RE:creating issue for a non-issue
by Ibrahim on Aug 25, 2006 09:26 PM Permalink
BHUKARI and ARJUN need to relocate to PAKISTAN where they will be more welcome and feel less offended with there peers like Dawood Ibrahim.
RE:creating issue for a non-issue
by Atindra Shukla on Aug 25, 2006 10:01 PM Permalink
Due to people like you terrorists have free hand in our country, Keep it up. Patriotisma and respect to our country's supreme symbols should be above all the problems. If one extends your type of stupid thinking, can also state that "Lets stop exist as nation and first solve the problms". Denial of singing national anthem or respecting national flag itself is a challenge to Indias existance as Soverign, Independant country and that is the biggest problem. If you are so global minded and not feeling or feeting in the ideology of nation, nationhood and patriotism you can leave India and can settled down anywhere in the world, all of your problems will be solved.
RE:creating issue for a non-issue
by Ashish on Aug 29, 2006 11:12 AM Permalink
kalpesh i am totally agree with Neil Razdan,it is not the matter of self interest ,it is our national song & everybody who is indian should respect it.i think the main problem of india is not from outside terrorist ,but from internal terrorist like arjun singh.
RE:creating issue for a non-issue
by Ran on Aug 25, 2006 08:27 PM Permalink
did you have anything caleed history as a subject in school ? If yes then how do you make such naive comments.
RE:creating issue for a non-issue
by Shivnarayan Varma on Aug 26, 2006 12:33 PM Permalink
Due to your kind of peoples who always ignores real issue, India is facing so many problems incuding problem of Pan Islamic terrorism. Tell me, if you have cancer and fever, which disease will you treat first, cancer or fever. Obviously cancer. When you will come to know you have cancer, you will forget all other problems. Now this same scenario is here in our country. Terrorism and minority appeasement is a cancerous disease for our country.Hindus everywhere in India irrespective of whether Mumbai bomb blast, blast in Kashmir or blast in IIT Bangalore dying and suffering everywhere. But peoples like you are trying to forget,ignore that core issue and misleading attention of peoples. Media is also comprised of peoples like you only. Which is diverting atttention of common masses from these core issues. My fellow Indian friend immediate issue for country is the security of its very own subjects. By appeasing Islam jehadis you ignoring the massacre of our hindu brother whether be in North East, Kashmir, South every where. Yes sizable Muslim community is silently supporting thse Jehadis.If Muslims wants to stay with us in harmony, they should love this country.
RE:creating issue for a non-issue
by Indian on Aug 25, 2006 03:20 PM Permalink
I agree with you. Same should be done with National Anthem. People who don't want to sing Jana Gana Mana, should not be forced to sing or stand.
RE:creating issue for a non-issue
by dimitrios on Aug 25, 2006 06:30 PM Permalink
No, Chaitanya, am sorry, pls brush up ur knowledge in history. Tagore gave up Knighthood in protest against Jalianwallah Bag. During partition of Bengal he was not even a noble lauriet, let alone be a knight. If u get to read (and 'course understand) some of Tagore's nationalistic poems, probably u will be able to learn and appreciate nationalism itself better. Infact our entire nation needs that knowledge, before its too late for us. Then a lot of posts in this forum would have become irrelevant.
RE:creating issue for a non-issue
by Kumar on Aug 28, 2006 01:52 PM Permalink
Well I agree that rendering a song doesn't proves anyones patriotism but does that mean that we shd allow any one to disrespect our national song and anthem.
RE:creating issue for a non-issue
by Bhushan Surve on Aug 28, 2006 06:10 PM Permalink
Shivnarayan Varma, I think you forgot about the immune system of the body. Before dealing with cancer or any other disease, you have to make sure that the immune system of your body is Working fine. Or else there is no use treating any disease, if your treat one the other will pop up. I believe that patriotism and respect for ones country works like the immune system of the country. Thats the reason we breed patriotism right form our childhood. You need to believe that the country holds the highest status of all (it is our Country about which we are proud of and we are known as Indians). And that I think Patriotism is the basic foundation of any Country. You forget about the country and start dealing with problems, and then you are heading nowhere. I think patriotism is what we are lacking today; it is lack of this immune system which is the root cause of all the problems, right from corruption to terrorism. I hope I have made my point clear. Vande Mataram.
RE:creating issue for a non-issue
by Neil Razdan on Aug 26, 2006 02:15 AM Permalink
The point being made is not whether one should or should not sing "Vande Mataram". The point is being made here on the basis of religious belief. Whether singing "Vande Mataram" will hurt religious belief of a muslim, or not. First of all, Imam Bukhari should be put behind bars for misguiding the public on religious basis and creating grounds for anti national sentiments. Secondly, paying respect to thy mother does not hurt any religion. Rather, one should be considered imbesile, uncultured, an rude for not respecting their elders, their parents, and especially their mother. "Vande Mataram" is that expression of respect to thy mother. Not bowing in front of anybody, nor worshiping any idol. All army personnel salute the national flag, which is a symbol, an idol of sorts. Why Pakistani army salutes to their own flag? Shoudl muslim personnel in Indian army not salute Indian Tricolor? This is not a question of religious freedom. This is discipline.
RE:creating issue for a non-issue
by Harish on Aug 26, 2006 11:10 PM Permalink
pls lets stop this mercenary attitude.. this is the ignorance or arrogance of people who under-estimate the freedom struggle (the real unity which in any form could never be found in this country). rather we be ashamed of what we tell.
RE:creating issue for a non-issue
by Utkarsh Patel on Sep 05, 2006 02:00 PM Permalink
Well....i guess it's time for you to board on " train to Pakistan " !
RE:creating issue for a non-issue
by ABHIJIT on Aug 25, 2006 03:29 PM Permalink
While there are/will be umpeenth number of issues always to be resolved, nobody should question the sanctity of the National Song.
At this rate, we will end up bid a good bye to our National anthem, flag etc.
