he still does not change, you will leave him alone and go your way. But many parties like DMK are bent on insulting people just because they think that Ram is an inspiration to them!! Who are they inspired by ??
Now MK says that he is simply interested in the project - if it can be made without disturbing Ram Sethu it is OK with him! Why can he not begin with this statement?? The problem would have been solved. This project was approved by BJP government !! There are several environmental concerns against this project. Many details need to be worked out. A project of this size always will put somebody under disadvantage and they have to be taken care of.
forget the BJP // Congress and DMK are not saints.
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by sorab singh on Sep 21, 2007 05:27 PM Permalink
I have no doubts that Ram Never Existed.IF you see history,there are no remains of Ram.And the whole ramayana is like a fairy tale told to a kid.There is no scientific proof.There are not even coins of his date.Also if you read the life of valmiki,he was nothing but a physic persons,mentally unstable person.And today the hindus are beleiving the words of this mad man.Ram is purely a myth but today politicians are playing with it for their benifit. And in name of this non existent ram,babri masjid was broken to make ram temple.Also there so much fuss made ot when Taslima nasreen was attcked.but hardly very few know that in bangalore karunanidi's daughter was attcked by RSS and VHP and 2 persons were burnt alive in TN bus.Aren't they spreading voilence in the name of Ram,or Hindu religion??? Are they not terrorists.What sholud i call i Hindutva Terrorists.These few black sheeps are spreading terror in name of hindu religion shame on all indians who tolerate them.Can we ban these groups don't we have the political will to do that??
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by sreedhar s on Sep 21, 2007 10:31 PM Permalink
Hey sorab, What's the guarantee that it was not just a handi-work of DMK followers or some tamilians. They just created to gain popularity and sympathy.
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by Sun on Sep 21, 2007 05:23 PM Permalink
Does it matter whether Ram was a God or a normal human. Just follow the way he lived & then you will know.
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by Jai Sharma on Sep 21, 2007 05:33 PM Permalink
Centruries have passed, and you are second to MK of Chenai who is asking such a ridiculous question. In your home you respect your forefather's picture becuase you were told by your father/mother that these were your elders and you are part of their family. Do you ask your family about their existance/proof! Your reply to this will be my answer to your asked silly question. Lord Ram was/is/will remain God forever. Say Hare Ram. From J. Sharma
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by Jai Sharma on Sep 21, 2007 09:05 PM Permalink
Thanks Manoj Mehtaji, for nice understanding. Due to political scene in the country, the illiterate people like MK, make some drunken person as valmiki and ask him to write un-likely things to malign God's name. AS long as MK will be wearing black glass on his (inner mind-in hindi to pronounce "man") eyes won't be possible for him to see clear things. When MK can stoop so low for the creator of this universe than what to say about him. I remember some one has written that let us keep things for God to decide fate for MK as he will be getting his dues for his KARMAS. Hare Ram.
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by karunesh misra on Sep 21, 2007 05:41 PM Permalink
But MK's forefathers were Rakshasas so why he should believe in Ram.He believes in Ram only when manhandled my Jayalalita
