RE:Reply to Ibrahim Sheik
by Vinay Gupta on Jun 24, 2007 12:17 PM Permalink
Acutally Islam divides the world between BELIEVERS and Non Believers. And definition is very interesting. You may be believer in GOD but if donot believe Mohmud as the prophet you are considered non believer i.e. Kafir.
This very dangerous way of thinking.
Second , Islam talk of BROTHER HOOD among muslims only ( thouh it also doesnot exists) . No where it talk of Universal Brother hood.
RE:Reply to Ibrahim Sheik
by Ibrahim Sheik on Jun 24, 2007 12:24 PM Permalink
1) The Final speech of Prophet Mohammed is the essence of Islam.. In this speech the Prophet says "All the People of the World are from one Parents Adam and Eve, All are equal like the Teeth of the Corn, An Arab is no Superior to Niger. So the basic Fundamental of Islam is Equality.. There is no concept of Rascism or Arabic Imperialism in Koran.
RE:Reply to Ibrahim Sheik
by Sameer on Jun 24, 2007 12:37 PM Permalink
It is a perfect religion, some muslims might be wrong dont look at them. In Islam killing of innocent is not allowed, so bomb blast killing innocent persons is not allowed and not written anywhere in Quran, these are misguided terrorist.
RE:Reply to Ibrahim Sheik
by Ibrahim Sheik on Jun 24, 2007 12:10 PM Permalink
"BEGGARS SAY THAT 'I DONT WANT TO BECOME RICH", similarly Impotents like you who don't have stuff to Convince a Muslim say that "No one wants to convert Muslims into other religions"
The TRUTH is even a Small Muslim Boy is very clear of SPIRITUAL definitions, it is higly impossible to convert an Ignorant Muslim also... There are a lot of Hindu Saints in India who talk about Yoga & Life Style or Whatever, but nobody has the Charisma or Magnetism to hold people in Hinduism... That's why Thousands of Hindus are leaving Hinduism... But for the past 30 years of my life I have never seen a Convincing debate from a Hindu Expert to justify the Truth in Hindusim.. I think Hinduism lacks Focus and confuses its followers... That's why people go away from Hinduism, very very few of them leave Islam
RE:Reply to Ibrahim Sheik
by Ibrahim Sheik on Jun 24, 2007 12:12 PM Permalink
If you want the answers for your questions first answer these
1) Why there is a caste system in Hinduism, why Shudras are considered Inferior to a Animal (cow)
2) Havent you ever seen the SLUMS in your place, why you live Happily and LOw caste Hindus Live Unclean, Dont take a Bath, Drink Daily and hit their Wife and create Street Fights
3) Why all the SLUMS Stink and they are your Hindu Brothers, why you dont take a effort to clean your Community before Commenting on Us..
4) Why 98 % of the Prostititues in India are Hindus, does Kamasutra Promotes Prostitution
5) 95 % of Politicians & Govt Officers in this Country are Hindus, why are they corrupted...
6) Why they kill Muslim criminals in Encounrter and real criminals rule the Assembly ??
If you have answers for this, then you can ask me...I have all the answers for your Questions.. Go on Please
RE:RE:Reply to Ibrahim Sheik
by Samrat Das on Jun 24, 2007 12:57 PM Permalink
Dear Ibrahim Sheik I doubt at your statistic. I belong to lower caste, this thing never happen in my family. You can't genaralise one event with all other. To question abt hindu religion you have to know it . First cow is treated as god is hindu religion not a fellow animal. If you say about corruption in hindu people then I will ask you one thing take an account of terroism in India you will get more than 90% is muslim . I am not here to put finger on any body. Everyone has his own reason to choose his religion. There is superstition in the name of religion but if you want to avoid that you have to be educated enough. I don't no what raise the topic but for better prospect for our country we have to learn . That our first identity is we are Indian then hindu or muslim.
RE:Reply to Ibrahim Sheik
by FAPS on Jun 24, 2007 12:47 PM Permalink
Nobody is saying that Hinduism is without faults. However, it is the most open religion that exists. You are right in saying that there is a significant gap between THEORY and PRACTICE. But in Islam the THEORY itself is flawed.
Now let's answer some of your questions:
1) every religion has issues and the caste system has been a big black mark on Hindu society. Majority of the population realizes that and great strides have been made to uplift the so-called lower castes. Things like this don't change overnight, but atleast the will is there.
2) Your observation is correct. However, it is not the religion that is condoning this behaviour, but abject poverty and lack of education. On the other hand in the Koran, it is clearly stated that if a woman doesn't heed to the desires of a man, she may be beaten. However, she should not be beaten as hard as a slave but enough that she remembers to never go against the man's wishes again.
3) We are trying to clean up our act by holding democratic elections where everyone has a voice. Unfortunately there is still a lot of ground to cover but atleast the foundation has been laid. Majority of the muslim nations don't offer this basic right to their population.
4) 98% of the people who have ever had a headache have eaten apples. Does that mean that apples cause headaches. I fail to understand your logic. You think that prostitution is simply a Hindu problem. Ever heard of "MUTA" or temporary marriage in Islam? Is
RE:RE:Reply to Ibrahim Sheik
by hello on Jun 24, 2007 02:15 PM Permalink
ibrahim tell me one answer..why there exsts honour killing in mulla countries?
RE:Reply to Ibrahim Sheik
by Pasha Patel on Jun 24, 2007 12:30 PM Permalink
Reply to Detective People with a very small knowledge of religion do speak like this. Certainly Islam is a Superior religion and out of jelousy, the Americans are trying their best to unnecessarily attack the innocents and when the innocents refute, they call them Terrorists. The Hindus with criminal minds search for opportunities to degrade the Muslim religion and never look into the defame of thier own religion and back Americans by calling Muslims as Terrorists forgetting the Naxals who are killing their own Hindu bretheren everyday for no harm done. Wake up and dont advise on this subject. Islam is always superiod religion and this is the religion which shows PEACE on every path. Muslim Women are just Free since you see only from outside Burkhas and not inside them. They are the most happy ones. I see gang rapes on TV Everyday for the girls not wearing Burkhas and my neighbour although Hindu, likes to be modest like Muslims and when goes out goes with her DUPATTA completely wrapped around her as a Muslim. What do you think in Rajasthan, most of the Hindu women do not show their faces to Men (relatives) and most protected from culprit acts. They are also living and letting their women live. We are also living and letting ive. You may be in the 19th century still. Overbreeding was not only in Muslims but was also in Hindus. My own neighbours had more than 7 to 8 children in each house those days Now Muslims and Hindus both have one or two children only.
RE:RE:Reply to Ibrahim Sheik
by Vinay Gupta on Jun 24, 2007 12:50 PM Permalink
Pasha, India is suffering this menance since 712 AD. Please read the history
RE:RE:Reply to Ibrahim Sheik
by FAPS on Jun 24, 2007 12:52 PM Permalink
What a joke!!
Religion of peace and Superior Religion in one breath. What if I don't believe in your superiority? I guess you will PEACEFULLY BEAT me into submission !!
See the light and covert back. If not Hinduism, try something else.
