i think v can more proactive stance,but not a clear support. In our relation with china,v haveto analyse other boundary issues also. they are trying to breach the line of control and want to take some part from ap and kashmir. To prevent this atlease we haveto help tibetans.
RE:indian government stance
by Neha Chadda on Mar 19, 2008 11:15 AM Permalink
China is not Pakistan mere bhaiya, India cannot get away if it spreads terrorism in China just like it gets away with Pakistan (Example Sarabjit - indian terrorist who blasted and killed 100 in his act, now of couse heis going to be hanged for his crimes).
un says a poll must b conducted for finding whether kashmir need independence!!! and will u conduct poll ???
tibet was/is/and will be integral part of china for at least 1 millenium...
u ppl can bark after another 1000 years abt tibetian independence..china is the new superpower and no country including ur master nation--usa dont even dream abt challenging them..
RE:tibet was/is and will be integral part of china....no use of dreaming
by bhavdeep on Mar 19, 2008 11:23 AM Permalink
U SHAME LESS CHINA SUPPORTERS! Do whatever. China can by force and crulity can rule Tiebat. But REMEBER One Day It will Die its Own DEATH. What you sow so shall you reap! GOD's justice when prevails China will have no one to blame but will bleed. See the example of Pakistan it trained terrorists against India now it is getting attacked by those people itself. Fromer USSR also so broke. What I see is that China represents the animal Dragon which will be biten by ants. That way China will die.
RE:tibet was/is and will be integral part of china....no use of dreaming
by shivpujan on Mar 19, 2008 11:20 AM Permalink
This is a stupid statement by narayan. Tibet was an independent nation before Chine occupied it in 50s/60s. Comparing it with kashmir is another idiotic statement. kashmir has always been an integral part of India. I think some communist/ Chinese is writing in name of Narayan.There should be some limit to telling lies.
RE:tibet was/is and will be integral part of china....no use of dreaming
by Neha Chadda on Mar 19, 2008 11:13 AM Permalink
Only very stupid people who live in dream world underestimate CHINA.
Thanfully sanity prevails in Government of India and it treats China as a best friend.
RE:tibet was/is and will be integral part of china....no use of dreaming
by avtar priyadarshan on Mar 19, 2008 11:19 AM Permalink
is/and will is fine. But Tibet was never a integral part of China . It was forcefuly annexed in 1950s. Tibet used to have their own Kings and Armies and there were times when Tibetans won Wars against the chinese.....U need to read before u open ur foul mouth Mr Narayan. and the people who sitting at the top think just the way u do and thats the reason we are laughed all over. Stand up and show some bravery man......we have enough cowards like u already...
RE:RE:tibet was/is and will be integral part of china....no use of dreaming
by narayan on Mar 19, 2008 11:15 AM Permalink
well said...u r absolutely correct..
infact many ppl here r paid agents of cia and wants war b/w china and india at any cost
RE:tibet was/is and will be integral part of china....no use of dreaming
by Upendra Dashputre on Mar 19, 2008 11:21 AM Permalink
On every single New item I see this anti-India fool called Narayn expressing stupid views ..
Thank god Narayan you are not in China; otherwise you would have been in some dark jail for expressing unpatriotic views.
If India wanna superpower and resolve Kashmir issue. The solution is go with western world. Use tit for tat tactics for China.
1. Help with nuke to Taiwan as China supply nuke to Pak. 2. Support East Turksthan freedosm movement and democracy movemnt which wll start civil war in China. 3. Force for merger of Tibet in India at any cost with anyones help like NATO. Bcoz Tibet was integral part of ascent India.
and result is upto 2050 China will be weeker nationa and India will be superpower.
RE:superpower
by Upendra Dashputre on Mar 19, 2008 11:23 AM Permalink
Not exactly ... every big achievement looks like a dream before you achieve it ..
Dear friends, I found a lot of message here against the Indian govt. Dear, friends, please tell us, each of you, if you were in this postion (govt's position) what you have done. I think India handled it very diplomatically. Muslims in Kashmir are fighting for their freedom!!! Then, why indian govt. is not allowing kashmiri's to select there own people. In case of Tibet, you want to support Tibetians. In the case of Kashmir, you want to support Indian govt. I don't understand the logic. We had a long histroy that most of the time we tried to solve our issues by dialogue. India (govt) never said that tibetians are wrong in there freedom struggle. I think all tibetians should go to tibet and fight against chinease rule. They can't make violet protest in India. India is reposible for if any tragedy occur to any other national in India. So India told the violet protestors india to keep quiet. Can you show me any other country where these tibetians are making violent protests (except china). Like any other country men this tibetians also thought that they can do any nonsence in India. But India was not willing to tolerate that. It is a good decision by India.
RE:Hello
by bhavdeep on Mar 19, 2008 11:27 AM Permalink
Looks like communist part has asked its memeber sto write messages here to create Pro China culture. If you support Genocides then you are not human. Some has to rise up. Stop acting as paid chinese agent
Mr Chethil there is no wrong in double standard. When China openly helping Indias enemys, and claming Indian territory then why we should quite. Tibet is integral part ascent India and at any cost Tibet should merge in India. BIG NATION IS STRONG NATION. Even US will also support it. We have to be friendly with real democracies like USA and europe. Histroy proved that countries with US are always benifited. US never claimed Indian territory. Try to understand that China can not be safe if they have border to India. Tibet should be buffer country between India or China like Bhutan. Or Tibet should be part of India like Sikkim.
RE:Hello
by mohit gupta on Mar 19, 2008 10:57 AM Permalink
i totally agree with u chethil. indian govt. has correctly handled this issue. most of the ppl in this discussion are only talking against chinese government. also, i dont think that kashmir can be compared with tibet. the ppl of kashmir are selecting their own representatives and are freely exercising their religion (i agree that many kashmiri hindus have to fly but situation is getting good day by day in the valley). but in tibet, ppl cannot choose their representatives, they are being forced to adopt chinese culture. their school syllabus does not give them any insight to their own identity and just have praise of chinese govt. and any voice of unrest is brutally crucified. so, situation for ppl of tibet is really very bad.
RE:Hello
by PKR on Mar 19, 2008 11:03 AM Permalink
Mr Sudheesh sorry, Kashmiris never asked for freedom.It is Pak propaganda, which ,chinese have been covertly supporting . Pak has given Hindukush areas of pak occupied Kashmir to chinese and bought them over.Late Nehrus accepetence UN resolution for plebicite on Kashmir was and cannot be implemented Reasons a long story.So dont equate Kashmir to Tibet.Tibet was captured by chinese and people were forced to come as refugees.We are not making noise(as it happened in Burma) becoz we do not have military, economic might of chinese as of now Also China is Permanent member of Security council in UN with veto powers They will screw us there also. It is more out impotence we are forced to keep our trap shut
i am sorry but i think that there r lot of ppl who r slaves of america and maybe paid agents of cia..
its time u ppl must wake up from ur dream and starts thinking patriotically like indian communists.and i never wrote anything against his holiness dalai lama..wht i want is ppl must understand the conspiracy against india and china done by the western imperialists so as to make a war b/w india and china in the name of tibet and prevent both from emerging as superpowers !!!!
indian govt must find out the opinion of prakash karat and send yechury to china for reconciliation talks b/w tibet and chinese communists..the common threat to world is the bourgeois culture of usa and both india and china along with entire islamic world suffers from this disease
RE:understand the anti-india and anti-china imperialistic agenda of usa
by Umesh Sharma on Mar 19, 2008 10:59 AM Permalink
narayan, pls dont talk crap, prakash karat cannot sttle his own party probs what are u talking abot solving tibets prob. india states kasmir is our internal matter, china says tibet is theirs. let the tibetans fight their batlle from their own country and spare us the diplomatic probs. one will agree it is economic sense to trade with china, and it will be political harakiri to support tibet.
RE:understand the anti-india and anti-china imperialistic agenda of usa
by PKR on Mar 19, 2008 11:07 AM Permalink
Then why commies are not protesting against chinese genocide in Tibet? They claim they are against oppression world over Then why this silence over Tibet? Told by chinese to keep quiet?
RE:RE:understand the anti-india and anti-china imperialistic agenda of usa
by narayan on Mar 19, 2008 11:12 AM Permalink
answer is imple....there is no genocide in tibet and tibet is integral part of china just like kashmir is for india..
RE:understand the anti-india and anti-china imperialistic agenda of usa
by bhagat singh on Mar 19, 2008 11:22 AM Permalink
Go and bark in China and also wave your tail to please your master
It is like forcing a son/daughter in law to live in a joint family. I am sure just as nuclear famillies are replacing joint families so will there be small independednt countries. You can not just hold them up by force or they will always be a perennial bleeding wound. The matter can be resolved either by China winning the hearts of Tebetans by ensuring equity, democracy and peace. If they cannot protect human rights and provide a conducive environment for preservation of unique culture of Tibet,Tibetans have every right to seek independence and preserve their culture.
It is high time that we desist from supporting the betrayers i.e. the Chinese and the so called Leftists. We have to support the local Tibetans who will lift the spirit of other Tibetans particularly those who are disliked by Chinese. Like the leftists the Chinese are also cheats. The so called meeting for nuclear deal with Pronab Mukherjee who is sent to Lok Sabha for the first time with congress ticket to get the leftists desire fulfilled and obviously received Padma Vibhushan was a farce.. The leftist want to enjoy the luxury of MP posts to the end. TheyWNCnDwill never ever will withdraw support as they are aware cong. will take full advantage of that situation. particularly with 6th pay pay commission report to be submitted.
China occupies huge parts of Indian territory against all international norms. It claims entire Arunachal Pradesh. It indulges in regular incursion into Indian territory--not on foot, but on armored vehicles.
Still Govt of India considers China a "friendly" country? It is shameful for the nation. Govt of India perhaps does not even realize its obligation to unity and integrity of India.
When it comes to Palestine we cry hoarse. But on Tibet, we have become an accomplice of an undemocratic, draconian, not-believing-in-free-speech nation. It is shame for the entire India, and all Indians.
RE:Why Govt of India considers China a ''friendly'' country?
by sorab singh on Mar 19, 2008 10:17 AM Permalink
Lets face it India is Afraid of China!! VEry much
RE:Why Govt of India considers China a ''friendly'' country?
by faisal tabrez on Mar 19, 2008 11:18 AM Permalink
Once China gets to sort out Tibetan issue and does enough of infrastructure it will get ready to encroach our border. They wont let us be in peae as their plans are wierd. They have plans to diverge Ganges and Brahmputra to their mainland and irrigate the unfertile lands. For the same they need to mum Tibet since as long Tibet cries China's energy will be diverted in managing tibet and projects. Chinese Govt is very sincere in their effort. Their strategy is stepped. First social silence, then infrastructure development, military moblization and then further encrochment of Indias border. Issue is even today India is not ready to even address the problem. Day is not far away if China gets to manage Tibeta sooner we will face the heat sooner. Only way to prevent the same is making China busy with Tibet. Cost may be higher but it is the only way out.
RE:Why Govt of India considers China a ''friendly'' country?
by rohit on Mar 19, 2008 10:21 AM Permalink
You are right! The Govt don't have the guts to stand up against china.
RE:Why Govt of India considers China a ''friendly'' country?
by Atanu Gupta on Mar 19, 2008 11:02 AM Permalink
Lefts needs a good muther kii from all Indians
It is inappropriate to not think from China's point of view.. imagine how would u as Indian feel if people of J&K start doing something like people of Tibet did....I geuss most readers would agree that it is best left to China to decide.
Mind u I m not favouring China but its just a simple Godaam Logic.
RE:It is internal matter of China just like J&K is ours
by Freedom on Mar 19, 2008 10:47 AM Permalink
Keep Shut!
Kashmir is a part of India and Pak went for a war in 1947 itself and illegally occupied parts of Kashmir and later is on a indirect war for the Kashmir which is with India now.
Tibet being a independent nation was illegally conquered by the Chinese forces during 1950s by a war. The chinese after finishing Tibet, occupied parts of India's Northern territory and shameless claim Arunachal now.
(Many dont know that before china captured Tibet, India was proving security for Tibetan borders to China.)
