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Eye wash and Hog wash
by MUHAMMED AKHTAR on Aug 31, 2007 07:35 PM   Permalink | Hide replies

PM's 15 point programme are there for last 20 years for minority. There is nothing new.These are all eye wash and repition by UPA govt.Muslims are being discriminated in govt jobs and promotion since independence, Sachar commitee has only confirmed it.Srikrishna commission even proved that even crime against them are not persued.You have a congress govt in Maharastra for last 3 years,why it did not persued Srikrisna report on crime against muslims.Out of some dozen muslim IAS officer in UP cadre in its 56 district not a single muslim was posted as DM during BJP NDA rule.WE have plenty of guidelines.Unless such guidelines have legal teeth, muslims will be discriminated in government and private sector as well except in a few companies like TATAs.These are votebank politics.By elevating one APJ or Ansari as President or VP muslim problem will not be solved.

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  RE:Eye wash and Hog wash
by RamRamRam on Aug 31, 2007 07:54 PM   Permalink
Majority of Indians do not discriminate Muslims. There are some uneasy feeling against Muslims because of the terrorist attack caused by them. We all see you as our Friends. You must stop crying like a baby and get into the main streamline.

Opportunities are available for every one, it is up to the individual to make use of it. STOP GOING TO MADRASSA which brain washes youths mind. Go to Government schools which will give you a better education than a Madrassa. Government schools are not bad, many of my friends studied in Government schools are living abroad.

First you are Indian then a Muslim. How many Muslims in North India Feel they are Indians? I can understand the hardship that the previous generation has gone through due to Partition of India & Pakistan. This should not stop you from growing and improve your living conditions. Muslims in North India should look at South Indian Muslims and learn how to improve their living conditions.

STOP GIVING BIRTH TO 10 or more Kids, Have Lesser number of Kids and Spend money for the betterment of them. You can improve only by looking ahead with positive thinking.

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  RE:Eye wash and Hog wash
by MUHAMMED AKHTAR on Aug 31, 2007 08:01 PM   Permalink
Osama or terrorism in India started after Babri Masjid demolition or 9/11.Muslims are being discriminated since independence.Talk logic no nonsense debate please.Come with fact and figure.Srikrishna and Sachars are not muslims

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by imran patel on Aug 31, 2007 08:12 PM   Permalink
If that was trues, ISLAM IS THE REASON FOR WARS AND DESTRUCTION, then the world should have been in perfect harmony before the Birth of the Prophet...BUT HISTORY tells us otherwise...

Mythological wars
Battle of Zhuolu about 2500BC
Kurukshetra War, based on warfare in the Kuru kingdom of ancient India, ca. 1200-900 BC
Trojan War, based on events of ca. 1200 BC
ca. 2500-2450 BC - Border wars between Umma and Lagash
ca. 2330 - conquest of Sumer by Lugalzagesi
2300 BC - conquests of Sargon of Akkad
ca. 1720 BC - Kassite attacks on Babylon
1650-1600 BC - conquests of Hattusili I and Mursili I
1600 BC - Hyksos conquest of Egypt
1600 BC - Xia-Shang War in China
1430-1350 BC - Kaska invasions of Hatti
1100 BC - Sea Peoples harrying the Mediterranean; Dorian invasion
1046 BC - Shang-Zhou War in China.
800 BC - Messenians Wars
722 BC - 481 BC Wars of the Chinese Spring and Autumn Period
701 BC - Sennacherib's campaigns in the Near East
8th century BC - 7th century BC - Lelantine War
499 BC - 479 BC Persian Wars
480 BC - 307 BC Sicilian Wars
480 BC First Sicilian War
410 BC - 340 BC Second Sicilian War
315 BC - 307 BC Third Sicilian War
475 BC - 221 BC Wars of Warring States Period in China
431 BC - 404 BC Peloponnesian War
395 BC - 387 BC Corinthian War
343 BC - 290 BC Samnite Wars between Rome and Samnium
343 BC - 341 BC First Samnite War
327 BC - 304 BC Second Samnite War
298 BC - 290 BC Third Samnite War



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by imran patel on Aug 31, 2007 08:12 PM   Permalink
334 BC - 323 BC Wars of Alexander the Great
323 BC - 322 BC Lamian War
323 BC - 280 BC Wars of the Diadochi
274 BC-200 BC Syrian Wars
274 BC - 271 BC First Syrian War
260 BC - 255 BC Second Syrian War
245 BC - 241 BC Third Syrian War
219 BC - 217 BC Fourth Syrian War
202 BC - 200 BC Fifth Syrian War
267 BC - 261 BC Chremonidean War
265 BC - 263 BC Kalinga War
264 BC - 146 BC Punic Wars between Rome and Carthage
264 BC - 241 BC First Punic War
218 BC - 202 BC Second Punic War
149 BC - 146 BC Third Punic War
215 BC - 168 BC Macedonian Wars
215 BC - 205 BC First Macedonian War
200 BC - 196 BC Second Macedonian War
171 BC - 168 BC Third Macedonian War
209 BC - 88 BC Parthian - Seleucid Wars
206 BC - 202 BC Chu-Han contention in China
191 BC - 188 BC Roman-Syrian War
135 BC - 71 BC Roman Servile Wars
135 BC - 132 BC First Servile War
104 BC - 100 BC Second Servile War


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by imran patel on Aug 31, 2007 08:13 PM   Permalink
73 BC - 71 BC Third Servile War or Spartacist Rebellion
122 BC - 105 BC Jugurthine War
91 BC - 88 BC Social War
88 BC - 87 BC Sulla's first civil war
89 BC - 63 BC Mithridatic Wars
89 BC - 85 BC First Mithridatic War
83 BC - 82 BC Second Mithridatic War
74 BC - 63 BC Third Mithridatic War
82 BC - 81 BC Sulla's second civil war
58 BC - 50 BC Julius Caesar's Gallic Wars
55 BC - 54 BC Julius Caesar's Roman invasion of Britain
53 BC - 51 BC Parthian War of Marcus Licinius Crassus
49 BC - 45 BC Caesar's civil war
44 BC - 30 BC Roman Civil War
44 BC Post-Caesarian civil war
44 BC - 42 BC The Liberators' civil war
44 BC - 36 BC Sicilian revolt
41 BC - 40 BC Fulvia's civil war
32 BC - 30 BC Antony's civil war
40 BC - 37 BC Parthian invasion on Syria and Asia Minor
36 BC - 33 BC Marc Anthony' s invasion on Parthian Empire

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by imran patel on Aug 31, 2007 08:07 PM   Permalink
Discrimination is Human...I agree.
But it is important how we fight it. Violence and terrorism is not the right way.

We fight it by putting in more effort w.r.t education. Making it a priority and working Hard to overcome obstacles...

What happened after 9/11. 3000 americans died...But over 100,000 innocent Muslims died...

In Islam,
END does NOT justifies the MEANS.

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by vivek singh on Aug 31, 2007 08:23 PM   Permalink
Abe Mulle ki awalad -- i m hindu aur mujhe sarkar se koi facility nahi milla jitna diya hai mere bap ne diya n now im into job because i deserve n there r lot of muslim in india having good job and r doing good in the field not because ushe koi special reservation tha just because they work hard and achived it... shallo rona chodo -- bikhari ki terah bhik manga chodo --

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by prashant sunidhi on Aug 31, 2007 08:39 PM   Permalink
Tumhare kaum ko Bhik mangane ki aadat pad gayi hai.
Doosri kaum mein bhi garib log hai jo kabhi raat ko jibharke khana nahi kha paatey.
lekin woh apne bacchon ko municipal school bhejte hai.....aur un mein se kai bacche kafi aagey tarakki bhi kar lete hai....kyon ??
Iccha shakti...aatma samman....
Aap ke kaum mein iccha shakyi mar chuki hai....Madarrasa hi aap ke liye nursery/school/college/degree hai.....toh aap kaise aagey badhoge.
Reservation se aapka koi bhala nahi hoga.....aap ke hi jaati ke log paise de-de kar ...rishwat dekar ....garib logo ka seat hadap lenge.

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by Tathagata Mukherjee on Aug 31, 2007 08:10 PM   Permalink
Lo! Here again, as a true muslim, you are justifying Islamic terrorism against India.

Why not Hindus do the same? Babri demolished because of 400,000 Kashmiris driven out? Crores of Hindus killed/driven out from Bangladesh.

FACT OF THE MATTER IS: ISLAMIC TERRORISM, SEPARATISM IS VERY PART OF ITS RELIGIOUS MOORINGS.

Even Pakistan was achieved by terrorism.

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by imran patel on Aug 31, 2007 08:05 PM   Permalink
Agree with you on Most issues...
Being an Indian and being a Muslim are NOT 2 opposing things. They go hand in hand.

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