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by m s on Aug 21, 2007 10:08 PM   Permalink | Hide replies

BAE paid 1 Billion pounds to Saudi prince for getting a deal worth more than 75 Billions.
How much did congress politicians get?

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by andrew smith on Aug 21, 2007 11:02 PM   Permalink
Congress politicians get enormous amount of money.
Billions of dollars.

Nuclear energy is good for India.But the common man needs to pay more for that energy.

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by Milind on Aug 21, 2007 10:09 PM   Permalink
Whats BAE?

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by m s on Aug 21, 2007 10:10 PM   Permalink
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE

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by Milind on Aug 21, 2007 10:13 PM   Permalink
Thanks...defence contractor you say !!
And please also tell me this......payments are general made by interested private players to govt. agencies/persons to get some monetory benefit.....
In a deal between two governments US & India.....who pays whom?

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by m s on Aug 21, 2007 10:20 PM   Permalink
US government will only pass the law to provide technology to India. The reactors and necessary components will be built by big companies.
Couldnt find detailed list, but here is a small list of companies that make the components or reactors:
http://www.world-nuclear.org/reference/portal/nuclear_fuel_processing.html
Also, these companies finance presidential election in US.

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by Milind on Aug 21, 2007 10:24 PM   Permalink
So tell me if this works this way......there are more than one supplier of reactors. Possibly more than 5. And all of them are paying the congress ( Which is part of a coalition) to get the deal passed and then award the contract for the reactors to them ?? So all of them pay or any one pays?

In India this would normally be said that neighbours fight because one accuses the other of staeling the milk from his cow. A cow that he plans to buy in future !!! :D:D:D

I do not know if it works this way with those reactor suppliers !!

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by m s on Aug 21, 2007 10:23 PM   Permalink
I read that Mayawati declared some hundred crore property. Sharad Pawar has over 1000 cr. property. Do you still wonder from where these politicians get money?

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by Milind on Aug 21, 2007 10:48 PM   Permalink
MS

I can understand the Iraq war thing you say. It is between the companies & their govt. One govt. So it's a win-win both ways. US govt gets money for war & they get post war deals.

But here 2 govts aere involved at the moment. Defence ccontractors are nowhere in the picture as yet. Next they have to deal with a foreign party ( Congress you said not Indian govt). And by the time that the bidding & awarding of contracts come into play ( which could be more than a couple of years away) the congress could be sitting in the opposition !!! So what happens to all that money? And even if they are in govt,. what prevents them from awarding the contract to another contractor?

So it is too far fetched an idea to think that Congress has been paid off to get this deal through !! Doesn't pass muster logically.

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by Milind on Aug 21, 2007 10:26 PM   Permalink
No I dont wonder. They get the money from interested private parties/contractors. But I wonder if Sharad Pawar gets money from Gujarat govt. to allot a match to Ahmedabad or he gets money from Delhi govt. to get some agricultural survey done !!!

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by m s on Aug 21, 2007 10:40 PM   Permalink
Companies in US offer either money or share in their companies just to pass the deal. This is a risk factor. They might loose the deal too. Contractors also have subcontracting deals with small companies from where money is channelled.
When deal will be passed, India will allocate contracts on basis of internal analysis, it can not be open bidding. So those contractors will be awarded deals. Where 30-40 billions of dollars are involved, no one thinks of few millions. Its the risk they are ready to take.
This is how business works. More risk more returns. Blackwater and Haliburten spend millions before Iraq war, now they are reaping profits from Iraq war.

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