Rice is pushing an ambiguous agreement upon which problems are bound to occure later on when Rice is long gone.
US is doing best to suck India into a tricky N-deal,which would enslave India.
US is intensifying the pressure on India from all quarters , even though there is no obligation on India to buy.
Can you imagin what US will do once US gets India's signature on the sign N-deal.India will not have a prayer.Don't sign your freedom away. India has done business with Russians for 60 years. I don't understand why India does not consider buying civilian nuclear technology from Russia instead ?
RE:Tell USA To Go Pound Salt
by acommentor on Oct 30, 2007 09:57 AM Permalink
Yes, the nuclear '123' deal is very fishy. Most rediff and other readers don't know anything about the subject (I too don't know much of it, I'm a civil engineer) but go on barking to 'hang commies', to 'go on the progressive path by shaking hands with USA' and that the 'Communists receive commands from China', etc. What is the most important thing is to achieve self sustenance if not now in the near future. The very point (apart from scientific issues) that Rice, NRIs, George W. Bush... stand in the queue to convince India to say yes to the deal can be point of suspicion. I think India will go ahead with 123 agreement since people are fools.
RE:Tell USA To Go Pound Salt
by Krishna Prasath on Oct 30, 2007 04:10 PM Permalink
How do you know others don't know anything about n-deal? as you have said you yourself don't know it well then how come you comment on others?
RE:Tell USA To Go Pound Salt
by Krishna Prasath on Oct 30, 2007 08:04 AM Permalink
Russia clearly said it need NSG approval for further reactors, if we want NSG approval how will be getting it? can you think of a solution? I don't think you will come up with one as you did not understand it fully, if this deal goes though we will get the NSG approval with USA backing it, then even if USA backs out we will have France, Russia to help us out but if this deal is not through be ready to suffer.
RE:Tell USA To Go Pound Salt
by Jehan Mir on Oct 30, 2007 11:13 AM Permalink
If Russia is willing to sell nuclear plants and tecnology,which they would love to for cash money,NSG is not going to be a problem per se. All NSG is concerned is to make sure that IAEC guidelines are met. This can be accomplished by separating civilian from military nuclear technologies ,so civilan nuclear fuel is not diverted for military applications,as inked in the 123 agreement. Then the obvious question arises why not to go with the 123 agreement. The answer is simple,USA is not a trustworthy,reliable,reputable country with good intentions to do business with.
RE:Tell USA To Go Pound Salt
by Krishna Prasath on Oct 30, 2007 03:11 PM Permalink
Do you know why the Koodankulam project's expansion is on hold? do you know how much threat they faced when they went ahead with deal? for your info "Russia contends that the Koodankulam deal was originally signed in 1988 and is therefore not subject to the 1992 NSG guidelines" if you want you can see R. Adam Moody article titled , "The Indian-Russian Light Water Reactor Deal," The Nonproliferation Review, Fall 1997, pp. 112-122.
USA is not as reliable as Russia, but when this agreement gets through we can get the technology, equipment and so on from others like Russia, France because when we get the go from NSG we will be able to sigh agreement with others. do you think at-least for this to happen we got to go ahead with the deal with USA?
RE:Tell USA To Go Pound Salt
by BHASKARAN GANESHAN on Oct 30, 2007 08:19 AM Permalink
INdia is in a dilemma. We are loser either way. If we let go the deal then there are certain ways to look about it and say it is lost. If we accept it we would enslave ourselves to Americans and Americans precisely wants us to be in such a situation. So either way we are losing.
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by savior on Oct 30, 2007 08:25 AM Permalink
Any deal envisages something which we should be prepared to lose in order to gain something, that is the art of negotiation. Of course we should not compromise on key points and we have not compromised on the keypoints on this deal. US is pretty much breaking up NPT in this deal ? Don't you think they are compromising too ? It is a win-win situation for both India and US. Do you want a free lunch ?
