violation of all the democratic rights of all citizens. People can't move freely, rowdies are out in full scale, public transport is shut, cable channels are closed, what the heck?
Bandh of any sort whould be banned at national level and the leaders of the organizations who call for bandh should be arrested and severely punished. They have no right to violate humman democratic rights. These people do not want any progress in the country and just try to divide people for their own good.
The normal people will realize only when the industries start moving out of this place or from the country itself.
Firstly I think Karan reflects his upbringing by the manner he has titled the mail....No need for any one of us to elaborate how cheap his mentality is...
Secondly he is obviously oblivious to the sufferings of the Kannadigas in terms of the huge injustice that has been caused to them...but why should a Northie @#$##% like Karan ever care???
My suggestion to fellow Kannadigas is to ignore idiotic messages like that of Karans and continue to demonstrate against injustice..
Please open up and think in a wider perspective. For once and for all please stop this Northie / Southie business and think as an Indian.
If people of Karnataka feel that there has been injustice towards them of any kind, then there are other ways of expressing their views and getting justice. But hating people from other states, hating other languages only alienates the people of Karnataka from other states. It really pains me when other states co-operate with each other and remain united whereas Karnataka always has some issues with its neighbours. I sincerely hope that these problema are sorted out and Karnataka becomes one of the friendliest states.
So please have a big heart and an open mind
For your information, I am a Kannadiga staying in Mumbai for the last 33 years and feel completely at home here. Like me there are lakhs of kannadigas in Mumbai who feel quite comfortable here.
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by Rationalist on Feb 12, 2007 02:23 PM Permalink
Kannadigas feel comfortable wherever they live just bcos they adopt very well & never act indifferently. But KA is already feeling alienated.It has always received step motherly treatement from the centre. Also KA to certain extent r themselves responsible for the kind of situation they find in themselves today with lack of devolpement in state with only B'lore receiving all the attn & other parts like North KA neglected.
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by Karan Thakur on Feb 12, 2007 10:01 AM Permalink
The title of my mail is for the upbringing of the people who call for bandh etc and for people like you who support them....what do you mean by northie, southie etc....aren't thes racist remarks? Remember, when shilpa shetty (who is kannadiga too) was facing the racist remarks, we all as INDIANs supported her with full force. is bangalore out of India? do you say, not even single person from karanataka working outside karanataka?
Think about it before you say any thing.
I really pity your mentality and wish that you grow!!
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by PRABHAKAR BV on Feb 12, 2007 10:08 AM Permalink
People are carried away by Politicans. This is not at all a Kannadiga issue. This is sharing of waters between farmers. Pl leave it like that. Accept the verdict. Obey law. Leave this chauvinistic attitude. Otherwise the journey of disintegration will not begin from Srinagar/Amritsar/Assam but only from Bangalore/Mysore/Mandya.
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by megha hegde on Feb 12, 2007 11:07 AM Permalink
Dear Mr. Prabhakar, you sound as if you have studied the issue very carefully....do u have any clue about the what the dispute is about? do u know why really the dispute arose...do not simply blame the kannadigas....get ur facts right first...
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by SRINIVASA GOWDA on Feb 12, 2007 11:07 AM Permalink
let me remind u that farmers of Karnataka are kannadighas as well. So we will stand by our people first then the rest of issues. So please dont get interfeared btw two families fight. We and TN and like family members and every family will have a problem. Even same family members wont help other when they themselves are in need of help. So logic states that better dont ask and try someother means. In the same way this Cauvery Water issue also is. For CAUVERY Kannadighas are emotionally attached. So we cant tolerate anyone forcing us to share water with them. thats the end. even what one was getting with also get stopped. so we will share only when we have sufficient Cauvery water, else sorry. Jai Cauvery Maathe, Jai Karnataka, Jai Hind
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by emmser edrtyu on Feb 12, 2007 12:28 PM Permalink
Your argument is flawed on several counts. I want to drawur attention to the Indus water traty betewwn Indian and Pakistan which has withstood despite 4 wars . As per International Law, the lower riparian state is entitled to claim rights over the river flowing through its area. It is not the upper riparian state arrogates to itself all the waters and treats the lower riparian state as some drainage outlet
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by debanjan banerjee on Feb 12, 2007 10:12 AM Permalink
i support u fully karan. And this idiot named sudhir,what do u mean by northie???dont pass racist remarks ,its not doing any good to u or ur state,it just tarnishes the image of ur state.No one is above the law and so u must abide by it .It will be better for u if u stop uttering sheer nonsense and refrain from using racist remarks. P.S : neither ami i a Tamil nor a Northie. I am an Indian,and thats my first and last identity.
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by Karan Thakur on Feb 12, 2007 10:25 AM Permalink
Thank you sir!! Great to see a real Indian's voice :)....Thats the attitude we all should carry when we represent country (Indian is my first and last identity)....wow man....I love your attitude!!
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by Sheeja Shyam on Feb 12, 2007 10:03 AM Permalink
It is absolutely true. Bandh of any sort should be dealt with seriously like once Shiv Sena had called for Bandh in Maharashtra leading to loss of crores of rupees but they were imposed heavy charges after 3 to 4 years by the court. Hence, then onwards they never call for bandh. On the other hand we don't disagree that injustice is meted out to Kannadigas by court orders. Apart from Bandh they can challenge this matter to High Court. Bandh is not the solution for any problem.
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by Karan Thakur on Feb 12, 2007 10:12 AM Permalink
Thank you for your support Sheeja. That's exactly what i meant. Good to see some sensible people around :) whatever they do, the normal people should be troubled. There are better ways to fight.
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by Karan Thakur on Feb 12, 2007 10:13 AM Permalink
There is a mistake in my post above. Please read it as "whatever they do, the normal people should NOT be troubled. There are better ways to fight."
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by sarvesha ag on Feb 12, 2007 08:52 PM Permalink
Man, you didn't understand (or I didn't) purpose of the strike. The strike was neither against the neighbouring state nor against the tribunal. It was more to wake up the government and force them to make amends to their earlier mistakes (like not doing much in these 16 years). I think the common people are wise enough not to 'yell' when the matter was subjudice. You dont have to 'close down your own house, break your own property and ask your home-mates not to go outside and don't work' if you have problems with the neighbour, but what if you are angry against the house owner and he is near deaf (or acting like one)? I presume YOU feed the daily wage earner on normal days whenever he fails to earn sufficient money.
P.S: I dont reside in Karnataka and its my GENERAL OPINION about the strikes.
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by Karan Thakur on Feb 13, 2007 07:16 AM Permalink
Man....You seems to be presuming things without understanding the facts. Did i ever say that i feed the daily wage worker. You very well know either you or me are not going to feed these daily wage workers, but unlike you people, i atleast do not restrict them from working for even a single day that you call bandh (violation of democratic right to work)...isn't it?
Moreover, shouting or yelling never helps as far as i know...it just escalates the tension. Better way is to negotiate the matter peacefully with strong points. As far as i know, a person resort to yelling only when he loose the ground and does not have faith in his capability to negotiate may be because he does not have solid point to put farward.
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by sarvesha ag on Feb 12, 2007 05:20 PM Permalink
Well said...but i dont think it can applied universally. Its best suited if the employees of a company are aggrieved and they want to show their anger(in a peaceful and constructive way). But how can you convey your message to the deaf ears of the admin by working extra hours (whether we have the guts or not ,that's a topic for another hot discussion and I dont want to comment on that :))? Even Mahatma Gandhiji took out non-alignment movement against the British admin. Is it not a strike? Didn't the people who were not part of the movement feel irritated? My opinion: if you want to convey your message to some deaf ears, you need to yell, but that doesn't mean you need to resort to violence. if you are a part of it you will see its necessity, if are neutral you will feel irritated and if you are against it you will oppose. that's a normal human behaviour :)
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by Karan Thakur on Feb 12, 2007 06:36 PM Permalink
Are you or your bandh organizers going to feed the daily wage worker for this (bandh) day?
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by Karan Thakur on Feb 12, 2007 06:35 PM Permalink
Simple Example: If you have problem with your neighbour house, do you close down your own house, break your own property and ask your home-mates not to go outside and don't work? I think the answer is NO...then why this bandh in your own city and state....are we not troubling our own people in the state.
Why don't you go and get the neighbour state closed by calling bandh there?
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by Karan Thakur on Feb 12, 2007 06:28 PM Permalink
One should make use of the oppertunity provided to them....the case was with tribunal for over 16 years....representatives of this state should have yelled there....and now the right way is to file a review petition (which is already being done) and present strong arguments in front of the tribunal and yell there as much as you can....not by calling for bandh and blocking TV channels and disrupting normal life of people....isn't it affecting business and daily wage worker. Is this affecting the ecomnomy....what are you going to get by stopping trains? you will find only normal citizen sufferring...etc etc....i can go on and on.....if you like....
MIND YOU ..... I am not a tamilian .... but i am strictly against any sort of SO Called BANDH.
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by sarvesha ag on Feb 12, 2007 03:00 PM Permalink
Hi Karan I totally agree with you that 'normal people should NOT be troubled, bandh (strike) of any kind should be discouraged, and there are BETTER ways to fight'. It will be VERY helpful for the agitated fellow Indians if you disclose the ways.
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by Karan Thakur on Feb 12, 2007 04:21 PM Permalink
yes indeed!! why not work continuosly extra hours without closing down (Japanese people still do it)
Will these people have guts to follow it? I doubt....
