Shivaji's father was shaji and his father came from Udaipur Rajasthan.they were sisodiya rajput.his father was senapati in adilshah royalty.will shivsena disown this third genration parpranti?
no doubt Chhatrapti Shivaji Maharaj was an emperor & his history is purposely hidden by pseudo secular parties like congress & communists to win some mean votes from ignorant people
RE:no doubt Chhatrapti Shivaji Maharaj was an emperor & his history is purposely hidden by pseudo secular parties like congress & communists to win some mean votes from ignorant people
by Freedom on Mar 13, 2008 10:44 AM Permalink
That's all right, but for the first time Indian Rulers are suppose to committ a SIN by backing a deadly genocide of Hindu Tamils in Sri Lanka.
All the western countries from US, UK to France and Japen had kept off themselves from supporting any sort of Tamil Genocide in Sri Lanka. Since the Militarist Govt of Sri Lanked abondened the Cease Fire these nations had refused to give military or economic support to SL.
But it is only Congress Centred India who is backing hard the SL and providing military and economic aid to it.
Hindu Tamils are whom take Swami Vivekananda to Nethaji as fine examples in their daily life. They look at Sivaji like Hindu Kings as how we see and have great respect over India and How can we back stab them again???
Sivaji-The Boss. He is a software system atchitect who return from US to Chennai and opens a medical university to help poor people. He also dances and sings with shreya. He got great support from Shankar,A.R.Rahman.
RE:HISTORY OF JIHAD (ISLAMIC CRIMANLITY)
by md alam on Mar 13, 2008 10:36 AM Permalink
dear friend muslim ne to kabhi kabhi jihad kiya hai lekin tumlog to from origin of mankind se ab tak aur pata nahi kab tak insaniyat ke lia khatranak ho aur rahoge
RE:HISTORY OF JIHAD (ISLAMIC CRIMANLITY)
by The Brain on Mar 13, 2008 10:25 AM Permalink
I think you only have this statistic to show and everytime you hit this forum, you type out the same message which doesn't have any authentication.. moreover, you cannot even differenciate between Jihad and Terrorism...
Kill Kafir Convert others in Islam Do jihad , Bomb blast, kill people and get 72 virgins in heaven for girls and boys
Why Quran does not say:
Come out of Ghetto. don't be poor be educated, nice human being respect other religion and people Live in peace ,Live and Let live Why not to be good scientist and businessman engineers and doctors..
I know many of you will say this and that person is scientist, doctors , engineers, educators.. but how many... compare to your population why most of the muslims are fanatic, live in ghetto.
Why muslims need book to live life, why they can not have their own decision depending on situatios. They can not distinguish good and bad based on humanity, they follow book which was written 1500 years back in the context of that era but that book does not have meaning in modern world. That book can have meaningful things for modern world but not all...
Muslims use your brains not brain of the book which is outdated...
RE:What Quran says
by Pradeep Kumar on Mar 13, 2008 10:27 AM Permalink
Hahaha :D Drunkard... so u keep updating books is it according to ur whims and fancies ;D
RE:What Quran says
by faraz khan on Mar 13, 2008 10:39 AM Permalink
I believe that you have a very little knowledge about Quran...
Quran does not say that kill people, Bomb blast etc..ISLAM is the religion of peace and humanity..Quran strongly said that do not force anybody to convert in Islam..
Quran is a spirtual book...there is no writer of this book..Quran is not just a book , its teach us to how to live , teach us to help poors, teach us not hurt anybody, love children, obey elders...
This is true that Quran came onto the earth 1500 years back..But the things which is in the Quran, are keep on emerging even now as well..Our brain is Quran because it tell us meaningful things which are beneficial for all not only human being but all living ,static and dynamic things...
I requested to all my brothers and sisters (belongs to any religion), not to support these kind of leaders..there main moto is to devide ourself in the name of our religion...pl ignore that kind of statements....
Shivaji's father was shaji and his father came from Udaipur Rajasthan.they were sisodiya rajput.his father was senapati in adilshah royalty.will shivsena disown this third genration parpranti?
1. dacoits do not build permanent home with the fear of attack same shivaji didnt have big forts like forts of mughals or rajasthani kings because mughals and rajsthani kings had courage they could save their their fort so they had courage to live in fort but shivaji and his men used to stay in small hill top gadhis and when mughal sena used to come to beat them they were running in forsets leaving their gadhis and when mughals gone they will return and ask farmers chauth but they didnt nothing to save farmers from mughals ...
RE:SIMILARITIES BETWEEN SHIVAJI AND DAKU ( DACOITS )
by Chanakya on Mar 13, 2008 10:28 AM Permalink
rajesh - it is a utter shame that you, being and Indian (industani) or Hindu, writing such unpatriotic comments in this forum. You totally lack knowledge in History - as far as my understanding goes on King Shivaji, in those days, the mughals have invaded India and making it a totally pro-muslim country by killing hindus, subjecting them to injustice, marrying and or raping the hindu females, making them slaves to quench their lust etc. King Shivaji is one of those patriotic Indian who, with his limited force and support, fought with these mughals in every way he could. While he knew very well that a straight fight would not be successful, he adopted the other way to resist their fenatic activities. It is the movement of Shivaji that inspired other parts of India and Indians to think about fighting against slavory - in fact the freedom movement was created by Shivaji.
RE:SIMILARITIES BETWEEN SHIVAJI AND DAKU ( DACOITS )
by Sunil Dharam on Mar 13, 2008 10:20 AM Permalink
Shivaji's marathas had defeated the Mughal Emperor to capture Delhi which your Rajasthani kings could never even dare to think of. Infact Shivaji should not be called a King he should be called an 'Emperor', for once i agree with Modi totally. An undeniable fact is Hindu kings & emperors were always secular.
RE:SIMILARITIES BETWEEN SHIVAJI AND DAKU ( DACOITS )
by ozefa on Mar 13, 2008 10:25 AM Permalink
shivaji who ran in basket of fruits from delhi similarlry all shivaji lovers have to run frm india
RE:RE:SIMILARITIES BETWEEN SHIVAJI AND DAKU ( DACOITS )
by sacchi baat on Mar 13, 2008 10:24 AM Permalink
rubbish,when did maratha beat moguls and british.they lost all battles of panipat.they were great warrors.and not traitors like thakres
RE:SIMILARITIES BETWEEN SHIVAJI AND DAKU ( DACOITS )
by Hemant on Mar 13, 2008 10:26 AM Permalink
Sunil, Cool....rajeshbhopali is a pseudo name, he is trying to divide us, why are you falling pray to that....he must be laughing at you.
RE:RE:SIMILARITIES BETWEEN SHIVAJI AND DAKU ( DACOITS )
by Sunil Dharam on Mar 13, 2008 10:37 AM Permalink
some people simply needs to be enlightened, no harm in trying
RE:SIMILARITIES BETWEEN SHIVAJI AND DAKU ( DACOITS )
by Sunil Dharam on Mar 13, 2008 10:34 AM Permalink
Shivaji was one king unmatched in his abilities, he is one of the best leaders of men in not only in all time history of the Indian subcontinent but also in the world. He should be ranked alongside greats like Alexander & Napoleon. Shivaji had torn apart tall & well built Afzal Khan with his own bare hands, in combat, which other emperor (incl mughal emperors) can even dare to think of coming face to face with such strong adversary, let alone defeat him. Shivaji was not a king who would sit in the comfort of their huge palaces and give only orders to the army, he always led from the front.
RE:SIMILARITIES BETWEEN SHIVAJI AND DAKU ( DACOITS )
by Vaibhav Nangare on Mar 13, 2008 12:07 PM Permalink
Are Rajesh kis book se history padhi hai bhai. Lagta hai Pakistan mein padha likha hain. Waise waha to Arangzeb ke siva kuch sikhate nahi hain. You are talking about Rajputs who became mansabdars in Mughal Kingdom just for some previliges. Read some good books of known historians. Chatrapati Shivaji may not have built big forts but he created the fire for Independence against Yavani rule. GO to any fort in Maharashtra and you will realise the greatness of this National Hero. Jai Shivaji, Jai Hind Jai Maharashtra
RE:SIMILARITIES BETWEEN SHIVAJI AND DAKU ( DACOITS )
by pooja maheshbhai patel on Mar 13, 2008 10:16 AM Permalink
rajeshbhopali, I don't know whether I should laugh or cry on your comment. :):) People like you are just plain ignorant.
RE:SIMILARITIES BETWEEN SHIVAJI AND DAKU ( DACOITS )
by sacchi baat on Mar 13, 2008 10:21 AM Permalink
don't be an idiot.he was the ist indian to know the importance of NAVY.and danger and power of english and portugise.that is why he had built masterpiece like SINDHUDURG FORT
RE:SIMILARITIES BETWEEN SHIVAJI AND DAKU ( DACOITS )
by ozefa on Mar 13, 2008 10:19 AM Permalink
shivaji as a decoit,,, poor shivaji never build any forts in maha
RE:SIMILARITIES BETWEEN SHIVAJI AND DAKU ( DACOITS )
by sameer naik on Mar 13, 2008 10:46 AM Permalink
If shivaji was a dacoit,he robbed the mughals who were terrorising the people of maharashtra.the committed actrocities on the people,looted them,forcefully converted them to islam.Shivaji raje did not build big forts like mughals or mewar kings,because like them he was not selfish or greedy.He cared for the people,by building large forts and palaces,mughals & mewar kings lived a life of luxury & adultery.THey never cared for their people (except for a few).Themughal kings never fought wars from the front.they used to send their men and they used to stay back and watch.The topography of maharashtra is such that in Western Ghats & Konkan where shivaji raje build forts,they were on the top of mountains or in remote places.If u do not have knowledge about geographical area of maharashtra do not make any damn comments.Shivaje raje had scare resources in form of men & money,because everything had been started from scratch.The peasants were trained and made into fighting soldiers.the soldiers when not in combat used to go & work in the fields.SO life was a great of utmost importance.In case of ur comment on Shivaji raje & his men fleeing is totally baseless.Because he had to win the war not small battles.When the battles were against him he backtracked,to save lives of his men for larger battles ahead,which he won.So idiot person like u cannot understand him.Maharana Pratap also followed the same principles in the battlefield against mughals.Shivaji rahe collected chauth from the fa
RE:SIMILARITIES BETWEEN SHIVAJI AND DAKU ( DACOITS )
by Prasad Rane on Mar 13, 2008 10:31 AM Permalink
I agree that decoits do not buiil permenant homes. Well said. However, Rajputs could built huge forts which still remain intact because adn follow a luxurious life style, as they pioneered the tradition of marrying the Mughal rulers to protect their own kingdoms. Mughal army was owned by Mughals but served by hoards of Rajputs. Coming to Shivaji, it was strategic to buiil forts on the mountains when it comes to fight a huge army, first of Nizams then of Mughals. Anyway, a person like you will never understand this because your understanding is in a sorry state. A piece o advise, please visit one fort in Maharashtra and then feel the heat in your pants while climing it on foot. Then comment. I feel sorry for those who without reading enough of history, take pride to comment on things which they have not even read in their wildest of the dreams. Please take a break from your routine, if affordable and read Maratha history. There are several instances recorded where the farmers remined protected under the rule of Shivaji and people from other religions had space to follow their own religion. I am aware that despite writing all these things, your notions won't change, as you are amongst those who are feel proud to be ignorant of facts and maintain a prerogative to make baseless and useless comments.
RE:SIMILARITIES BETWEEN SHIVAJI AND DAKU ( DACOITS )
by Ajeet on Mar 13, 2008 10:46 AM Permalink
Justwatching Jodha akbar sdoesnt make you a historian...you moron.....you know about Maharana pratap....know about Prithvi raj chauhan...know about Rana Sanga( died fighting a muslim ruler)about king chatrpal(son of some Rajput king only) who was the first and only one to defeat Aurangzeb. So get a life beofre commenting om something you dont know. And by the way it was Akbar who tried marrying Rajputs to make himself safe and not vice versa....so think before you wrute something. Enjoy!!
RE:SIMILARITIES BETWEEN SHIVAJI AND DAKU ( DACOITS )
by shiva on Mar 13, 2008 10:19 AM Permalink
Similarity between Muhammad And Pirates. All Muhammad did as passtime was Loot the carvans in the name of GOD.
RE:SIMILARITIES BETWEEN SHIVAJI AND DAKU ( DACOITS )
by The Brain on Mar 13, 2008 10:27 AM Permalink
it will be better for you not to comment on Prophet mohammed without knowing history.
