Let us remember the words of wisdom of the Bible: Man is made in the image & likeness of God. Man is the APEX of Gods creation. Man can think, reason, choose, create, feel, go beyond the thralldom of nature, touch the skies & plumb the ocean. There is ONE most important thing to be understood: One man HAS NO RIGHT TO COMPARE THE LIFE OF ANOTHER HUMAN BEING TO THAT OF A BEAST. Man enjoys such an exalted status in Gods creation, that despite his *sinfulness*, God does not hesitate to incarnate in the form of Man. While love for animals is good, let us make it very clear that THE IDENTITY OF EACH & EVERY ONE OF US, THE VERY EXISTENCE OF EACH & EVERY ONE OF US, DEPENDS ON THAT OF OTHER HUMAN BEINGS, NOT STRAY DOGS. By debasing the value of human life & repeatedly comparing it with that of animal life, animal-lovers are infact militating against human life & happiness & freedom itself. The notion of *balance of nature* is a misnomer: it simply is not true. You will never find stray dogs roaming & marauding the streets of ANY European or American or ANY developed country: they ALL enjoy a much healthier, safe & peaceful life. Our EXISTENCE & IDENTITY depends on HUMAN BEINGS, not stray dogs: there is not a single person in this world, who can live without OTHER HUMAN BEINGS: but each & every one of us can live without stray-dogs. The total elimination of stray canines in the developed world shows that human life IMPROVES when these source of pollution are eliminated. Remember that more than 40,000 people die EVERY YEAR out of rabies in India, whereas western nations have attained a fully rabies-free society. People dying out of rabies in UNHEARD of, in developed nations. We cannot allow STRAY DOGS to kill our children in the name of miscreants & criminals: in principle, miscreants & criminals & mad people are imprisoned, restrained, stopped, punished, hospitalized, & segregated from society. A stray dog is an absolutely unthinking, whimsical, amoral, unpredictable & dangerous BRUTE. They are NOT trained, they cannot be restrained, made to see reason, tamed, or stopped. We cannot allow them to damage the lives of OUR children, perfectly innocent & harmless, & destroy our lives. AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK ONE QUESTION TO EVERY ANIMAL LOVER: WHAT IF THE CHILD MAULED, MUTILTAED AND/OR KILLED BY STRAY DOGS WOULD BE **YOUR** CHILD, **YOUR** SON or DAUGHTER, **YOUR** AGED PARENTS who cannot protect themselves??
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by on Mar 16, 2007 08:45 AM Permalink
this is vj 1st things 1st.After reading what Buddhadev Ker has writtin about this whole issue its evident that his claims are based on either abhorent feelings towards stray dogs or just hidden paranoia.Whatever it may be, let me claim that im not an animal lover. But neither am i penchant towards the mindless killings of stray dogs.Such macabre actions only bring light to the stupidity of govt. officials and the senseless phobias of the human kind.Buddhadev writes about 40000 ppl dieing every year of dog bites. He convinently forgot to mention about the lakhs of ppl dieing due to the mindless quest of dominence by man.He convinently forgot to mention the morbid idea of jihad taking place in india. Ill gladly answer your question..if my family member would have been mutilated by a stray dog i wouldnt go around the whole state or country decimating every stray dog i see on the road.As i said before, im not an animal lover, im an advocate of sensibility, so i would definitly do something about that perticular dog.Now i ask you a question..if ur mum,dad or sibling was killed by a man on the street would you go around the whole country hacking peoples head off????..thats how childish and incredulous your claim sounds Buddhadev. Peace.
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by anirudh on Mar 17, 2007 05:06 PM Permalink
next time you dear ignorant brothers try to insult someone far superior in sensibility than u ..... do it with some sense. If u have mustard up enough courage to argue again, then do it in an ethical way. If u are going to swear,then I cant read your feable attempts of redemption. Cause ur reply'll be deleted. Better luck next time.
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by Buddhadev Kar on Mar 18, 2007 04:51 PM Permalink
What makes you think that someone has tried to REDEEM himself/herself, eh?? The point is, nobody is going to waste his time arguing with you. Not me, at least. It's as simple as that. If you HAVE NOT found the answer in my/our replies, then there is nothing more to be said. One cannot REASON with crass IRRATIONALITY. There are people who THINK. We need thinking people. As for courage, don't gratify yourself with the notion that you have scared people, or out-witted them, or convinced anyone of anything, or proved your point. You have merely been digging the grave of your own cause by writing what you write. You can continue amusing yourself with your idle threats & self-glorification. Nobody is interested. Day-dreaming is often quite pleasant.
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by Kishore on Mar 26, 2007 02:26 AM Permalink
whatever is going on here??? sme kinda personal battl betwn this buddhdev guy & d others? whoever is this rohit, hum?? that buddhadev chap got overboard, but he is right basically. actually it is you, rohit & your dear chummies, who 've not been abl to refute a single point of anybody who thinks diffrntly dan u. waaah! dogs have a greater right to roam our streets 'cause they came before us??? what kinda lunacy is that, bro?? dogs r sick 'cause of dirty drains?? Halloa!! there ain't no open drains in my area. yet dere are 9 dogs all the same all d time!!! & do they eat all the mice! not one, misters!! takin' all d people here, dere r at least 10 reasons y u oughta do away with the stray dogs. maybe slowly. maybe using more thoughtful wayz. but all ye can say is dat people r bad!!o so bad!! poor 'n' helpless critters? seen the way they maul 'n bite 'n crippl each other? the mess they make, sires? no differnt from hearing people being branded or mutilated or murderd on da streets! their screams r awful. all day 'n all nite! 'n v 've to hear them day after day 'cause of u guys, who just sit tight 'n' pass laws dat ain't of no use to society or the doggies! whatdya guyz want? reign of d doggie? do ya wanna let doggie inherit the earth? who can possibly "reply" to such nonsense??? d dogs dont wantya, bro rohit. dey r worse off dan bfore. methinks der lives were more peaceful wen dere were just a few. no one can ans yar or ur chummy's qustns, dearie, 'cause dey dont make sense! smebody has replied to u, no body else wud bother! dats y dere r no replies to ur chummies, bro rohit! 'n its not as if u guyz don't abuse others! da first thing u chums do is to tell da guy who ain't agrreeing with ya dat he oughta die or ye guyz'll murder him. gentlemen really!!
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by on Jun 18, 2007 11:47 PM Permalink
hey....kishore...are you buddadev's driver or somethin??sticking up for him like he's ur ward..dere arnt any open drains in your area??well maybe u better smell your house a little better....it must be a drain on its own...why is it the dogs job to clean off the mice??you with ur macabre ideas wud be perfect for the job.if you think wat u've writen is nonchalance,then im afraid your imbalanced...rohits chummies(what a word to use??)..have ideas beyond ur reasoning capacity...so better luck next time....the reason you saw fewer dogs earlier is becuz they had their own secluded place to live...not becuz they've had an overdose of viagra nd started to breed like theres no tomorow..(thats what humans do remember??6 billion is our population...we were 1.2 billn in the 19th century..did ur thick skull get dat in or do u need any more hints??)now dat we've expanded our concrete jungle into their terrain..they appear more to us..rohit's started to seem more rational by the second hasnt he?so you either budge up 4 other species to live....or live wit dem....no option c....if you havnt noticed..animal lovers have been heard above you antagonists...the culling has stopped nd now let the 'reign of the doggie' begin...as for our gentlemanliness,you'll find that silencing ppl like you is the most "gentlemanly".thing we can do..
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by anirudh on Mar 20, 2007 10:10 PM Permalink
Thanks for the tears of laughter you've provided me with.'im not going to waste my time arguing with you'You say that and you end up replying.Having been comprehensively subjugated to mockery amongst everyone i know who's read your replies,it doesnt take a genious to think that you have to redeem yourself.You call my statements irrational...you havnt said a word to counter any of my statments.So if "irrationality" is beyond your benchmark of arguements,then i wonder what you would do if someone actually gave you a "rational" reply.Also,if you are people who "think",then you've hidden that particular ability with compassionate adroitness.and i am not a business-man to advertise my views with my street dog mascots.I'v merely stated the aphothegm.My desire is not to broadcast my views...but merely to silence all nature's antagonists.(such as yourself).If you havn't noticed the tide of things,people seem to be vouching for the dogs,not for you... p.s:Day dreaming, is for redundant,unemployed people.If you think it's 'quite pleasant',well....
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by rohit on Mar 23, 2007 09:01 AM Permalink
hmm.. so this is all u can do buddhadev....??!swear..??! half the posts in rediff are removed due to abuse alerts an i'm guessin they're all yours......!c everyone realises anirudh and vish have outsmarted u probably in every post adressed to u... so u just take to abusing them huh??!that is so unlike "humans" aint it???!an u no what??! anirudh aint diggin da grave of his own cause... he's diggin a grave for da cause of ppl like u an yer bro...cuz these r da guys who like fightin for da cause of those creatures less fortunate than us rather than fight for humans...trust me.. i no dem.. u r definately not a match fer either .. so come on.. u got some guts fight with points. not mere swear words.. or else just go find some one else who's interested in readin yer wonderful"words of wisdom.."..cuz v definately aren't..an v jus get pleasure in laughin at those prepostrous ideas of yours which r never gonna b implemented...v'll make sure they don't.
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by on Mar 09, 2007 12:23 AM Permalink
this is anirudh who was here 1st?humans or dogs?if ignorance is ur ally, then let me tell you that dogs were...they hav more rights 2 roam the streets than us..we are enccroaching upon their terrain...1 of the biggest debacles of god's history is His invention of humans...this top predator is taking over..using all the other creatures..and disposing of them when ever he wants...the balance of nature is totally capsised becoz of human intervention... for ur kind information,the bible was written almost 2 thousand years ago...when the state of affairs was completely different from the catastrophical condition currently...it would be foolishness to it's very epitome to compare these 2 periods... when you say 40,000 ppl die from rabies, what about the 150,000 that die of human homicidal cases?? if ur groundless logic is taken into account, then ALL THE DOMESTIC SERVANTS IN INDIA SHOULD BE TERMINATED because of the cases of brutal gory in south delhi(of ur very own children..)a dog getting infected by rabies itself is a consequence of a culmination of human's impertinance..when he leaves the abhorrent drains uncared for...and the rats get infected and the dogs are impregnated by the virus that's responsible for driving the dogs 2 insanity...how can we blame the innocent and naive creatures for a fault of our own..in fact we should be convicted 4 infecting dogs as well as humans... I am an animal lover for the ages..and i will answer ur question gladly...if my realativ is "mauled" by an innocent creature that's possesed by the ghost of man's repugnant recklessness..then i will search down the human/s responsible,,i am not being rhetorical or stereotypica...i mean it that the human responsible will b pulverized....even if the felon is myself.... u also say that a dog is amoral..u also mention that only humans have the 6th sense...morality is juxtaposed with the 6th sense...so dont spout ur jargans..think before you ink...we have been gifted by the 6th sense...i suggest we use it for progress,not perverse dominance...
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by anirudh on Mar 15, 2007 01:03 AM Permalink
In your reply,you have proven to be the prime threat of nature.I am an animal lover.My first ally.As it should be everyone's,is nature.If you call me a paranoid jerk,i call you a sadistic, obstinate moron.The matter of your 'innocent life' is a laughing matter.While i have answered all your questions,you have been too cowardly to answer even 1.What about the domestic servants??Will you KILL THEM? If you cannot tolerate the REAL innocent creatures of this planet,then like the other 90000 suicidal cases this year, jump on the band wagon.For your information,9 times out of 10,you are lying down bleeding,because of another human being,not a stray dog.In your lust and quest for domination and power over the universal mother(nature), profligates such as yourselves have wiped out the only living space left for the animals.They were here first.Who the hell are you, having invaded upon their land,to say that the place belongs to you?Human's procrastinated dominace is obnoxious.If you are in a rented house,do you say that the house is yours after living in it for a long time?Now that humans have come into existence,they can live in their allocated space...as long as it doesnt disrupt the symbiant circle of life.As for all these materialstic luxuries you speak of,they are of least pertinance to me.If you think these are at the top of the totem pole,then embrace them for life,dont venture out into the streets,provoke dogs,and peevishly proclaim your bite in public.If the earth stinks now,its because of people like you who reek of sadism.You think its the dogs who reek...well its time you smelt yourself a bit more carefully.We have 6 billion humans on this planet.Multiplying carelessly,we are diverting from our purpose on this planet.Every creature was made for a cause,eventually to drive the circle of life in any slight way.We are the only asinine creatures that are diverting so intolerably.This makes even the insects(What you call pests)more responsible than humans.Our mother cannot feel the loss of two humans because humans have become so stone hearted towards her..that she now,thinks that we are in-animate.Society, an entity coined by humans,itself is a curse to nature.Soceity is the recidivist behind all the poverty in this world.Misfits like you,are the prime catsers of this curse.Why would i want to be a part of society when it has delinquents like you?My fitness of living amidst humans aside,the question is;are humans fit to live amidst animals??Go spill you vomit-like infatuation of your fellow species in a forum of terrorists, or wars,where the real damage to humans is occuring.Make sure your family flushes their toilet before you check on your neigbors.Being so vanely incompetent to co-exist amongst themselves(reffering to the copious amount of terrorism and the incessant wars),how can you expect humans to exist amongst other species?I think i am expecting too much of you.It is useless to fulminate as you are subdued by the limitations of you kind.And if you are labouring under the delusion that you've insulted me by placing me in the canine category, then im afraid you're gravely mistaken.It's the biggest compliment you've given me.If you are too spineless, dastardly, and pusillanimous to step out of your house, then you are surely impeded by a phobia.You can hardly expect us, SANE dog lovers to take the dogs in our houses built on unfettered land.Neither can we pay for your appointment with the psycologist which is long overdue....
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by Buddhadev Kar on Mar 11, 2007 05:17 PM Permalink
Have given the above opinion along with my cousin Buddhadev Kar. He wants his name to be added.
