I think gender equality has got nothing to do with celebrating Women's Day.. We do celebrate Mothers Day, Fathers Day, Childrens Day as well.. Women are natural managers, they manage their household chores, their office, kids, family, demanding in laws, all with an ease that most men appreciate. I emphasize "most" men as some men have a habit of taking women for granted. And in spite of all this, including the occassional "sexual harrassment", eve teasing etc, they live life queen size and give their famillies the best they can. This day is just to thank all the women out there, to say hats off to you and show that you're equally important to society.
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by Harit Shah on Mar 03, 2008 09:49 PM Permalink
Yes this is a public forum, but this is not a place where you can just paste the same message 1,000 times, Swathie! Please stop using the word "male chauvanist", it is a highly mis-used term, mis-used by people who do not understand its meaning. My simple request is to stop spamming and using up so much space. Just because you are a woman you cannot get away with anything, madam.
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by krishna tripathi on Mar 03, 2008 04:19 PM Permalink
do u think men dont manage anything? the constant pressure of society is managed by men. its a huge pressure to bring up a family and it is still a man's burden. taking care of children's education, looking after elderly parents, proteting family from all sorts of social stigma, runnig pillar to post in case of any crises..and do u think men are not insulted if someone sexually ill treats their sister, wife or friend? and u say "demanding" in-laws..one say u are also going to be mother-in-law..will u be demanding? if yes then u should not expect your in-laws to be nice. if no, then please dont take all in-laws to be "bad". do u have brother? if yes then do u demand anything from your "bhabhi"? remember..mother-in-law is also a woman and it is her day also. further she has also done all the things which u boast of ..today...a woman is the greatest enemy of another woman..and is is evident from ur post...disgracing ur in-laws who are not even reading this...
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by Harit Shah on Mar 03, 2008 04:39 PM Permalink
A beautifully written response to Ms. Preeti. I suggest she ought to think long and hard before writing such stuff that can be controversial. Let me assure you Preeti, that women don't need a "Women's Day" to be recognised for all they do. I certainly don't give a damn about these things, which in my view are nothing but mere marketing gimmicks for businesses to make some money off gullible people like us. I don't need a "Women's Day" to appreciate what my wife has done for me, or what my mother or my aunt has done for me. And you say that "some men have a habit of taking women for granted" - well, I can assure you, it works the other way around as well, madam! Some women also take men for granted. So the only thing I would say is that we do not need special "days" to recognise people like this, we can do it through small gestures every day, like buying flowers or a gift or present for your wife or mother, or for that matter just giving her a warm hug ("Jadoo ki jhappi") and saying "Thank You"! Correct, am I not, Ms. Preeti? And, tongue firmly in cheek, I might add here that "Women's Day" is much more "marketable" than a "Men's Day", wouldn't you agree:)
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by Preeti on Mar 03, 2008 04:47 PM Permalink
good to see they still make men like you harit :-) Take it as a compliment.. Just read what the guy before u has written.. Did I ever use a bad word for my in laws?? U seem to know English, tell me
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by Harit Shah on Mar 03, 2008 04:56 PM Permalink
Thanks for the compliment, Preeti! Appreciate it. Well, I don't think you used a bad word for ur in-laws, probably Mr. Tripathi may have over-analysed what you wrote. Let it be, as long as you're aware of the meaning of what you wrote, it's fine in my view. What do you do in life, I mean, work or what?
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by krishna tripathi on Mar 03, 2008 05:04 PM Permalink
Mr. harit.."demanding" is definately a negative word. and u find nothing wrong when preeti called me cheap? thats a bias ppl generally get when arguing with a woman. now all will support ms preeti irrespective of the facts. i have not "over-analysed" anybody. i am not a woman hater..but at the same time i want ppl to realise the sufferings of a man too. we dont cry, that does not mean guys dont suffer...
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by Harit Shah on Mar 03, 2008 05:12 PM Permalink
First of all, who says we don't cry? There is nothing wrong with "crying", or is it that you have some perception that "crying" is not a sign of "masculinity"?!?! I have certainly cried when my mother-in-law passed away last year and I do sometimes cry when things seem very hard to bear, it makes me feel much better and I can then get down to resolving the task at hand. So get that straight first. And secondly, I am not convinced that 'demanding' is a 'bad word', my mother is a bit demanding from my wife, but that does not make her "bad", in fact, my wife makes the efforts to live up to her expectations. So NOW would you say 'demanding' is bad? Well, you may be right, I think it was wrong of Preeti to say you have a cheap mentality, it was an over-reaction. Anyways, I suggest we think on a level-headed basis and not get to ocarried away with emotions.
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by krishna tripathi on Mar 03, 2008 05:57 PM Permalink
harit..when discussing on a sensitive issue..u have to think twice before saying anything. men dont cry occassionally as women do. this is a fact and psychologically established. it is nothing to do with "masculinity". it is a man's nature. i dont know what wrong have said. read my comments again. what i only mean by all this is that there are many who come for women's tears but there are an increasing number of men who suffer emotionally but are not listened to. i dont mean anything else...u are lucky that ur mother and wife live in harmony..all are not. and it is man who is sandwiched between mother and wife irrespective of who is right and who is wrong..agree or dont agree...
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by Harit Shah on Mar 03, 2008 06:37 PM Permalink
Fully agree, Krishna. In fact, let me tell you, it was not that peaceful initially, there were numerous misunderstandings, but then matters got resolved. But yes, men get sandwiched for sure.. Look mate, you just need to have someone to talk to to get your frustrations out, you must never keep it in. I am lucky to have a friend like that who I can talk to, so all people, men or women, should have someone like that.
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by Preeti on Mar 03, 2008 04:39 PM Permalink
wow.. u obviously dont know too much english.. demanding is definitely not a disgraceful or a bad term, they do have a right to be demanding.. no point arguing with u as i saw the kind of posts u have written on this board, ur cheap mentality is so evident
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by krishna tripathi on Mar 03, 2008 05:00 PM Permalink
if u know english go and search for an oxford dictionary and find the meaning of the word demanding. (english-hindi dictionary pg 194.."demanding" is meant as "doosron se bahut jyaada kaam karwaane wala")..get it clear. next, i have written nothing that can be called as "cheap". if u cant argue on points, do not call others by names. i respect my mother. every boy does so. how are we women haters and cheap? tell a single statement of mine on any post that can genuenlly be called as cheap.
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by Harit Shah on Mar 03, 2008 05:20 PM Permalink
For your information, Krishna, one of the meanings of "demanding" is "challenging". You see, a boss can also be "demanding" from his or her employees, that does NOT give it a negative connotation. So I suggest you re-think your perception.
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by krishna tripathi on Mar 03, 2008 05:46 PM Permalink
u r right. "demanding" may mean challenging too. but demanding may also mean "over expecting". u urself decide wht meaning of "demanding" is meant when a woman uses it for her in-laws...by the way wht do u mean by "challenging" in-laws...and if preeti loves her in-laws i have nothing wrong against her. i have only praised men, that i shall always do. and if preeti respects her in-laws then why shd i say anything to her. u all are mistaken..
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by ravi on Mar 03, 2008 05:00 PM Permalink
preeti, do you support men's day also, because it is necessary to say, hat's off to men. They are also equally important to this society. or you just like to reserve your statements just for women?
A small doubt, how women became "natural managers" is there any gene that gives management qualities to women naturally?
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by krishna tripathi on Mar 03, 2008 06:02 PM Permalink
thanks for support..actually i also strongly condemn this 498a and DV act and am fighting for my friends. they came to me for rescue in times..498a sucks..