Why should anyone learn Kannada because they live in Bangalore. First of all, Bangalore is multi-cultural and one can survive of Hindi. If one can survive of Hindi then why learn any local language. Isnt that the idea behind 'national language'. There was a comment earlier saying that North Indians don't learn Kannada when in Bangalore, but if you know Hindi and I know Hindi, then there is no use for me to learn Kannada. I would never disrepect your language but there is no reason for me to learn it either.
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by rayker rayker on Feb 09, 2007 01:49 AM Permalink
its better to return fire to that particular individual, than fire at a mob and expect flowers in return. well, in any case we are a free country and anyone can live in any part of the country freely. its just that we were linguistically divided and now the politicians and greedy self centred individuals use the same tool to divide us again. just play ball, and try some national integration instead of returning fire with fire. maybe its nice to spray some water to calm the fire!
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by Uttar Pradesh on Feb 09, 2007 02:08 AM Permalink
national integration is done through communication and since we both know hindi then we should communicate. we dont need to learn another language to try communicate when we can do that now with hindi
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by Haresh G. jagtiani on Feb 09, 2007 02:47 AM Permalink
hello, hi, moshi moshi, wai, habari yako, hola, as salaam alekum and above all Namaste Uttar pradesh, all above are a simple greetings which convey welcome and love. Learn to be more positive instead of just Hindi. Communication at it's best is thru the expression and compassion.
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by rayker rayker on Feb 09, 2007 02:29 AM Permalink
national integration isnt done by communication with ANY particular language. its by a persons' heart and intentions to unite. you dont need hindi to unite people. Hindi will help us have a seamless linguistic experience since its a national laguage. heck, i'd been to tamil nadu recently where the taxiwallah dint speak hindi... but by jove! he spoke flawless english and we connected very well. the language wasnt important at all. just that he understood my problems to get across to another place in a hurry. i tried my broken tamil with him, as he dint know hindi. but he inturrupted to speak in english - much to my joy and surprise!
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by Uttar Pradesh on Feb 09, 2007 01:54 AM Permalink
why do they teach Hindi in Karnataka schools. its so that everyone can communicate in an Indian language. No North Indian disrepects Kannada but there is no reason to learn it either.
When in Rome be a Roman, When in INDIA be an INDIAN. I think Hindi is as INDIAN as any other indian languages. When in North Kar, do you learn their dilect or speak in your own dilect of Kannada.
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by karthik venki on Feb 09, 2007 02:05 AM Permalink
There is absolutely no reason to learn Hindi. Hindi is spoken only in UP, MP, Bihar, HP. These states are still in ancient civilization and have not contributed anything to the Indian economy. These people are dumb bunnies. Karnataka is a progressive state and it is in your own interest to learn Kannada and assimilate in a progressive culture.
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by Haresh G. jagtiani on Feb 09, 2007 02:17 AM Permalink
karthik venki, your name is as sick as your message. Karnatak belongs to our India and not to you, so leave off these unnecessary arguments which nobody wins, only saner persons understands. you are not karnatak nor is karnatak you. karnatak belongs to us Indians. Any indian citizen has a born indian right to settle anywhere on Indian soil, and language does not matter. The language of understanding and feelings are above your language.
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by karthik venki on Feb 09, 2007 02:14 AM Permalink
You are so narrow minded Mr. Uttar Pradesh.. Why should people in Karnataka know Hindi ???? Well, if a Kannadiga goes and settles down in UP, then he can learn Hindi. Otherwise there is absolutely no reason to learn Hindi.
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by Joy Felix on Feb 09, 2007 02:12 AM Permalink
Hi Venki, It is predominanty North Indian leadership and the Jawans gives India [Including Karnataka [Kannada] this progress and security. So do not abuse NI like you do to Tamils. All most all you have is provided by the Indian union, which is having NI as majority. Please do not forget NI even accepted your mediocre Deva Gowda as PM. Be Thankful.
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by rayker rayker on Feb 09, 2007 04:18 AM Permalink
quite true that its predominantl north indians in the leadership and jawans that protect the country. its a nice thing to remember - but not to remind like you chose to do so divisively. it also speaks of the imbalance in the political and the army spheres of how biased a situation is! funny that you chose to say it!
"All most all you have is provided by the Indian union, which is having NI as majority." preposterous statements, and quite divisive. if you are not adding value positively, you chose to further trolls and divisive elements, and fall into the trap that you want to avoid!
its patronizing the way you chose to put it, and quite biased.
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by rayker rayker on Feb 09, 2007 01:52 AM Permalink
While in Rome be a Roman... maybe this can be put in a courteous way. while learning kannada is not compulsory , its nice to learn the language and maybe mingle with the locals. i'd do the same if i were in another state!
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by Uttar Pradesh on Feb 09, 2007 01:55 AM Permalink
i agree but to use the argument that all north indians MUST learn kannada is counter productive.
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by Haresh G. jagtiani on Feb 09, 2007 02:03 AM Permalink
you are a sick person. Think of India as a complete country beyond pakistan on the west and bangladesh, nepal, bhutan on the east instead of just thinking about karnataka and language. Languages are several and India is One and so is its all the resources. Do not involve into mentally unbalanced thinking and think about the people of our India, our languages are supreme and ancient, think positive and work positively for the welfare of our mother India.
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by Uttar Pradesh on Feb 09, 2007 02:07 AM Permalink
what the heck r u trying to say. r u saying that we should learn kannada when in karnataka or not. No one says india is not one. Because India is one, we can all speak Hindi which is understandable by people in the north and by people in karnataka so my point is that when people say we should learn kannada when in karnataka, its not a valid arguement
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by karthik venki on Feb 09, 2007 02:10 AM Permalink
You will be the first person to learn Tamil when you go to Tamil Nadu. Or else they wont let you live in peace..
Just because Kannadigas are not assertive doesnt qualify you to rile the language. Kannadigas have 7 Gnanapeetha awards and the literature and culture is superior to any other regional language or Hindi. Thats why you should learn Kannada when you are in Karnataka
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by karthik venki on Feb 09, 2007 02:18 AM Permalink
Hey Uttar Pradesh,
You are talking about bengali and telugu literatures about which you have no clue. actually, you have no clue on Indian literature. Talking to you on this matter is a waste of time.
Recap: If you want to live in Karnataka, learn Kannada. If you dont want to learn well go to Hyderabad or Chennai. Those guys boast that they have millions of jobs. So why dont you go there and leave Karnataka for us. We will be happy to be by ourselves.
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by Uttar Pradesh on Feb 09, 2007 02:13 AM Permalink
learning a language because of awards is stupid for the lay man. communication is the most important thing and if u know hindi and i know hindi then there is no reason for me to learn kannada.
Besides Kannada doesnt have quite the literature that tamil, bengali, telugu, etc have so everyone can create that argument that we should learn their language. then what is the use of u studying hindi in school.
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by Haresh G. jagtiani on Feb 09, 2007 02:31 AM Permalink
not to say anything stupid and nonsensical, it is better to wrap up and say all languages are good and worth to learn despite anybody having a valid point. So all of us better shut up, close this silly subject about karnatak and do a constructive work for the progress of our mother India.
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by amalai on Feb 09, 2007 03:05 AM Permalink
Nobody has to leave Karnataka as long it is part of India. If they want they can fight for a separate country and then everyone would leave :-)
I am not sure what percent of people speak Tulu in Mangalore. If it is deemed that Tulu is the majority language and should you decide to live in Mangalore for the rest of your life, then LEARN TULU. BTW, Mangaloreans also speak the best and the purest form of Kannada !! That shows their loyalty to Kannada..
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by Uttar Pradesh on Feb 09, 2007 02:09 AM Permalink
most people from bangalore dont learn tulu when in mangalore. they are content to speak kannada to people there in mangalore. if these people are not willing to adapt due to practical reason (everyone knowing kannada), then there is no reason to expect north indians to learn kannada either
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by Uttar Pradesh on Feb 09, 2007 01:56 AM Permalink
exactly. These bangalorites wont learn Tulu or even another dilect of Kannada but they expect us to speak like them even if they know Hindi. Then what is the use of learning hindi.
The reason why we learn Hindi in Karnataka is for national integration so we can all communicate in an Indian language
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by rayker rayker on Feb 09, 2007 02:06 AM Permalink
if you go by your convenience, and like picking the local lingo... at least i'd definetely try and pick the local lingo and dialect. in a free country like ours, there's ought to be no rules - that when in a particular state you have to learn the local language or face any consequence! the whole premise of a linguistic divide seems to be the divisive factor not.
