Its a shame for us to have an argument with China on Arunachal Pradesh. It is our land and India should tell them on their face that neither you own Tibet so there is no point you asking about Arunachal Pradesh. We should give a befitting reply to China so that they can feel the pinch and refrain from the hostility.
RE:A good point about Twang(Arunachal Pradesh)
by Anubhav Lal on Mar 20, 2008 09:41 AM Permalink
Reply - like we gave in 1962 !!! Even when our armed forces courageously fought ( my full respect to every soldier) I dont think our govt will have any courage to speak against China. What if Mr Karat withdraws support !!!!
Buddism will stay safe among Indians, no blowing of Buddha statues as it happened in Afganistan..
by D S on Mar 20, 2008 08:36 AM Permalink | Hide replies
INDIA IS best society, we did not anhilate the natives like that happened in North AMerica or South-America. Imposed a different identity and religion on them and then make them a fashion item. Neither has India propaganda machine to defend themselves. The Indo-Aryans learnt Hinduism, Caste and spicy food from native Indians and we still preserve good or bad of what they taught use. We also learnt local dravid languages from them when we moved there. THE GHORA'S SLOWLY WIPE OUT IDENTITY (LANGUAGE, DRESS AND EVEN RELIGION) ANY ONE WHO COMES TO THEIR LAND OR TRADE's WITH THEM. All this BS of right is baloney when identity of person is wiped out. A shudra can be rich in India and still say that he belong to Kunja tribe of Jharkhand. Nothing like that when you mingle with Ghora's from West or East Europe anywhere in the world. arabs did no different to the world where they interacted. THE YOGIC AND VEDANTIC INDO-ARYAN WERE AND ARE THE BEST IN THEIR SPIRTS. THE BIGGES HARAMIS ARE THE Ghora's and chinese are aping their "gun is power" logic of Russian and Angrez.
RE:Buddism will stay safe among Indians, no blowing of Buddha statues as it happened in Afganistan..
by Santosh on Mar 20, 2008 09:12 AM Permalink
Are you still hung up on the Aryan Invasion theory. That is one of the biggest social experiment of the West in India. It is a total lie. People of all kinds are native to India. Recall the recent excavations in different parts of India which totally negate AI theory. According to the Western concotion Aryans came to India around 2000 BC. The recent excavations in Orissa seems to be of a city about 3500 years old which depicts the same culture as that of the so called aryan invaders. AIT is the brain child of a German historian Max muller which was later adopted by british to further their divide and rule policy.
RE:Buddism will stay safe among Indians, no blowing of Buddha statues as it happened in Afganistan..
by Vishwas/Jeff on Mar 20, 2008 10:09 AM Permalink
I agree with Santosh.. In my opinion aryan invasion theory is all BS.. All Indians are natives.. It makes me laugh when some people actually believe that their ancestors came from europe...
Free Tibet will be a dream unless they do some meaningful things. Get the help of stronger nation and they can definetly involve US since US is looking for a base near to China. Another suggestion is Tibetians should do aggressive hunger strike and couple of deaths will open world's eye against china. Thirdly, get India and Russia involved and pressurise china. Since there is a change of Regime in Russia, it will favour western power house lead my US and it will be a unilateral power against china This kind of nonviolence led my His holiness is absurd and wastage of time and resources. How it is going to impact China that too from refugee camp?
RE:What Tibetens should do?
by Santosh on Mar 20, 2008 09:04 AM Permalink
Wht do you think US will support Tibet's cause. Chinese has financed American debt's over the years and low cost chinese goods are critical to keep infaltion down in US. US needs China as much as China needs US. And anyway, US has proved over time that they are in the game only for themselves and will go to any extent to secure their interests. The bloody murders of hundred thousands during Nixon/Kissinger era and its equivalent in the Bush era in Iraq are examples. They will support terrorist and leftist governments when it suits them and oppose when it suits them. Relying on US for anything is naive. Tibetans are our own brothers and we owe it to them to support them in their cause. If not we should be ready to part with UP and eastern states in times to come.
The Dalai Lama is a nice honourable man. He is too nice and too honourable for today's rough and ruthless world. He is a man fit for heaven, and not this ugly, greedy world that we live in. He still preaches non-violence to his people, even when they are being shot in the streets. He even threatened to resign if the violence didn't stop, thereby shielding his oppressor. I think he is an honourable man, and respect him, but I am not as noble as he, and I think that we Indians should help the Tibetans by telling them to fight China's invasion. You know China craves our Indian land too. Better to confront them sooner, rather than later, when they cut off our river water.
This whole mess is caused by the spineless coward Dalai Lama. He doesn't want freedom for his people but some fake autonomy. Dream on Dalai. You gotta take the fight to the enemy. China will never willingly grant autonomy, but they can be forced by the people to grant freedom. They are just waiting for that old fool to die.
my message to people of tibet live free or die. Don't listen to that fool or china will crush you like bugs.
One of my co-workers here in the U.S. spoke about what recently happened in Lhasa. He seems to be a geniune and credible guy. Here is what he said: 1. The riots and murdering were carried out by Tibetan monks and youth. They aimed at attacking innocent shop keepers and residents. It was nothing like a peaceful demonstrations. Nothing is related to religions or political freedom. 2. No country, including the U.S., will tolerate this type of criminal acts. 3. The Tibetan refugee community, and the refugee governments, receive secret funding and finance from special organizations in the Western countries, such as CIA. The fundings are budgeted based on how much anti-China campaign and actions executed annually. 4. Tibetan by large, enjoy a life much better than those in exile could never dreamed of. However, the western media continue to instigate hatred and violence into younger generation. 5. Peace will prevail in Tibet.
RE:Facts
by on Mar 20, 2008 09:35 AM Permalink
The tibetan refugees has mixed with the local people in different parts of the country especially Drajeeling, acquired indian citizenship and hold posts in the govt..and here this rimpochee says that his comminity does not involve in any political activity...Its high time that the govt of india realises this and keeps these tibetans as refugees...they are like parasite to india....
RE:Facts
by Anubhav Lal on Mar 20, 2008 09:46 AM Permalink
If CIA is funding anyone against China it is in India's interest. The problem is what will happen if Mr Karat again threatens of pulling down the government. There was a recent amendment in the constitution where it takes only 35 - 50 MPs to pass a no-confidence motion. :-) And our communist strength in parliament is just a little less than that !!!
Tibet is so called because in Vedic scriptures it is called TRIBHETA where Mrityulok, Devlok and Swargalok met. Indeed, it is heaven on the earth. Tibet was and should always be the integral part of Greater India that should also include so called artificially created Pakistan. Afterall, Mount Kailash is the abode of Lord Shiva. India should do EVERYTHING TO ENSURE FREEDOM OF TIBET FROM Evil regime of CHINA. Nehru created TIBET debacle by turning a blind eye to its invasion and rejected help by AMERICA. BK Nehru, India's ambassador to USA at that time declined offer of help at the instruction of J M Nehru. The descendants of his family at present are worsrning the situation and acting against the interest of India.I fully agree with samdhong Ringpoche that INDIA has more inner strength and power than China and current leaders in INDIA are not realising this fact and are psychologically suffering from inferiority complex. India must stand upto China-Pakistan axis and regain Independence of Tibet and Liberate Pakistan and reintegrate into a Greater India. Once accomplished, India will be a great and prosperous nation of FREE PEOPLE which is what China and Pakistan were never before and never will be in future. Rakesh Gupta
The lady says lines are blurred on Tawang, she says China is more powerful, next she talks about development in Tibet. Is she Indian or Chinese ? She needs a crash course on importance of freedo, I liked the response where Mr.Rinpoche says, "people like you should know".
True, she has no right to stop anyone from protesting as long they don't resort to violence in India. If not for stupid Indira gandhi, the loser Gandhi-nehru that lynches India, Bangladesh could be autonomous part of India and not anti-India as it is today. Seems like some people want something to talk or want to be heard as people who know much better. But not on this occasion.
RE: RE:Sheela Bhatt is Real Filth
by durga raj on Mar 20, 2008 09:44 AM Permalink
you r absolutely right this situation is because of BK ghandhi-nehru poltics
