When Pak (along with other OICs that it had pocketed) was going to drag India to the UN for violation of human rights in Kashmir, it was Iran that intervened (on request of PV Narasimha Rao) to stop the resolution. As friends to both nations Iran adviced to resolve the issue bilaterally. And then what did India do to Iran? Read the article above, author trying to defend India saying it was India's "principled" stand to refer Iran to IAEA. IRan could also have gone against India saying it was its "principled" stand to refer India to the UN!
RE:And oh... the author forgot to mention a small detail
by west on May 03, 2008 12:12 AM Permalink
u must be out of your mind to compare the Kashmir issue with the Iran Nuclear issue. Iran signed the NPT with the IEAE.
In reciprocity to the Iran's help on the Kashmir issue, India never got involved in Iran / Iraq trouble.
RE:And oh... the author forgot to mention a small detail
by chase joseph on May 03, 2008 11:16 AM Permalink
Indian never gets involved in anything. Our country is very passive. What is this Iran Nuclear Issue? Why can't Iran have nuclear weapons. Indida does not have the moral right to advise Iran or any other country since we already are a nuclear weapon state.
There are very few countries in the world who has taken a principled stand on Nuclear weapons. All other have the same colour
RE:And oh... the author forgot to mention a small detail
by jmaxwell on May 04, 2008 02:31 AM Permalink
as west mentioned, iran signed the NPT which gives it a NNWS status. trying to build nuclear weapons goes against the agreement they signed. india SHOULD ridicule any nation fails to honor and breaks international agreements (esp if there are hidden benefits such as the warming of relations with the US). on the other hand, india NEVER signed the NPT; so when it developed nuclear weapons it did not break any international agreements. and that is why we were sanctioned by the world (though india did a fantastic job of standing up for itself. in the end, the sanctions hardly had any impact at all.)
if iran wanted to develop nuclear weapons, it should have acted like india and realized that the NPT was unfair to other nations and stood up for itself.
RE:And oh... the author forgot to mention a small detail
by Ram Sharma on May 03, 2008 11:03 AM Permalink
If what u say is true, that means Iran did a very friendly work. It should not b ignored.
I dont think India has any sound international policy.Its policy makers are dumb and illeterate. They have always played with Indias national interest. A very gud example is recent success of China in surrounding India with its naval bases in our own backyard and neighbour hood. So lets accept the fact that we dont stand any where near China and stop ranting about. A simple project takes years to complete , a deal drags on and on...The fact is INdian policy has no long term strategic vision, its more of ad-hoc. Indian politicians oppose or support a deal just for the sake of it. India has laways been a land of betrayers, who betrayed the India to the british and today there are Indian communists who are betraying India to China. These communists plan to bring a revolution in India. If not for the amazing Indian Army They surely would have succeed in their evil Plans.
RE:Indian Policy is Dumb
by west on May 02, 2008 11:59 PM Permalink
Indian govt is very new to this type of dealings at the international level. it takes time for the govt to get used to this type of strategic games. To grab the most of the present opportunity, I hope the govt will put some competent people in the external affairs and foreign policy depts rather than the usual 'chalta hai' people.
RE:Indian Policy is Dumb
by motor mouth on May 03, 2008 01:39 AM Permalink
Even after 60 years of independence u think it is new....gud excuse for our incompetence though...
RE:Indian Policy is Dumb
by on May 03, 2008 03:42 AM Permalink
it is not at all about 60yrs. until very recently, india did not matter much on the global front (ignoring our past before british and mughal occupation). now it is turning into an economic superpower and the world has taken notice. our babujis and netajis have not been in the international limelight, so it should not be a shock that they do not have the maturity/experience to deal with it. in time such experience will be gained and hopefully by then, our elected leaders aren't uneducated wealthy village land owners who get into power by making false promises to the vast population of poor people in india. as the majority of poor move to middle class living standards, the quality of our elected leaders will improve.
RE:Indian Policy is Dumb
by Nostra Damus on May 03, 2008 03:34 AM Permalink
We have the most incompetent Foreign Office babus of any country. The fat cats are more interested in their power and pelf rather than serving the nation. No wonder an indian citizen is treated very shabbily in most countries.
RE:RE:Indian Policy is Dumb
by on May 03, 2008 03:49 AM Permalink
don't blame the leaders for the mistreatment. in most cases indians don't stand up for themselves when being mistreated. they stick with the "chalta hai" attitude. this ofcourse might have something to do with the fact that we are a conquered people; atleast for the last millenia or so - first the mughals and then the brits. we need to toughen ourselves up mentally, which will happen once our parents geneartion dies off. sometimes i wonder what happened after the generation of our great grand parents who fought for our independence with nothing but their resolve.
still; i agree with your point that the indian leaders are quite corrupt and care more about their self interests than that of the nation.
RE:Indian Policy is Dumb
by Ram Sharma on May 03, 2008 11:26 AM Permalink
We hv to learn a lot from Chinese. They r much ahead of us in defence, infrastructure (there infrastructure was highly developed before they had cars for common people), literacy, language (Mao forced them to hv a single script and language), discipline, population control (they r following one child norm since 1979) etc.
RE:Indian Policy is Dumb
by jmaxwell on May 04, 2008 02:18 AM Permalink
wrong. the only reason they are "ahead" is because india's economic boom started 20 years behind theirs. the international companies started operating in china and china started exporting goods and services 20 years before india entered the market. this is the only gap we have to catch up. and we will.
Other than vote bank in India, and IPI gas Iran is not going to help india in anyway.
Iran is close to china and Pakistan, worst problems for India Iran has cited India as reasons for going nuclear or reneging on NPT, not Pakistan. Surprised India has never signed any NPT or CTBT but still Iran drags India in between. Iran is doing pure business just like china, they are selling gas at a market price (with take it or leave it condition), no thought to old friendship or even long term customer. It along with Pakistan has threatened to bypass India and make it a China pipe line.
On the other hand, India has lot to loose if it abandons USA for Iran. Economically, technologically and also militarily, China despite all odds with USA over Taiwan goes all out (pants down) to court USA. Pakistan despite all Jihadi stories and protest is running after USA. Whole world sways by the USA policy. India abandoning USA will be a policy peril decision, and won%u2019t be surprised whether our MEA / or ministers (Vote banks), who can sell their country if they can gain something, will think on it.
Let us change these bunches of short sighted and selfish politicians in India who hide fact and mislead common people.
RE:See facts : IRAN IS NOT THE FRIEND, WHO CAN HELP US
by Jitendra Madhav on May 03, 2008 01:42 PM Permalink
Agree, and Iran has behaved badly in the pipeline...and Indian foregien policy makers present themselves like puppys
Just to attract Muslim votes, UPA is ready to help Islamic terrorists in Iran, Porkistan and Afghanistan.
RISK: "the physical security of the pipeline that will extend over 2,600 kms from Iran through Pakistan to India. The latter aspect has become central since three quarters of the transit route will be through the Baluchistan province in Pakistan which has a history of local opposition to gas pipelines and Islamabad has not been able to prevent attacks by Baluch rebels on Pakistan's domestic gas pipelines."
BOTH IRAN AND USA FEEL CLOSER TO INDIA AND INDIA HAS A LEADING ROLE TO PLAY TO MAINTAIN THE EQUILIBRIUM OF RELATIONSHIP BY ADOPTING THE POLICY ON WHICH THE TWO NATION WOULD FEEL EQUALLY IMPORTANT AND THE ONUS OF THE DETERMINING THE CAUTION AND EXTENT TO WHICH INDIA SHOULD GO AHEAD WITH ANY OF THE COUNTRY LIES WITH LEADERSHIP OF INDIA AND NOT WITH ANY OF THE TWO COUNTRIES
RE:IRAN -INDIA-US RELATIONSHIP
by Vikas on May 02, 2008 06:40 PM Permalink
ISRAEL is Indias largest defence partner. Iran president has publicly threatened to destroy ISRAEL, as Mulsims say the biggest enemy of Islam.
Kasmiri and Porkistani terroirsts say India is the biggest enemy of Islam along with USA and Israel.
Just to attract Muslim votes, Congress and Left are selling India to Islamic terrorists.
RE:RE:IRAN -INDIA-US RELATIONSHIP
by Vasanth Srinivas on May 03, 2008 12:30 AM Permalink
Israel is not going to touch India by any means. But morons like you in the name of swami vivekananda and islamic terrorists will destroy our mother land. Dont forget that it was Israel who helped India during kargil war to get back the Porks occupied land. Israel is more important to India than muslim votes
RE:IRAN GAS
by on May 03, 2008 03:23 AM Permalink
please for the love of god, read what you are about to post. your comment has 0% intelligence and 100% emotion. india is NOT self-sufficient in its energy needs and needs to export. i would rather that india postures itself into a position where it can benefit from oil and gas from the middle east than allow it to get to china to fuel its growth. but more than that, india has genuine NEED for it and demand will only grow as it grows stronger; economically and politically.
RE:IRAN GAS
by Krishna on May 02, 2008 04:45 PM Permalink
India needs Oil. India also needs Gas. Without them, Indians can't survive for a Single Day. IPI transnational pipeline is a pioneering initiative that came about the right time, when India is starting to mend it's relations with Pakistan. Development of South Asia is in the interest of all it's constituent nations. India's development is in the interest of Pakistan and vice-versa. Gas pipeline from Iran will play a vital role in it if it is successfully implemented.
Irrespective of what the US may think, we have no option but to go on with improving our ties with Iran. We need more and more energy to keep up or growth rate, and Iran can be a useful contributor in that regard. The US nuclear deal may be affected, but the fact remains, that right now, Oil and Gas contribute much more than nuclear energy. This situation is likely to remain for quite some years to come. The pipeline through Baluchistan would however be risky, since Pakistan seems to be unable to protect their own pipelines in that region.
Around 100 years before, India as well as the remaining world were able to live without nuclear energy as well as without petroleum products and natural gas.
Today, we are not able to live without them. Isn't it amazing?
We made this world a dangerous place to live. Nuclear waste, pllution, global warming and so on.
Who are "developed" and "advanced"? We or our ancestors?
RE:Amazing
by yousef aslam on May 02, 2008 06:22 PM Permalink
100 years back, population was just below 150 million in india, and now it is over 1 billion.
Tell me how the needs of 1 billion people will be met, with out hydrocarbons. Do you suggest us to go back to stone age & bullock carts???
Let me tell you, we are advances by miles than our ancestors. We have been told by our ancestors not to cross the ocean and it is a sin. We did not care, and now we can send 10 satellites in a single mission. We are able to reach Kashmir from Kanyakumari in a day. We are able to transport wheat from Punjab to South in couple of days. We have more people and so more requirements.
So, as long as water cannot make a IC engine to work, we need fuel. Any silly arguments will not help it,not even our ancestors, it needs fuel, f......u.....e......l
RE:India must keep away from US as well as Iran
by on May 03, 2008 03:14 AM Permalink
"our scientists may be slow...", "develop nuclear power indigenously...". idiot.
ignorant people like you annoy the heck out of me. do you even know anything about the indian civilian nuclear program before you go around commenting on it? do you know that our stage 1 phwrs output world class performance? do you know that our stage 2 fast breeder reactors contain some of the most advanced technology globally? do you know that our stage 3 thorium based reactors are not only the most technologically advanced, but are also unique in the world? not only have the thorium based reactors met their tech objectives, we are already constructing the stage 3 reactors in tandem with our stage 2 reactors.
nuclear tech has already been DEVELOPED in india and is one of the most advanced in the world. it is not a question of scientific or engineering capability. it is a question of political will AND funding to the nuclear programme. it is a matter of DEPLOYMENT.
