While reding the article of Choksi and Thakur I was developing an impression that these two gentlemen think that the world is made of America and India only, while reading the footnote to the article about their credentials - my impression converted to conviction.
Firstly, India is viewed in the west as an emerging market of the third world, no developed nation holds India as any kind of military power, worth a mention.
Secondly, the entire Europe, including most democrats of London are sick and tired of America's war-games (Re: France didn't even bother to participate in Iraq). The world is aware that most problems in the Middle East started from seedlings planted by the US ( Re: Osama Bin Laden) and last week CNN-West Europe went overboard in explaining that the first Nuclear Reactor of Iran was given by US during Eisenhower's presidency - though now Mr Bush is jumping around to pull down Iran's nuclear program. ( Though history tells us that Iran (read Persia) was the only superpower of the world when America was nowhere and the Greek and Roman empires were in infancy).
In view of this, I don't forsee any genuine role of America in world peace, since they are busy trying to consolidate their position behind every public move towards peace....and please don't bring India into this because India is yet to be recognised seriously in the west, as a military power and even if India is considered a power someday - we should not get into the squabbles between US and the Arab world....since both are equally civilized in their dealings....and are capable of demolishing the other, without India's intervention.
RE:Please take off the blinkers
by Jiji on Apr 12, 2007 03:42 PM Permalink
Dear frnd... u r seriously misunderstood about India's military power. I agree that India is still an undeveloped nation. But as far as military ranking is concerened, India is 4th behind US, Russia, and China. Followed by India it is Germany on 5th and France on 6th. India has 2nd largest standing Army and 4th largest Airforce and 7th largest navy in the world!! You dont have to believe me, you can go to globerlfirepower.com to check this figures... and ofcourse its not an Indian site!!! Remember India did its first nuclear experiment in 1974!!! India has demonstrated Hydrogen nuclear weapons which is 100s of times severe than what was used in Hiroshima. Also India has developed its own super computer Param, which can be used for nuclear simulations and remeber only 3 or 4 countries in the world has developed super computer. So being Indian, atleast be aware of what we are!!!
RE:RE:Please take off the blinkers
by on Apr 12, 2007 09:04 PM Permalink
I am glad to know that we are also one of the humble powers working for the world betterment. If you don't have power (like own job), even your husband don't hesitate to stuff something in your mouth.
RE:RE:Please take off the blinkers
by Narendra Tade on Apr 13, 2007 03:08 AM Permalink
Dear Jiji,
The standing army or navy or the number of airplanes mean very little in the international power balance - the power in international arena means the power to mobilise - however that will take sometime for you to comprehend.
A small nation like Israel or France or UK can mobilize 10 times the power that India can - in international politics that is called power. Just 15 British marines being arrested for a week can turn round the world and hundreds of Indian soldiers are in Pakistani prison and we can't even touch a hair of Pakistan - I am writing this with more than 20 years of working with the Indian military and foreign office
Being Indian dosen't necessarily mean being imprudent, just grow up.
RE:Please take off the blinkers
by Jiji on Apr 13, 2007 04:06 AM Permalink
Dear Narendra, The ranking which I mentioned is not just based on no of army or no of ships or no of aircrafts. it also includes the size of economy, gold reserve etc etc. I hav not worked with any military or foreign office. But I hav been following world politics closely since childhood and I talk based on the facts. Pls go and see how many UK marines are killed (not arrested), every month in Afghan and Iraq. Incase of Israel, its not showing its power.. it is just fighting for survival. But of course they have a fine aerospace and radar technology. Also they have best commandows in the world. But this is not enough to be powerful. Now I will state some examples to show India's recognisation in the world.. India is a hot contender for a UN permanent security counsil seat for any future expansion. This is not just India's claim... out of 5 powerful nations, 4 has already given the open support to India. (Russia, France, Britain and China.) US is the only one in half mind. India and China are always the special invitees for annual meetings of EU and G8 Industrial nations group. India has its own space technology which is the best after US, Russia, EU and China. The EU is working on the development of a Fusion nuclear power technology with 4 selected nations who are the best in technology and they are US, Russia, Japan and India!!! And each country has to put $1 billion in to the project! All of the worlds best defense equipment builders are queing up in India to grab the huge defense purchase orders from India. And India is in such a strong position in negotiation that we can easily demand a technology transfer and many companies are even ready for that. This is not offered to many countries. I have been living in Europe for 3 years now and I know what is the feeling of west towards India now. Dear friend... a lot has changed since last 15 years!!
RE:Please take off the blinkers
by najeeb on Apr 14, 2007 08:47 PM Permalink
my openion on this message...india should adopt a policy that a team that watch our needs of technology our needs technology transfer fr other countries...this should be met without any rulilng parties or oposition parties interuption !!! is india is ready for it...?! i wonder...its same like peoples liberation army of china...use industrial and technology spies. which is india's survival in modern world. PLs. GO FOR IT. najeeb.
