So there we are. Its Open as the sky. Using the Muslims as a tool to acheive Hindu Unity ?
Be united by all means(Shouldnt that have been the case anyway?) But can you be less paranoid about muslims. I mean, its too much now. Its sickening to say the least. Why not be united without having to portray muslims in the ugliest picture? Have a life people. Do you really have to hate muslims to prove yourself a good hindu.
Some messages say , we got to get rid of castes to be united? huh? Get rid of castes just to be united? Well Hello! Its wrong to have had the Caste System in the first Place! Wasnt it ? ( I know you will start the sunni-shia bla bla, but let me make it clear, Islam doesnt have caste system. Shiism is a difference of belief, not an inferior/superior caste.) And I am sure absolutely that these same people were despising muslims in other forums for being a lame-duck Vote Bank ?? Now even you want to follow the same , How Clever ;) Really I can tell you , India is all about adopting others cultures, thats why we will have a All Hindu Vote Bank similar to Muslim Vote bank? We are really progressing. Never mind that only 50% of muslims cast their vote. Women even dont come out to vote in most places!
Stop being Paranoid. And ask yourself. Does this most economocially,socially backward community with hardly a presence in Military/Govt/Industry , which is so handicapped that goes back 10 years everytime a riot occours , give a run for your religion?? LOGIC says NO, But then what will you want to do ? Defy Logic and any "inner voice"(sic!). You want to go with the flow. Hating Muslims at the smallest pretext. Thats the in-thing. A Fashion Statement. Patriotism. And hating muslims would surely give you a sense of pride on being a hindu , if not anything else.
And the out come ?
Next time a riot occours , and you see muslims beaten black n blue , both by hindu mobs as well as police. Take pride in that and give a pat on your back, for a job well done. Or more patriotically say "they deserve it"
RE:Muslims as a tool to unite Hindus???
by Manoj Bhadani on Feb 12, 2007 09:55 AM Permalink
Dear Friend,
What you say above seems to be the actual flow looking at the events which have taken place in history. There is no doubt that what has happenned in the last 50 years will throw light on the turn of events. What India always wanted was a progressive goverment... What it received was not the same. If India has developed then thanks to the determination of few leaders and honest citizens who have done their part of the job well. It hardly matters which areas they have been working on. VHP and parties like it will always emanate when there is an opportunity. Lets take the congress party... who have ruled the country for most of the time. If we go back to pre-independence era, I do not think that it would have been the same status wherein the difference between the communities was so evident. What Congress achieved during this time or intended to do is keep the vote banks uneducated....be it Muslims, or UP or Bihar for that matter. During time though people like Lalu and Mulayam have hijacked their agenda. VHP is only a raw form of protest to highlight this sectarian politics played by these shrewd leaders. Any other leader protesting this in a secular way will be branded as playing right wing politics. Muslims will remain uneducated till the time their votes are polarised by the moolahs and will give rise to low literacy rates etc. I have not seen any Muslim who is educated and remains unemployed. Govt jobs do not form any basis of identifying whether Muslims are working there or not. Remember it is the same Congress who had a say in the govt. over these years.
The Congress and Communists have lost track and failed to identify the real issues. They are still not done and completed on their agendas. As I said earlier only gritty people like VHP will come out openly against their agendas. Any clear headed and honest opinion given by anybody will be termed as somebody non secular. What is required from the so called secular parties is leave religion to the people who practice it and concentrate only on development of the society as a whole.
RE:RE:Muslims as a tool to unite Hindus???
by Observer Observer on Feb 12, 2007 09:51 AM Permalink
Give me a reference about how Muslims treated the Quraish, and how Muslims were treated by Quresh, its becoming an in thing as pointed our the writer earlier to just blabber without any knowledge and refereces whatsoever , just plain lies like the Togadias and the Singhals.Shame on you that you think that LYING will get you somewhere, or are ytou proving that you are a good Hindu by writing lies.
RE:RE:RE:Muslims as a tool to unite Hindus???
by pieceful on Feb 12, 2007 11:14 AM Permalink
According to Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 280 - The prophet Muhammad (PBUH) headed an army of three thousand infantry men and thirty horsemen of Ansar (Helpers) and Muhajireen (Emigrants) and attacked the Banu Quraysh. This siege lasted 25 days. Finally the Banu Quraysh surrendered unconditionally. Muhammad ordered that the men be handcuffed, while the women and children were isolated in confinement. Thereupon Al-Aws tribe interceded begging the Prophet to be lenient towards them. Muhammad suggested that Sa'd bin Mu'adh, a former ally, be deputed to give verdict about them, and they agreed. Sa'd's verdict who had received as a serious wound in the previous Battle of the Confederates was "that all the able-bodied male persons belonging to the tribe should be killed, women and children taken prisoners and their wealth divided among the Muslim fighters.
The Muslims historians have been quick to bring baseless alibis to justify their raids against their victims like, they were "mischievous", causing "sedition" or being "treacherous" and "harboring against Islam". However there are absolutely NO specifics that exist, about the nature of those sins to warrant such a sever punishment and their total genocide. Trenches were dug in the bazaar of Medina and a number of Jews between six and nine hundred were beheaded therein. To separate men from the boys, the youngsters were examined and if they had grown any pubic hair, it was enough to behead them.
These are not lies, please visit www.faithfreedom.org for information about the origins of your religion.
