Let the people of the nation rise against the anti national congress, who are compromising with the security of the country... allowing Christian conversions, terrorist movements, and now selling the national policies to US in the name of treaty... Is Abdul Kalam a dumb person to declare that we can very well do with Thorium and dealing for Uranium is not required... It seems Congress leaders are more Scientific than Kalam, more intelligent than Vivekanand and more secular than Mahatma Gandhi who lived with the chant of 'Rama'... Security of the nation comes first.. whithout which all progress would fail..
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by Krishna Prasath on Oct 30, 2007 07:58 PM Permalink
Your argument does not hold water. Thorium technology if independently developed is around 20 years away, and Uranium if you don't mind do a search it will let you know the current mine(product quality) and the uranium deposits in Karnataka and Meghalaya are out of reach due to stupid politics in that case how do you satisfy the energy requirement?
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by Chanchal Malviya on Oct 30, 2007 08:07 PM Permalink
I agree that stupid politics have overlooked the Uranium store in our country... But how has this handshaking with US taken shape suddenly.. I know one thing, if you and me were scientists, then Kalam is a stupid person to make a call on our own made energy... A professor scientist from B'lore calls to save half an hour common electic supply and we earn more than we buy from US... No one has capacity to sacrifice... Just the easy way to get things.. Can't we hold our intellectuals to develop parallel technologies within the nation... 60 years after independence, a country with highest population and best intelligence is not even a developed nation - who is faulty - the leaders who ruled the most, of course - and if we do not rise now, another 60 years would be again a waste.. fighting to get some grace from outside...
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by vinamra singhai on Oct 30, 2007 09:04 PM Permalink
"But how has this handshaking with US taken shape suddenly."---as noone else is there to shake hand with us ..no countries or neighbour like us...and there is noone left to shake hand with...and it's not suddenly...US used to fund gains in India after independence,,funded IIT-Knaput...Tarapur Reactor, Funded Green Revolution...Giving a N-Deal without we being a reliable country ...and what about the net you are using...
otherss line are bogus..just propose something ...then simply opposing for the sake of opposing..
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by Krishna Prasath on Oct 30, 2007 09:04 PM Permalink
Chanchal Malviya, I always wanted to avoid third persons in the post, but i have to do it now, Kalam is a scientist but you and me are not stupid either, as a mater of fact we are still to make a 1000MV n-reactor, do you know that? if that is the case how come our people over night will build thorium based reactors? I will tell you a simple example, i work on Fuel Cell based power production, and there is no Fuel Cell available for purchase in India let alone indigenously manufacture it, but if you take a very famous college (i don't to do name calling) they for the past 10 years they are doing research and claim they will build it in a year or 2(for the past 5 years) but still I(or anyone)yet to see at lest a full research product from them. If this is the sorry state of research in very famous college, I don't understand how we will be able fulfill the power requirement with such a poor R&D infrastructure?
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by raj on Oct 30, 2007 07:55 PM Permalink
Chanchal Malviya How come people like you did say when we singed friendship treaty with the sovietunion. They controlled our foregin policies and defence back in Mrs.Gandhi's days.What about the Communists of India. They openly supported China when that country invaded India. When did US invaded India? US is a free and democratic nation like India. Security of the nation needs stong friends and allies. Not the weak and back stabbers.
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by vinamra singhai on Oct 30, 2007 07:44 PM Permalink
how congress is compromising with the security of the country?...
Allowing christian conversion -- religion is a private affair..and we are democratic and secular ....conversion is allowed..
terrorist movements -- how you can stop it..do you think if we provide you 100 crore people security you would be safe?..
what national policies are being sold in the name od treaty?
we would be well of with thorium...but where is thorium technology?...
"It seems Congress leaders are more Scientific than Kalam, more intelligent than Vivekanand and more secular than Mahatma Gandhi who lived with the chant of 'Rama'" --- thats's irrational, unscientific and a dump line...
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by Indian Indian on Oct 30, 2007 08:43 PM Permalink
-If religious conversion is private affair, christians should not disturb Hindus. Your freedom ends where my nose begins. But, with respect to Christian conversions, they keep breaking the Hindu noses, and call it freedom? Why shoud Christian missionaries keep reaching all vulnerable people and converting them by using the poverty, etc. Why should Christians kill Hindus for refusing to convert? (Type "Goa Inquisition" into Google and you would know how barbaric Christians can be for conversion purposes whenever possible; By the way, Goa Inquisition information is removed from all the text books in India; so, the only source now is Internet)
-Terrorist movements: You stop it my arresting and convicting the criminal. But, Congress encourages terrorism just because they are muslims. Example, Congress repealed POTA, signalling to Muslim terrorists that they would be better off, with Sonia/Congress. Next, Sonia/Congress ensure that the person who plotted to kill our parliamentarians is protected, just because he is a Muslim (Yes, I am talking about Afzal Guru). I can give 101 things done by Sonia/Congress to give out messages to Muslims that their terrorism is subtly encouraged for getting their votes
-National policies sold: Several. Prominent one is India is "expected" to vote against Iran. Why the hell should the US tell us this? Because, the US wants to warn that any "wrong" vote will mean stoppage of fuel -We do have enough thorium tech to develop power
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by Chanchal Malviya on Oct 30, 2007 08:19 PM Permalink
terrorist movement - if you do not know how to stop it, then no need to lead the nation.. there are people who are doing everything to stop it... Gujarat has stopped it, for your information - and Congress is doing everything to ensure that Gujarat, the richest state of the nation should become one of the victims of Terrorists organizations... You will not understand..because you live in the arrogance of western literacy.. For you Kashmir is never an issue, as Hindus die there, Godhra is never an issue as Hindus die there, but Riot following Godhra will always be an issue - because Muslims died there... The day will come, when your Children would see more Kashmirs around and the look for Visa to some country where this is not happening...
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by vinamra singhai on Oct 30, 2007 08:52 PM Permalink
I don't remember when gujarat was having a terrorust movement...there is no terrorism in MP, rajasthan, adaman , daman, pondichery...
"Congress is doing everything to ensure that Gujarat, the richest state of the nation should become one of the victims of Terrorists organizations." -- can you prove this statement in court...
"For you Kashmir is never an issue, as Hindus die there, Godhra is never an issue as Hindus die there, but Riot following Godhra will always be an issue - because Muslims died there" -- why you keep on hallunuciatig things..when I said that...
"The day will come, when your Children would see more Kashmirs around and the look for Visa to some country where this is not happening" -- again your words and not practical stuff
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by Chanchal Malviya on Oct 30, 2007 08:01 PM Permalink
Allowing christian conversion - so it becomes private affair - can this privacy be applied same on christians and Muslims - do christian apply the same on christians - and who drives a human values - religion or politics - religion touches every home - politics touches shrewed and cunning people alone
Terrorist movement - so 100 crore people cannot have security, thus let them die... let the terrorist get in.. great thinking
Why isnt't the effort to upbring thorium technology? Are we do dumb, when a scientist leader is making a call to do it
My statements are not dump.. Your reasoning are.. please think again
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by vinamra singhai on Oct 30, 2007 08:48 PM Permalink
"Allowing christian conversion - so it becomes private affair - can this privacy be applied same on christians and Muslims - do christian apply the same on christians" -- I don't know what do you mean..a government has nothing to do with a religion...it's a secular ...
"Terrorist movement - so 100 crore people cannot have security, thus let them die... let the terrorist get in.. great thinking" --- your words not mine...
"Why isnt't the effort to upbring thorium technology? "--- it's still in the nascent stage will get compelte by around 2050 AD....
"Are we do dumb, when a scientist leader is making a call to do it" ---- I know about myself..you decide whether you are dumb or not..whatever yoou have said is hollow..all illusion...
"religion touches every home" -- not true in this world around 20% are atheist..
