Every employer - mentions the kind of job role that would be expected out of the person - MBA or not during the interview or while giving the offer. Smita here is an MBA - perfectly capable of understanding what job entails before joining the company. What is she complaining about ?. Variable incentives are a part and parcel of the sales job.... They are given for achieving sales target...If a well educated management graduate cannot understand all these - It is a telling state of affairs about the quality of people who are MBAs. YOu start at the rock bottom... even if you are an MBA.
An management degree is not a automatic ticket to plush cabin. You are only advancing towards it more quickly than others who are not MBAs. The job still has to be done - you have accepted it with a clear mind and for which you get paid good salary. Because it is a rotten job which requires to conquer boredom / routine - you get the kind of fantastic pay-packet.
About late sitting - organizations have started having shift or flexi timings to combat this problem. You sit for hours when you can be most productive. Habitual late sitters are actually not encouraged in corporate setup. If they are - HR normally moves to find out the reason and address it.
RE:Good message but please be objective
by on May 01, 2008 09:11 PM Permalink
when a fresher passes out of a college he/she is not given on the job training. so he needs to do all sorts of jobs at work. so when a person joins a organisation don't expect a air condn cabin and a servent to serve you. you need to be proactive in ur approach as to get more experience in the job and i'm sure as you grow in your job you'll be doing the same thing to your juniors. this is only to make them learn but not to harass. anyone comes out of college needs to get some experience at work so as to grow further. so when you take a job prepare for everything initially and you'll learn with the time how to go with ur work.
RE:Good message but please be objective
by HA on May 01, 2008 08:27 PM Permalink
Almost all big companies ( particularly BIRLAS and RELIANCE ) have a no-peon culture. In the name of grooming up young engineers/management trainees, the Banks, and manufacturing company big bosses, in fact 'COMMAND' these trainees to do all sorts of jobs. I am an IT consultant in US, who worked in Birlas for 3 years, and experienced the same. Due to a financial constraint, I could not leave the job, and despite several complaints to HR, was asked to do, as 'WHAT MY BOSS SAYS' Also, as I was under a bond for 3 years, I could not leave the company.
After leaving Birlas and joining IT consultancy, I realised the difference in work culture. My reasons. 1. OLD MANAGERS, with OLD HABITS, ignorant of new technology, and methods. Inherently, they are quite afraid of the young blood, and so they form a nexus at top ( take the VP's or GM's nexus of BIRLAS or RELIANCE ). They systematically terrorise the youngsters, and break the confidence. I'm an manager now, and I've vowed never to let my subbordinate down..EVER. 2. Lack of transperency in HR policies, and appraisal system. In certain cases, the MBA/Engr. is simply given his appraisal and increement percentage, rather than any career/expectation discussion. (Lack of time is the main reason cited..Faltoo kaam mein time mat vaste karo approach). 3.Banking/Insurance are growing at a much faster rate,than they can recruit quality.So, to reduce workload,the mgrs dump the work on existing quality staff without sparing a thought
RE:Good message but please be objective
by Ravan Raj on May 01, 2008 08:21 PM Permalink
Ur correct boss. People have to know the taste of hardwork and food
RE:Good message but please be objective
by Intrepid on May 01, 2008 08:41 PM Permalink
No, I don't agree with you. The interviewers do not have any idea as to where( which department) the candidate will be working. They ask general questions in interviews. They just make sure whether you have a right aptitude. As an engineer, I have experienced this. Companies usually have a quota of grduates to be hired for a year. They(HR Dept.)don't have any idea as to the actual number of garduates needed for each department. HR does not have any idea about the duties and responsibilities of each job in each department. HR department just conducts interviews. After a candidate joins a company he/she is asked to work for a department which has put in a request for fresh graduates. I know this because my niece works for an HR department of a reputed company. In many IT companies, new hires are on the banch for more than a year. In many companies they are asked to do data entry just to give them some kind of work and keep them occupied. This is reality. I have seen many computer science graduates doing a job of a secretary. Their job is to send e-mails to clients, take notes during meetings, ask project members about their vacation plans etc. This happens in India and this happens in the USA too. I know someone who quit the project I was working on because he was doing a job of a secretary and he was promised that he would be working as a JAVA developer in his interview.
