All I want to ask my muslim brothers is one things. What comes first - Your Religion or Your Country. Answer this first, because in Hyderabad the Majlis, which has 5 MLAs and one MP in the Lok Sabha has said that his religion comes first and then the country. And this is the part which Congress has a tie-up with and considers as a Secular Party. My Foot.
RE:One simple question
by MUHAMMED AKHTAR on Sep 17, 2007 01:31 PM Permalink
How this is related to Campus violence Mr Suresh unless you suffer from Religiophobia and need immediate hospitalisation.
RE:One simple question
by shibashis sengupta on Sep 17, 2007 01:46 PM Permalink
Message for both Mohd Khan & Muhammed Akhtar - I guess you both need not be so pertubed.For Muslims , it always has been religion over country.Accept it.Lets not get into the ethical and relative debate about Jews , Hindus & Christains.Its not the point.Look at all the strive and bloodshed even relative to as you would wish to compare with the Hindus, your guys have topped the chart.I surely dont support what Narendra Modi has done in Gujarat.But i guess , for your kind it always has been religion over country.I guess that always has been and that always will be.60 years of history post independence has been a testimonial to this fact.I going by the next 60 more years , it surely would be the same.So relax and take a chill pill.Be what you are , for that whats you were :)
RE:One simple question
by Vipin Chandran on Sep 17, 2007 02:16 PM Permalink
I suppose this debate completely 'cliche'd ! Fundamentalists and religious fanatics whether Islamic, Christian or Hindu, around the world have only one agenda - keep the world divided. How else do they further their vested interests ! Please do not get carried away by what the INC or the BJP are saying about the Sethu project. There are heavy under currents of regional politics ( the DMK is the culprit ) in the whole affair ! As for the violence in AMU, when have this institution been peaceful and presented a conducive atmosphere to serious students ! Allah jane !
RE:One simple question
by Chanakya on Sep 17, 2007 02:19 PM Permalink
ha ha Shibashish writes and shibashis applauds... arey, name tho change karo reply karthe waqth
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by muslim on Sep 17, 2007 03:12 PM Permalink
religion first ,first allah uske baad sab,yeh question to un hinuoon aur sikho se puchna chahiye jo USA aur england ki nationality lane ke liye bahan (sister) ko bibi (wife ) banae ko tayyar hai
RE:One simple question
by mohammed uddin on Sep 17, 2007 01:54 PM Permalink
I see many indian go to other country for various purpose. Given an option most of we IT professional will go to western countries.
Then how can be loyal to country who say country first. Will you leave your religion like this ?
RE:One simple question
by sandeepnair on Sep 17, 2007 02:00 PM Permalink
lots of indians go abroad and settle there....that doesnt mean that they become traitors in the name of religion.u were born and brought up here. the indian govt subsidised ur edu. if u go abroad and start hating india...u r worse than animals...bcoz even they have a sense of morality and some loyalty in them.country should come first , always!! besides that...everyone abroad will look at u as an indian and not one of them...not even ur so called muslim brothers from saudi and other gulf countries....do u knw how they treat indian muslims???
RE:One simple question
by abdul baqi on Sep 17, 2007 04:20 PM Permalink
i studied in some book that hindus lose there caste or religion if they travel outside the country so do they wanna sacrifice country or religion they have no choice.thats why they say back and dance like this.
RE:One simple question
by HumBoley on Sep 17, 2007 01:23 PM Permalink
Yaar without the religion they cant servive in the MASS, and they will keep on fooling the people on the name of religion to have the high stake in the government..... its the people should decide before giving the vote to these politicians....... One more thing its very easy to rule il-literate pepople then Litrate one.... These politicians target Villages... dats why these guys never give long speech in the big towns.. they always go to the village !! as they know their Level.
RE:One simple question
by Mohd Khan on Sep 17, 2007 01:25 PM Permalink
Dear Suresh, What comes first for you, Your father or your mother? Stop asking such idiotic and much repeated grunts which has bombarded muslims continously for the last 50-60 years. This is not a race, first or second! Some things are mutually exclusive, they have their own reverence and respect, and none being less than the other, like your father and mother, like your country and your religion, Get it in your head now! and give us a break!
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by pankaj kumar on Sep 17, 2007 01:37 PM Permalink
for hindus nation first and religion last. For others religion is first and last.
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by Anurag Shrivastava on Sep 17, 2007 01:43 PM Permalink
Well Mohd Khan - please answer this question else others will answer it for you. And when they answer it for you - don't cry. If nation is not #1 for you - then you are a traitor - plain and simple. Got it ..
RE:One simple question
by mohammed uddin on Sep 17, 2007 01:50 PM Permalink
I see many indian go to other country for various purpose. Given an option most of we IT professional will go to western countries.
Then how can be loyal to country who say country first. Will you leave your religion like this ?
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by Anurag Shrivastava on Sep 17, 2007 02:02 PM Permalink
Of course - if it comes to national security -Hindus and Sikhs will give up every tenet of their religion. I have religious Sikh friends in Army who cut their hair , got circumcised, ate beef and lived with Jehadis in Kashmir resulting in huge catches. This is how Kashmir is still with us and terrorism is down. And mind it - these guys voluntarily chose to do what they had to do. This is just an example. I also know of lot of muslims who are as dedicated to the nation. This question was to you and not to muslims in general. You have failed the test.
RE:One simple question
by Anurag Shrivastava on Sep 17, 2007 06:48 PM Permalink
Yes - Hindus who take up nationality of other nations are no longer Indians. We expect them and want them to be loyal to countries they are citizens of in because that is their Dharma. We will not feel sad that in their line of duty they have to act against India because Gita tells us to do our duty even if you have to act against your brothers. Do you have your answer now ?
You are talking all this bull crap of internationalism because you know you personally have no loyalty to India.
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by Human Indian on Sep 17, 2007 04:22 PM Permalink
So Hindus who took nationality of other countries should be called Traitors? The Whole thing is that God / Bhgwan / Allha / has created Universe / Brhmma/ Alam and the boundries are created by selfish humans for their own benefits..look at the no of states we have now and how many we had in 1950..all want to become a C.M. and look this country..so help / love fellow humans the way u do it for u r brothers and sisters..And God will help u..
RE:One simple question
by Anurag Shrivastava on Sep 17, 2007 01:19 PM Permalink
Hey Suresh ... you must ask this to BJP and RSS first .... after Ram Sethu incident , you must not be asking such silly questions.
RE:One simple question
by a a on Sep 17, 2007 01:23 PM Permalink
Hm. If you were to ask them "Nation" or "Ram Sethu" - I guess they would go for "Nation". And by the way "Ram Sethu Incident" - what do you mean by Incident? Aren't these organizations taking up the Hindu cause? Would you take up the Hindu cause?
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by Anurag Shrivastava on Sep 17, 2007 01:29 PM Permalink
No - I will take up only cause of Indians - poor , sick and downtrodden. In this country - no other issue is of any interest to me. Anything else is waste of my life and this nation's priority.
RE:One simple question
by k kumar on Sep 17, 2007 04:00 PM Permalink
Here comes Pope John Pauls Indian version!! Growup man... Donate your huose and salary... Do you know the insane level of taxation and the taxpayers thats going down the drain due to such an attitude.. Dude you are crazy..
RE:One simple question
by Anurag Shrivastava on Sep 17, 2007 01:53 PM Permalink
I don't wish to answer issues related to what muslims would in a hypothetical situation...because I don't want to pay the price every muslim pays in their daily lives for the action of fanatics across the world. Hope that answers.
As far as media is concerned - I trust the ENglish language channels including CNNIBN and NDTV. Thats my personal choice and no amount of "facts" showing ownership by Martians , Pymies , Vatican and leperchauns is going to chang that.
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by Anurag Shrivastava on Sep 17, 2007 01:40 PM Permalink
Point well taken. BJP MPs must present this data in all newspapers ; raise this in question hour and ensure that those responsible give justification. And if they don't - make a hungama around it. They won't because they started the project.
Making a tamasha on the streets only helps lumpens of Bajrang Dal highjack the issue.
RE:One simple question
by Anurag Shrivastava on Sep 17, 2007 01:38 PM Permalink
well - best way is to donate to various charities ( secular , non religious ones ) and I do that. I have a business to run and money to make which enables me to do that.
RE:One simple question
by Anurag Shrivastava on Sep 17, 2007 01:33 PM Permalink
I suppose our leadership - Vajpayee , Jawant and later Manmohan and chidu would have done that - they know their job and they are very good at it and they are paid to do it. That is not the point ......
RE:One simple question
by Anurag Shrivastava on Sep 17, 2007 01:25 PM Permalink
I am asking you - country or religion - don't say both when it comes to crunch....I am very clear - for me country is #1 priority to #100 priority NO IFFs and NO BUTs
RE:One simple question
by pradeep kumar on Sep 17, 2007 01:42 PM Permalink
Have u seen one? An honest answer has to be NO, because U didn't get even the name of the project correct.
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by Nation on Sep 17, 2007 02:06 PM Permalink
Abhinav , don't argue with so called secularist, that idiot might be a converted covert , don't waste u r time
RE:One simple question
by Anurag Shrivastava on Sep 17, 2007 02:21 PM Permalink
Jagadish - Religion is the least important thing on my life. Hope you learn some manners and stop typing in all caps and answer a question with a question.
