RE:Someone has to hand over suitcase Nukes to Tibet so that Tibetian can Carry and Explode in Beijing, Shanghai, Shenzhen and Guongdong
by Astute Analyst on Mar 19, 2008 09:24 PM Permalink
What will you get in return except a perverse satisfaction?
RE:Someone has to hand over suitcase Nukes to Tibet so that Tibetian can Carry and Explode in Beijing, Shanghai, Shenzhen and Guongdong
by ghanchakker on Mar 19, 2008 09:39 PM Permalink
Tibetans even if given nukes will not take it to China but THEY WILL GLADLY BRING FROM CHINA ALL LUXURY PRODUCTS AND SELL IN THEIR SHOPS TO INDIANS SUCH AS YOU ! SO CALLED TIBETAN REFUGEES WILL NEVER GIVE UP THEIR REFUGEE STATUS! THEY DO NOT WANT TIBET FREEDOM BUT REFUGGE STATUS AND FINANCIAL GRANTS FRON UN AND US! AND ARE NOW COMFORTABLE WITH THEIR LIVING IN USA , CANADA AND OTHER WESTERN COUNTRIES AND IN INDIA WHERE THEY ARE DOING GOOD BUSINESS AND SELLING CHINESE PRODUCTS TO INDIANS !
RE:Someone has to hand over suitcase Nukes to Tibet so that Tibetian can Carry and Explode in Beijing, Shanghai, Shenzhen and Guongdong
by Erasmus on Mar 19, 2008 09:32 PM Permalink
Except for analyzing the problem in some 2 cross 2 framework. What tangible solution do you have to offer Mr Astute Analyst?
RE:Someone has to hand over suitcase Nukes to Tibet so that Tibetian can Carry and Explode in Beijing, Shanghai, Shenzhen and Guongdong
by Astute Analyst on Mar 19, 2008 09:41 PM Permalink
I think we should support autonomy in Tibet but not Dalai Lama. China will be ready to sign a decent deal on the border issue. The reason why China does not agree on McMohan line is because a Tibetan representative was a party to the conference where the line was finalized. These are my suggestions.
Uprising of any kind against any govt is a warning that all is not well and things cannot be taken for granted.The Tibeten uprising is class in itself and a warning to the Chinese communists that they can no longer suppress the peoples aspiration.If China has any regard to the world public opinion, instead of using arms against innocent civilians, it should call the leadership to talk to them and address their grievances.The early they do, it is better for them.What Chinese authorities fail to understand is this uprising is the beginning and it will spread like a wild fire to other parts of China where people are equally suppressed. Before it spreads to other areas, the Chinese Authorities would do well to understand the problem and solve them.It is possible that some Dalai Lama in some parts of China where people are equally unhappy may rise in revolt against the strict communist regime and do maximum damage to them. It is in their larger interest like what they did on economic front changing before world changes them. Popular mood in the world is that China should talk to either Dalai lama or other representatives of the demonstrators in Lahasa immediately. India on its part should press home this point. There is another place where such uprising is waiting to erupt is Burma.Here also popular democratic movement is being suppressed by the ruling Military Junta and their leader Sui Kuyi is under house arrest.Taking cue from the situation in Lahasa, they should talk to her al
RE:Tibetien Uprising - China Beware
by Singha on Mar 19, 2008 09:43 PM Permalink
sulle...perhaps u r not aware that lot of hui sullahs have settled in lhasa. Tibetians burned the mosque in lhasa and drove hui out. Tibetians like Hindus dislike both the totalitarians - islamists as well as communists.
RE:Tibetien Uprising - China Beware
by Astute Analyst on Mar 19, 2008 09:54 PM Permalink
The Hui and Han, both are attacked. Feudal lamas backed by CIA can use religion to instigate poor Tibetans.
RE:Tibetien Uprising - China Beware
by Astute Analyst on Mar 19, 2008 09:27 PM Permalink
Your solution to the Tibet problem is perfect. Negotiations and political compromise is the best way forward.
RE:Tibetien Uprising - China Beware
by Erasmus on Mar 19, 2008 09:32 PM Permalink
Except for analyzing the problem in some 2 cross 2 framework. What tangible solution do you have to offer Mr Astute Analyst?
RE:Tibetien Uprising - China Beware
by Astute Analyst on Mar 19, 2008 09:43 PM Permalink
I think we should support autonomy for Tibet but not Dalai Lama. China will be ready to sign a decent deal on the border issue. The reason why China does not agree on McMohan line is because a Tibetan representative was a party to the conference where the line was finalized. These are my suggestions.
RE:Tibetien Uprising - China Beware
by Singha on Mar 19, 2008 09:24 PM Permalink
I think, tibetians are moderate. uighur gonna import nukes from pakland and explod in guongdong, shenzhen, shanghai, beijing et. al.
Then chinese gonna free eastern turkistan (Khamboja?) and Tibet.
like islamists, only language chinese communists understand is superior violence.
RE:RE:Tibetien Uprising - China Beware
by Astute Analyst on Mar 19, 2008 09:29 PM Permalink
I fail to understand what will you gain if Shanghai and Beijing are nuked. Instead why don't you go and visit the nice cities as a tourist?
Whatever China is doing might be right or wrong... i am not concerned with that... but atleast India needs to learn from China and should build courage to crack down on Moist, Naxals, Terrorist... They have given away our Kashmir to pakistan and is now no more considered in Indian Maps too... If China would have been in place of India.. They would have never let it go... Kashmir is no more Hindu state ... same way other states are falling in the hands of Terroist.... India has to think 100 times to hang terrorist who has attacked parliament... what the hell government is doing....
RE:India need to learn from China
by Astute Analyst on Mar 19, 2008 09:21 PM Permalink
I agree that we should crack down of anti-national forces with a firmness equal to China. However, China finds it easier since it is not a democracy whereas our governments are concerned about the media fallout of a crackdown
Dalai Lama is an honorable person and quite modern in his outlook though his CIA financers made him come out in support of a cruel dictator of Chile Augusto Pinochet. The Lama rule before the communist takeover of China was one of the most inhuman rules in the world. I support Tibetan autonomy but not the return to Lama rule.
RE:Support Tibetan autonomy, not Lama rule
by Erasmus on Mar 19, 2008 09:35 PM Permalink
Tid bits of general knowledge from here and there, and you arrive at conclusion that he is financed by CIA and supports dictators.
If India wants to solve Kashmir issue. Then India must allies with USA. US is real democracy and their national interest not harm India. India allies with western world will make India as superpower.
Same time India have to use tit for tat policy for China as
China has boundary issue to nearly all their neighbour. No one can trust on China.
Fact is violence is the only Solution Tibet problem. For that Tibetean have to take weapons in hand. India must provide weapons to Tibetan. As China supplied to Pak and NE-militant.
India have to supply nuke to Taiwan.
India and US need to support east-Turkistan freedom movement.
India and US need to support democracy movement in China which will leads to civil war.
Once Tibet liberated from China, India and Tibet have to take initiative to merge Tibet in India. Because of same culture and ideology.
RE:MY TIBET
by Astute Analyst on Mar 19, 2008 09:17 PM Permalink
To set the facts right, Sheikh Abdullah was detained following his meeting widh Adlai Stevenson, the US amabssador who promised independence to Kashmir in return of agreeing to become a puppet state of US. What shall we get by supporting Tibetan independence? Instead, we should pressurise China to sign a fresh border agreement where we get a good deal. And East Turkestan, do we have few Islamic countries around to create one more?
as i read recently it is stated that so called Tibetan Refugees will not give up their Refugee Status!even if given an opportunity to go to tibet tyhey will never go to Tibet!they are using the tibetan issue to get sympthy and prepetual Refugee Status!the so called Tibetan Refugees settled in us , canada and other western countries and in india who are well settled and doing good business (selling Chinese products)in their shops all over india ! will never give up their Refugee status!they are using the aggression of china in Tibet for garnering sympathy and refugee status and financial grants from UN , US !they are only providing lip service to real Tibetans and are in fact using then for their motives of retaining Refugee Status !
In this hour when the leftist chinese government has shown its imperialistic bent of mind and tried to curb the protests through brutal force our Left Friends of India are conspicuous by there absence. The same coterie which jumps on to anything regarding suppresion of peoples voice (though with no heart in it) and professes the right of the common man has comfortably sat back and watched the oppressions in Tibet with glee. This is very depressing and exposes the so-called perty of principles. Shame on you!
as i read recently it is stated that so called Tibetan Refugees will not give up their Refugee Status!even if given an opportunity to go to tibet tyhey will never go to Tibet!they are using the tibetan issue to get sympthy and prepetual Refugee Status!the so called Tibetan Refugees settled in us , canada and other western countries and in india who are well settled and doing good business (selling Chinese products)in their shops all over india ! will never give up their Refugee status!they are using the aggression of china in Tibet for garnering sympathy and refugee status and financial grants from UN , US !they are only providing lip service to real Tibetans and are in fact using then for their motives of retaining Refugee Status !
