Hi Irfan, First of all "All the best".You have lot of talent in u.Lot of members gives lots & lots of comments about u. Don't feel for any hurting comments. Please this is a time for u to prove ur talent. You have lot of self confidence i know that.So expose all ur talents to win the World Cup. I will pray for u always.God will always help u because god is always within you.
Why would we Indians be like this? We sold our country to Britishers a few hundred years back and led a slave life under their rule.
With difficulty Gandhiji got us freedom. Now we sell ourself to these politicians and cricketers. Stop this utter shameful act and focus on developing our country. Put country's interest above your personal favorites.
We all know that Sehwag, Irfan, or Tendulkar haven't done anything close to even 30% success rate in the last 18 months? Who included these jokers in the team and what cost?
Vengsarkar is not God and for that matter nobody in our country is above others. We live in a country where we have equal rights and if that calls for Vengsarkar answering general public he has to face them. He is no God and he is answerable to our free society.
RE:Why are our countrymen like this?
by Gladys Nel on Feb 27, 2007 01:33 PM Permalink
i honestly believe that irfan has personal problems. he has this girlfriend in south africa and it is weighing heavily on his mind. i do not care what people say that it will not affect his cricket - i believe that it will, purely because he is thinking of her allt he time and she is so far away from her. he shuold just admit that he has a special lady friend in south africa - he will feel better in himself and his cricket will improve.
RE:Why are our countrymen like this?
by Sandeep M on Feb 26, 2007 10:06 PM Permalink
No, he is not answerable to our society, get your facts right! Do not make emotionally colored statements. The BCCI charter awards it complete autonomy in its functioning, also the major revenue sources for the BCCI are proceeds from the sales of tickets and selling of sponsorship rights to TV channels!! Do not make statements like an uneducated loafer!
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by Vikram Singh on Feb 26, 2007 10:19 PM Permalink
What is the point you are trying to make here? We all know there is no justification for including players like Sehwag, Irfan, and Tendulkar. Are you saying BCCI included them in the world cup team and NOT Vengsarkar? I am confused....
RE:RE:RE:Why are our countrymen like this?
by Sandeep M on Feb 26, 2007 10:34 PM Permalink
BCCI appoints the selection committee, so the decisions taken by the slectors are in effect decsions taken by the BCCI. If you think there is no justification for including tendulkar and Sehwag, well then you are one more who does not understand the game of cricket!
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by Rajeev Narayanan on Feb 26, 2007 11:14 PM Permalink
A game like world cup the experience really matters. What we need is to trust our players and be with them rather than yelling at them. India got really good cricketers like sachin, shewag, dhoni, pathan and so on...They are all match winners, and we need such people. Would it be really good idea sending inexperienced players to play world cup? I dont think so...
This is Vengsarkar's day. So, he can talk any crap, he can favor anyone and will get away with it. He included three useless players in the team, Sehwag, Tendulkar, and Pathan. Fellow citizens we need to make people like Vengsarkar answerable to us. This is a democratic society and a single individual like Vengsarkar cannot take us for a ride for ever.
RE:every dog has its day
by Sandeep M on Feb 26, 2007 08:15 PM Permalink
Answerable to an idiot like you? Someone who played 116 tests for India with distinction and who runs a successful crciket academy in Mumbai, should be answerable to a third rate filthbag like you? Seriously, grow up, this message makes me wonder whetehr you have just escaped from a lunatic asylum and dropped into a cybercafe nearby!! Cos only a person who has lost his sanity can call Tendulkar useless! And Mr Dilip Vengsarkar does not need to be answerable even to Greg chappell, what about a non-entity like you!
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by Satish on Feb 26, 2007 09:11 PM Permalink
As long as jokers like you exist, who do not know your rights and who want others to boss you around, nobody can take our country out of this pathetic state to field in any competition looking for success.
Shame on you for not knowing your rights and shame on you for not thinking in terms of Indian success than Vengsarkar's success. If Mahatma Gandhi cared for people like you, he wouldn't have gotten us freedom. Think in terms of an Indian win friend than a few individuals who loot our country because people like you volunteer for an outright loot.
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by Sandeep M on Feb 26, 2007 09:36 PM Permalink
What a stupid and pathetic reply! Your doubts would have been valid had the BCCI been accused of downright malpractices like mismanagement of funds, nepotism, regionalism, misappropriation of funds, window dressing of annual accounts etc. The dalmiya controversy was very well handles and the servieces of the man have been dispensed off! Selectorial decisions, as i see them, are more or less fair. If you are trying to convey the message that the best 15 are not representing the country and a blatant attempt has been made to push certain favourites, then come out with concrete evidence and facts to prove your insinuation. Making vague, crappy, cynical statements shows your own frustration in life, it is clear that your statements show that your sense of self worth is very low! Under the circumstances, the appointment of Dilip Vengsarkar is probably the best one. Has been running a successful academy in Mumbai for more than 10 years, has groomed many youngsters and has a reputation for being strict, fair and impartial. His appointment has been done by an expert committee so it is best to trust it and get a move on. If the BCCI and the selection policies were really unprofessional, then India would hav ebeen bottom of the heap! that is not the case at all, Indian cricket might not be top of the heap, but we are certainly a very good team. About my rights, well i'am very aware of them, but i will certainly not be stupid enough to assume that i have right to know how a body like the BCCI is working! The IITs also function on taxpayers money, do you think you have the righ tto know how an IIT is run? This smacks of gullibility and naivete of the worst kind! Next time grow up a little bit and do not let frustrations in your private life spill on to this forum!!
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by Satish on Feb 26, 2007 10:09 PM Permalink
I am growing up and that is the reason I am still thinking as per my growth. Looks like you have outgrown your thinking and hence incapable of thinking. Since you have clearly outgrown the capacity to think, it is not worth discussing anything with you.
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by Satish on Feb 26, 2007 11:01 PM Permalink
My dear friend, if we do not constantly question ourselves, the best in us cannot be brought out. If we don't critic our bad decisions we can never come up with a right decision. We can hit success only if we keep correcting and fine tuning ourselves. The difference between you and me is; I want to work for an Indian success whereas you have taken for granted Indian success. If you want to work for an Indian success, there is no merit in picking players who are past their peak or currently out of form.
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by Sandeep M on Feb 26, 2007 10:22 PM Permalink
Looking at your responses, it is clear that you stopped growing by the time you turned a 10 year old cos only a ten year old will make some statements that you have made in this forum!
Sample some of the statements : a) Making Vengsqarkar answerable to the common public! On what basis, what is the logical explanation? nothing, no explnation , just stupid juvenile comments! b) Sehwag and Tendulkar are useless, this is the dumbest statement that does not befit even a schoolkid!
For your kind information, the BCCI charter gives it complete autonomy in its working, it is not a government body in its typical sense. The bulk of its revenues coms from sales of tickets and sponsorship rights sales! How does the common man come into all this?? Now you know who has stopped thinking and who lacks in the upstairs? There are some people in this forum who can't write two words of English together without a big strugle, some crap coming from such people can be understood. Looking at your English, it seems you have a decent background, all the more shame that you are so illiterate in your comments. Atleast read the BCCI charter on Wikipedia before you shoot off your mouth and make an absolute fool of yourself! And yes, when i said that you shuld grow up, i mean to say that you need to grow up and think like an adult rather then be caught in some time warp by which you think like a schoolkid.....I hope i'am not insulting schoolkids!!!!
The point is that Pathan is no longer a bowler. Two years back he was simply superb and Indian supporters felt that he was going to be the next Wasim Akram.
Two years down the line and he is a pale shadow of the player he once was. No Swing, no movement off the pitch and definitely no pace. The way he is bowling now I wonder if Mick Lewis's record of giving away a century might be broken by Pathan.
His batting has come up by leaps and bounds, but then if he is not going to be able to bowl with International Standards, might as well opt for a full time batsman.
This compromise is not going to work and for all the hullabaloo that he is generating, I think Pathan will most likely be
a) A passenger for most of the tournament b) If plays, will be made a scapegoat (maybe rightly so)
This is one selection that makes an Indian supporter feel betrayed, especially with the injustice done to Powar.
RE:Bowling ... oh no ... Batting Allrounder ... oh neither
by Summer on Feb 26, 2007 06:40 PM Permalink
true. Pathan does not deserve to be sitting in the dressing room. he needs to find his form back and to be included as front line bowler. for that they should give him time to get hisform back in domestic or county cricket which really worked for zaheer khan. same applies to sehwag. like ganguly he also should be made to prove his class in domestic or county. and if they fail in these then they cant be included in indian team.
In the same match Ramesh Powar took 4 Wickets at the rate of 2.5/over in 10 Overs. Also pathan has just scored 2 runs in that macth. Then what are we expecting from Pathan in WC ?
selectors supposed to select team based on current form. unfortunatelt this indian team has too many out of form players. by dropping them and allowing them to play in domestic cricket will definitely help them to get their confidence and form back. this indian team does not seem to the best available. hope it does well and if it does happy news for eveyone and if it does not then it would be the curtains on some of players.
RE:Selection
by Rajeev Narayanan on Feb 26, 2007 11:20 PM Permalink
You will get the answer in this world cup from Pathan's play..Just wait and see, he is a talented cricker
it is unbelivable that laxman and kaif has not been selected...one is a match winner who can win games on his own EX-(280 against australia,brilliand test series and 1day series against australia in australia)not even brial lara has that type of record in australia against australia....and other is electrifying fielder..who saves atleast 20 runs on his own..and he can also chip in with some half centuries..EX(natwest series final 2003)they r really idiots....
useless indian team they cant even imagine of going to semis with these kind of players...its waste of time watching these players play at domestic level..things are crystal claer india cant win world cup..luck comes ones for inefficient ppl and that has already struck in 1983..professionals win often and thats 1987,1999,2003..
