If you want to judge how good is the latest model of the Mercedes car and a person who does not know how to drive sits at the steering wheel and bangs up the car who will you blame? The car or the driver? But naturally the driver. To analyze how good the car is a person should not look at the driver but see the ability and features of the car. How fast is it what is its average fuel consumption, what are the safety measures etc. Even if I agree for the sake of argument that the Muslims are bad and we cant judge Islam by its followers. If you want to judge how good Islam is then judge it according to its authentic sources that is the Glorious Quran and the Sahih Hadith.
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by nidhi dawesar on Jul 05, 2007 11:33 PM Permalink
nothings wrong with islam but people who are dragging it dawn by jihad and all holiwars are not doing good to its own religion. muslim comunity should stand up and boycott these jihadis and all those who are giving bad name to islam .
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by usman karim on Jul 05, 2007 11:49 PM Permalink
Dear Nidhi I am not totally against your thinking.But please try to understand on thing if tomorrow somebody occupy your house then what will you do?You will definitely fight.Similarly if enemy occupy holy land of Iraq,Palistine and Afganistan they are doing jehad.
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by nidhi dawesar on Jul 06, 2007 12:09 AM Permalink
mr. usman karim if any contry is treating my faiths people bad . i will not like them to go and kill innocent people on the name of my faith. yes they can fight for thier rights without killing innocent people. but not on my name. I DO AGREE THERE IS INJUSTICE IN THIS WORLD.
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by usman karim on Jul 06, 2007 01:07 AM Permalink
DEAR NIDHI 1.WHAT WOULD YOU TO DO YOUR PEOPLE IF SOMEBODY ATTACK THEM. 2.WILL YOU TELL THEM TO WEAR BANGLE ?
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by usman karim on Jul 06, 2007 12:09 AM Permalink
ALLAH AKBAR (ALLAH IS GREATEST OF ALL) DEAR JAI 1.THERE WERE THOUSANDS OF WAR FOUGHT AMOUNG INTER-RELIGIOUS PEOPLE,INTER-CAST PEOPLE ETC
EXAMPLE , WORLD WAR I AND WORLD WAR II WERE FOUGHT MOSTLY AMONGH CHRISTAIN
2.SOUTH AFRICA(CHRISTAIN) WAS UNDER SLAVERY BY NON OTHER THAN CHRISTAIN WHILE PEOPLE.
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by usman karim on Jul 05, 2007 11:58 PM Permalink
Allah Akbar Dear Bhuddha I can give you thousands of foolish argument to put across my point of view.But one thing you should understand that anythings popularity can be judged from the followers behind it. ISALM IS THE MOST POPULAR RELIGION OF THE WORLD CAN BE JUDGED FROM THIS ANGLE. 1.THIS RELIGION AND ITS FOLLOWS WILL BE FOUND IN EVERY NOOK AND CORNER OF THE WORLD.
2.THIS IS FASTER SPREADING RELIGION AROUND THE WORLD
4.MUSLIM ARE IN THE 2ND POSITION IN TERMS OF POPULATION IN USA, UK ,FRANCE, GERMANY,BELGIUM,NEWZELAND, CHINA , INDIA ,SOUTH AFRICA ETC . WHAT THIS SHOWS ? THIS SHOWS THE POPULARITY OF ISLAM EVEN IN THE ALIEN WORLD.
4.THERE 57 COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD RULED BY MUSLIM.
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by Subodh Sapre on Jul 06, 2007 12:30 AM Permalink
Don't judge the credentials of a religion by numbers. If this is the yardstic,then most of the criminals and the terrorists are muslim. It is not Islam which is spreading, but it is Islam which is spreading terrorism. My muslim brothers please wake up & make reforms or else the entire world will look upon Islam as a failed religion. General Musharraf seems to have realised it too late.
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by Rehan Khan on Jul 06, 2007 12:29 AM Permalink
Brother, let me make it clear to you that Quran does not teach us violence. It is the biggest misconception among the people around the world.
I can justify this with the verse of Quran Itself.
Holy Quran says that If someone kills another person ,unless it is in retaliation for someone else or for causing corruption in the earth , it is as if he had murdered all mankind. And if anyone saves another person, it is as if he had saved the whole of mankind. (Surat al-Ma'ida: 32)
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by saif kashmiri on Jul 05, 2007 11:44 PM Permalink
can you give details which books and translations u call authentic sourace of holy quran and sahih hadiths
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by qayoom hassan on Jul 06, 2007 12:10 AM Permalink
first ever compiled complete quran is present in turkey.it belongs to hazrat usman gani(R.A), the third caliph of islam. as fara s hadees is concerned, there are many books which date back to the time of companions of prophet muhammad(PBUH). i think u need to read books first, gather knowledge and then speak. ingorance is the root of all evil and due to yur ignorance u have fallen into the same.
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by Subodh Sapre on Jul 06, 2007 12:12 AM Permalink
Only 50 years ago muslims children in maharashtra used to study in Marathi which helped them to be part of the mainstream. Today they go Urdu schools, attend Madrssas get Arabic culture infused in their mind which alienate them from Indian culture. If Sri Lankan & Indian christians keep Indian names why can't Indian muslims keep Indian names. Being Indians, how many Indian muslims consider Vedas & hudreds of outstanding Sanskrit scriptures as their own treasure. But they cannot see anything beyond Koran which was created on forign land while Sanskrit scripture were created on our soil. Muslims must learn to respect their own Indian treasure and culture.
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by hiral joshi on Jul 06, 2007 12:27 AM Permalink
Wait for some more time. They shall have reservations, separate language, constitution rights too.
