RE:GOVT
by Punyakumar on May 27, 2008 01:53 PM Permalink
Just because some party is in power at centre does not mean they don't need to face the floor test. They have to prove they have majority support. BJP is a master manipulative party they know how to prove majority. At this point they have both money and muscle power to buy independent MLAs. Firstly it is their right to form the government.
RE:GOVT
by Muniasamy Gurusamy on May 28, 2008 06:59 PM Permalink
Why the ref to DMK. DMK bought el;ections with Congress and won 168 out of 233. The alliance parties are supporitng them. DMK govt has done many good thing than many other state govts.
BJP should replicate Gloden Traingle Road project in Karnataka Bidar to Chamrajanagar North Kanara to Kolar Dist. Before another karnataka state elections. Kumaraswamy would have become chief minister for next 2 terms if he had stick to T20 game and shared power with BJP now he may have to wait for next 15 yrs.
First of Congratulations to BJP. Specially to Shri. Atalji, Shri.Advaniji. It is really good for Karnataka which is need most and immediate. I thank all Karnataka citizens to choose a strong, hardworking and good administers like Yediyurappa and Co. I wish them long live and complete 5 years with corruption, anti terrorism, anti rowdism state. I am quite sure that BJP will follow their manifesto and complete on time. MAY GOD BLESS THEM AND GIVE THEM COURAGE, STRENGTH AND PEACE OF MIND. JAI HIND, JAI KARNATAKA. We are going reap a good fruit from BJP.
Hasty decision of Mr. Kumarswamy to tie up with BJP has eroded Janata Dal Secular. BJP has a history of engulfing alliance partners. It is BJP that was responsible for the erosion of Janata Dal base at national level. Janata Dal(U) is a non entity in Karnataka, now it is the same story retold about JD(S). A party that has produced so many leaders has to fight for its own survival. By focussing on short term gain with BJP, it has become a marginalised party. It is high time for Mr. Deve Gowda to build up leadership base without focussing on his sons' political standing. If they fail now JD(S) will be a non entity. The decision of senior leaders and real party builders were sidelined by listening to first time winners, who lack political understanding and wisdom. By saying they ditched congress to save the party, they have become a laughing stock. Let Mr. Gowda let his ego go, stay neutral and concentrate on rebuilding leadership and thereby party from the scratch. I feel sorry for the situation, because I have seen the growth of Janata Party from the very beginning and admired the tall leadership it had produced.
RE:Mr. Gowda should rebuild the Janata Dal Secular before his retirement.
by Vikas on May 27, 2008 12:11 PM Permalink
Nonsense. Wake up from ur dreams.
Congress split JDS by pulling out Siddharamaiah and his supporters. Thats why JDS pulled down Congress. BJP never tried to split JDS during their alliance. Its Devegowdas foolish greed that destroyed JDS
RE:Mr. Gowda should rebuild the Janata Dal Secular before his retirement.
by Punyakumar on May 27, 2008 01:45 PM Permalink
Siddaramaiah was still in JDS till he was thrown out of the party. By their own admission Mr. Arun Jaitley and Mr. Kumar Swamy have come openly on every media and admitted to have had interactions since the announcement of results. Go back and watch the news channels for clarification. You cannot run away from facts by appealing emotionally. BJP has a track record in engulfing smaller parties, particulary Janata Dal, go back and study political history of this nation. Many BJP leaders come from erstwhile Janata Party or Janata Dal. Even when Dharam Singh had to face the floor of the house, Siddaramaiah was in Janata Dal. Mr. Vikas dont talk nonsense.
RE:Mr. Gowda should rebuild the Janata Dal Secular before his retirement.
by dakshin on May 27, 2008 02:06 PM Permalink
Yes Siddaramiah and his followers were thrown out of the party by Devegowda' men. The reason being he had become more powerful than his sons and also he exhibited his strength by organizing ahinda conventions. The party suffocated because of the hasty decisions of Mr. Kumarswamy and his supporters. By succumbing to the temptation of becoming chief minister for 20 months, he has put his political future as well as that of party at risk. He has to work hard to rebuild the party otherwise, JDS has no future.
RE:Mr. Gowda should rebuild the Janata Dal Secular before his retirement.
by Vismay on May 27, 2008 02:12 PM Permalink
The strength of BJP is annihilating partners. As a student of politics, it is very true. BJP has mastered that art.
RE:Mr. Gowda should rebuild the Janata Dal Secular before his retirement.
by dheeraj on May 26, 2008 04:55 PM Permalink
The reverse can also be said . In UP BSP tied with the BJP and destroyed the BJP taking away its votebank of Brahmins . BSP may be the star of the future .
RE:Mr. Gowda should rebuild the Janata Dal Secular before his retirement.
by Bharat Kr on May 26, 2008 07:22 PM Permalink
Punya, you have a nice name. Punya is opposite of papa, the sin. So, why do you symphathising a party which is so sinful? BJP offered them 20 months unconditional support, they enjoyed. After that they betrayed BJP, that was a disgust to former PM Gowda. Please talk some sanity, and accept the result gracefully. This is the beauty of democracy, we all can have opinions and beomes leaders. People of Karnataka gave BJP a chance, so now it is BJP's responsibility to perform. I wish them all the best.
RE:Mr. Gowda should rebuild the Janata Dal Secular before his retirement.
by Punyakumar on May 27, 2008 10:29 AM Permalink
In politics there is no permanent tie up. BJP was the one that lured JDS to form Government by cutting ties with Congress. They were paid by the own currency. Yes everyone should respect people' verdit. Mr. Bharat you should know the difficulty with which an anti congress party was formed under Jayaprakash Narain's direction. Mr. Hegde, Mr. Devegowda, Mr. Bommai, Mr. J.H. Patel were the risk takers and founders of that Party in Karnatak. Janata Dal is an off shoot of that movement. You cannot forget that, Mr. Devegowda may have flawed now, but his conviction and contribution cannot be ignored. I dislike BJP because of its communal background. BSP may be an exception in UP. But BJP has viped out Janata Dal nation wide. BJP is more sinful - it still has blood stains of people slaughtered in Gujarat.
RE:Mr. Gowda should rebuild the Janata Dal Secular before his retirement.
by dheeraj on May 27, 2008 09:41 PM Permalink
The Janata Dal was a party which was formed on only one basis anti Congressism ,it had no concrete agenda nor any ideology , that's why it fell apart easily . The BJP is weakening in Bihar due to alliance with JD(U) and with respect to Karnataka the BJP alliance with JD-S damaged BJP a lot ,it became third in the local body polls held last year and was seen as a party at the beck and call of the JD-sS . If the alliance had continued its full term it would have been the BJP which would have been marginalised . Coming to alliances the BJP has a good alliance with BJD in Orrisa and SAD in Punjab .
Though I am not a pro BJP person. I am of the opinion, BJP should form government. Congress and JD (S) should look back, evaluate themselves and have to proper strategy to rebuild respective parties. JD (S) is a party without commander - everyone loves to be a commander. They don't have principles to adhere to and work with. They have exhibited that previously. They are branded as opportunistic bunch of people. Congress to has become the party of white collared politicians. Their office bearers and policy makers in Karnataka have not touch with grass root realities. They live in fairy land. Let Congress build up its grass root level support base, build up leadership at every level. The danger of it is, some of the leaders may go out of party. But still it is good to produce leaders than be in a very tricky situation during elections.
It will be a very uncertain and unstable situation when anything could happen in a very few months. For development stong government with absolute majority is must. These type of governments won't last long.
Biggest culprit is nation wide curruption which is more in political leaders when they grab power. Development and advancement is impossible without curruption being rooted out.....Governments will keep changing but nothing will change unless there is change in the mentality of leaders and population....
RE:BTW, where is Deve ''Nidde'' Gowda?
by Punyakumar on May 26, 2008 03:46 PM Permalink
BJP is in much more worst situation now. A party was holding BJP for ransom, now it will be a couple of individuals.
RE:BTW, where is Deve ''Nidde'' Gowda?
by ANAND TEERTHA on May 26, 2008 08:10 PM Permalink
But Cong-I should thank ,muslims who tactically voted for the Cong-I and made it to bag 80 seats!! Otherwise Cong-I would have bagged only 43 seats!!
RE:BTW, where is Deve ''Nidde'' Gowda?
by Punyakumar on May 27, 2008 03:57 PM Permalink
Congress has gained marginally in North and South of Karnataka. It has not done well in Central Karnataka. The delimitation has given BJP 10 bonus seats, because BJP has a strong presence in urban areas. Never before the electorate was so polarised.
RE:Bangalore is doomed !!!!!
by rakesh on May 26, 2008 11:36 AM Permalink
Good that you are not in Bangalore Now. May God give peace and secuirity to the city you live in NOW.
RE:Bangalore is doomed !!!!!
by Abbas Rescued on May 26, 2008 11:19 AM Permalink
Dont worry.. Bangalore doesnt miss Imran... Take good care wherever you are.. This country belongs to sadhus and they dont harm anybody...
Though i am from Maharashtra i had discussed lot on this forum to vote BJP. now i think it is worthful sharing views with peoples of diffrent state specially karnatak peoples the verdic is already cleared that BJP will get more seats than others. Now my humble request to all who are against to BJP pls give your suggetions so that this party govrns for betterment of Karnataka. Naturally development is the key & first point to all of us. India is mainly divided into Urban & Rural,so my personal view is to minimise this Gap. BJP will give priority to fill gap between Urban & Rural.
RE:THANKS TO KARNATAKA PEOPLES FOR SUPPORTING BJP.
by Sami on May 26, 2008 11:36 AM Permalink
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY BJP LEADERS ARE SAYING CONGRESS HAS LOST. IT WAS BJP AND JD WHO WERE RULING THE STATE BEFORE THIS ELECTION.
Achievement for the Congress:- 1) Congress party recieved the heighest number of votes in the satte. 2) seat that congress won inscreased to 80.
Better Congress should wait for few years and better prepare for next election. It's not that few more people feel BJP is good that's why they have given vote to BJP, it's the sympathy vote for BJP due to Gowda-Kumaraswamy Pvt. Ltd. character.
For BJP: 1) Still they didn't got the full majority. onless they will buy few MLAs at heafty price, they can't form the Govt. Out of 6 independent MLA's: -> 4 are rebel Congress MLA who dodn't recieved Congress ticket. -> 1 is JD (S) MLA who dodn't recieved JD (S) ticket. -> 1 is BJP MLA who dodn't recieved BJP ticket.
RE:THANKS TO KARNATAKA PEOPLES FOR SUPPORTING BJP.
by Manju on May 26, 2008 08:49 PM Permalink
Mr. Sami, all the 15 seats are the migrants from JDS who came along with Mr. Siddaramaiah. They all have won. Try to recall your memory...
RE:THANKS TO KARNATAKA PEOPLES FOR SUPPORTING BJP.
by shankar aurade on May 26, 2008 11:49 AM Permalink
JUST PONDER ON THIS POINT CONGRESS GAIN IS ONLY 2 % WHILE BJP GAIN IS 11 % FROM LAST ELECTION. CONGRESS PLUS JDS FIGURE COMING TO 108. TILL SHORT OF 2 SEAT OF BJP. SO BJP IS THE SINGLE LARGEST PARTY IN KARNATAK.& ACCEPT DEFEAT HUMBALY IS SIGN OF TRUE LEADER INSTEAD OF GIVEING LAME EXCUSES.
RE:RE:THANKS TO KARNATAKA PEOPLES FOR SUPPORTING BJP.
by Sami on May 26, 2008 12:04 PM Permalink
The Congress may have finished a second, but it remains ahead of the BJP in terms of vote share. An analysis of the results on the Election Commission website shows the Congress won 34.6% of the votes against the BJPs 33.9%. While that represents a swing of about 0.7 percentage points away from the Congress since 2004, it means the BJP has picked up an additional 5.6%. The JD(S), badly mauled, has not faced a huge negative swing in terms of vote share. Its vote share has dropped by less than two percentage points: from 20.8% in 2004 to 19.1% now. --Times of India
RE:THANKS TO KARNATAKA PEOPLES FOR SUPPORTING BJP.
by shankar aurade on May 26, 2008 12:17 PM Permalink
& FOR YOUR BASIC INFORMATION THAT ONLY SEATS ARE CONSIDERED TO FORM GOVT. NOT % SHARE OF VOTES. IF THIS IS THE CRITERIA THEN GOVERNOR MAY CALL TO CONGRESS TO FORM GOVT. AS PER YOUR CRITERIA.
RE:RE:THANKS TO KARNATAKA PEOPLES FOR SUPPORTING BJP.
by Sami on May 26, 2008 12:26 PM Permalink
Yah!!! it happens only in unfortunate democracy. Party with only 1/3 of peoples approval forms the government.
RE:RE:THANKS TO KARNATAKA PEOPLES FOR SUPPORTING BJP.
by Sami on May 26, 2008 12:28 PM Permalink
Congress would not have lost this opertunity of comming back to power, they lost because of
The BSP has raised its vote share to 2.7% from 1.7% in 2004. Though this was not enough to win any seats, it did come second in a couple of them. The theory that the BSP may have dented Congress prospects is not borne out by a study of the results. -- Times of India
RE:RE:RE:THANKS TO KARNATAKA PEOPLES FOR SUPPORTING BJP.
by shankar aurade on May 26, 2008 12:45 PM Permalink
Congress seeks advises from so called experts seating in air-conditioned rooms & wasting times to depend on times of indias foolish statistics only. Times of India has done good job for congress. Rely on statistics for coming elections also. so this party can see better future.
RE:THANKS TO KARNATAKA PEOPLES FOR SUPPORTING BJP.
by rajshekar sampgaon on May 26, 2008 12:30 PM Permalink
It is really good to see BJP forming the government this time , however the onus is on all elected members to fulfill the wishes or whatever they had promised in the manifesto.
Small reminder to JDS and Congress , now atleast stop the dirty game of numbers, when people have not given you the mandate why can't you sit in oppposition and try to gain the lost space. Majority of Big Congress leaders lost their election , on what face they go to form the govt on numbers! .
RE:THANKS TO KARNATAKA PEOPLES FOR SUPPORTING BJP.
by Sami on May 26, 2008 11:44 AM Permalink
The Congress may have finished a second, but it remains ahead of the BJP in terms of vote share. An analysis of the results on the Election Commission website shows the Congress won 34.6% of the votes against the BJP%u2019s 33.9%. --Times of India
RE:RE:THANKS TO KARNATAKA PEOPLES FOR SUPPORTING BJP.
by shankar aurade on May 26, 2008 11:55 AM Permalink
dont talk of this Times of India, when BJP got 110 seats then they still asking qusetions to Mr Jately that How will you form govt.? what this Indicats That they are manupulating their viws. even just go to their site you will not see that BJP has win in Karnataka.
RE:THANKS TO KARNATAKA PEOPLES FOR SUPPORTING BJP.
by Sami on May 26, 2008 12:02 PM Permalink
Still BJP didn't got the full majority. onless they will buy few MLAs at heafty price, they can't form the Govt. Out of 6 independent MLA's: -> 4 are rebel Congress MLA who dodn't recieved Congress ticket. -> 1 is JD (S) MLA who dodn't recieved JD (S) ticket. -> 1 is BJP MLA who dodn't recieved BJP ticket.
RE:THANKS TO KARNATAKA PEOPLES FOR SUPPORTING BJP.
by Shanker Shetty on May 26, 2008 12:45 PM Permalink
YES, I YESTERDY WHILE WATCHING DD NEWS, MANY JOURNALISTS AND EVEN CONGIS LEADING WERE MANIPULATING THEIR TALKS, WHICH IS RIDICULOUS
