RE:RE:ONLY ONE SOLUTION.........
by Ibnameer on Mar 09, 2008 05:09 PM Permalink
It is not going to Saudi or any where else...it is about the law. I'm damn sure that the crimes will be reduced once u apply it.
RE:RE:ONLY ONE SOLUTION.........
by samsworld on Mar 09, 2008 05:38 PM Permalink
Veerappan was Hindu, LTTE, ULFA etc. are Non-Muslims. then do u think that All Hindus are thief & Terrorist ??? No... They are absolutely not. Then why u are considering all Muslims are Terrorist?? There are some people Muslim by name only... If you really want to know what is Islam then just read Quraan(Available in all language).... Still if you dont change ur look angle it means most probably u r the production of a Muslim by name. Ur name is Krishnan with Mohan but I am 100% sure you never gone through Bhagvad gita, Ramayan, Yejurved, etc. then what you will know about Quraan.(The only book of rules to live on this earth peacefully).If you are the real son of your father then just read Quraan carefully & say the same sentence again.
RE:ONLY ONE SOLUTION.........
by pris pal on Mar 09, 2008 04:53 PM Permalink
Barbarians wiped out Buddhism from the present Afganistan, Pakistan, Uzbekistan using the tip of sword, destroying holy sites, killing monks, killing people who did not follow their views. Well keep it yourself we do not need that again.
RAPIST IS RAPIST IRESPECTIVE OF RACE AND RELIGION HE SHOULD BE HANGED IN PUBLIC NO MERCY THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO CONTROL THIS CRIME. IN INDIA PEOPLE ARE NOT AFRAID OF THE LAW ONCE THERE IS STRINGENT LAW THE CRIME RATE WILL AUTOMATICLLAY COME DOWM
RE:RE:Rape
by zahid shaikh on Mar 09, 2008 05:22 PM Permalink
it seems that if any body rape your dear one then you will allow the repist to go free or simply you will be happy to take rounds of court for years and years. then finally the rapist will be free due to lac of evidence.
RE:RE:Rape
by zahid shaikh on Mar 09, 2008 05:23 PM Permalink
it seems that if any body rape your dear one then you will allow the repist to go free or simply you will be happy to take rounds of court for years and years. then finally the rapist will be free due to lac of evidence.
Stop the bullshit of Incredible India. Theres nothin incredible bout the corrupt India. When police covers a crime, u go to whom?? Indian Police is one of the most useless departments and the most corrupt. Aptly said by someone in the post that they enjoy blackmailing real couples/Lovers and let the Rapists/Molestors/ Teasers go scott free. U can imagine what will happen when People from all over India who has always seen a women in Saree or Kurta wearing Bikinis.
CALL ISLAM TO AVOID SUCH INCIDENTS.I PROPOSE ISLAMIC RULE IN INDIA TO MAKE SUCH THINGS NOT TO HAPPEN,BECAUSE PEOPLE KNOW THAT IN ISLAM PUNISHMENT FOR RAPE MEANS EITHER SLAIN THEIR HEAD OR THROWING STONES TILL DEATH.
Re: SOLUTION
by aryavart on Aug 24, 2014 01:49 AM Permalink
then you people should punish Muhammad first who ordered to have sex with slave girls and womens
RE:SOLUTION
by pris pal on Mar 09, 2008 04:37 PM Permalink
Ha ha ha what a joke. Islam says the woman must bring 4 witnesses to prove it ha ha ha what a joke man. U have a short memory. Look what happened to girl in Saudi Arabia she herself got 150 lashes for being a victim.
RE:SOLUTION
by Ibnameer on Mar 09, 2008 04:40 PM Permalink
It's against Saudi law... of being in the company of 3rd parties. That gal wantedly went away with them...those men abused her. Here crime lies with those rapists as well against this gal. Both would be punished according to the law. Can u answer one simple question?? What is the crime rate in India and in Islamic countries which are following shariah??World knows the truth......
RE:SOLUTION
by pass bot on Mar 09, 2008 04:45 PM Permalink
yeah shariah foollwing coutries do not "register" the case...pretty much the street justice there...hence on record very few cases...!
RE:SOLUTION
by vijai murugan on Mar 09, 2008 04:50 PM Permalink
in india u can get statistics of crime rates. But in islamic cuuntries you wont. Because they will not admit publicly. Saudi has more numbers of homosexuals, rapists,incestuous relationships and abusers than any other country in the world. Considering india's size and population it is far better than many arab states.
RE:RE:SOLUTION
by Ibnameer on Mar 09, 2008 04:54 PM Permalink
If u have any friends in Saudi...speak to them and get the info. Cases are registered in a centralised computer system and punishments are given in Public on each friday.For arguement sake u can say India is having less crime...according to the statistics Saudi is in the last place for crimes.
RE:SOLUTION
by shaheed sant on Mar 09, 2008 04:58 PM Permalink
India doesn't need saudi style laws. they are barbaric. have you forgot what happened in Afghanistan? mullahs got what they deserved. go ask that one eyed jacckie omar
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by rakesh mehrotra on Mar 09, 2008 05:03 PM Permalink
Ibnameer: According to Saudi law the victim would have been caned in public and jailed for a much longer period than the crimnals. It happened in a case recently. Are you trying to justify that? A nother question, you keep of talking islamic law all the time why dont we selectively apply it to Muslims where we chop off your hands for theft and stone you to death for adultry? Any muslim takers for it?? As far as which country has more cime we do not have any figures for crime in Saudi as it is not a democracy.
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by chandra sekar on Mar 09, 2008 05:04 PM Permalink
My friend, i have resided in a Islamic country for a decade but believe me, India has amuch lower crime rate. There's no freedom of press in Islamic countries and there's no way you'll know what is happening there. So thank god that you are in India which has a far lesser crime rate and a much better justice system
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by Ibnameer on Mar 09, 2008 05:12 PM Permalink
Here the discussion is on Islamic law against any other law..not comparing the countries....I'm an Indian and I love India
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by sujoy lahiri on Mar 09, 2008 05:09 PM Permalink
Mr. Ibnameer, Do you know the crime rate in North Korea? You Shariah follower now better learn from North korea how to reduce crime.
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by Ibnameer on Mar 09, 2008 04:43 PM Permalink
Witness speaks....in any law...even in IPC. For example, if a woman is giving a false compalint against you..how will u get rid of that?? 4 witness are to avoid injustice
RE:SOLUTION
by shaheed sant on Mar 09, 2008 04:50 PM Permalink
what is that question? n number. no limit. implement it if you want the justice keep silence and suffer with complaining
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by Ibnameer on Mar 09, 2008 04:51 PM Permalink
If u know about IPC...there's a clause for Witness in each and every code. IF u r not able to understand the cruciality of witness u would talk like this.
RE:SOLUTION
by shaheed sant on Mar 09, 2008 04:55 PM Permalink
I understood now that you are really a intel brain. am talking on whole new approach for speedy justice. the existing clauses in IPC books just suck in coming to the rescue of the needy.
RE:RE:RE:SOLUTION
by Ibnameer on Mar 09, 2008 04:57 PM Permalink
Ha haaa..then u wl never succedd in changing the IPC....let ur 5th generation try it and fail
RE:SOLUTION
by shaheed sant on Mar 09, 2008 05:01 PM Permalink
I never to change IPC see my stance got vindicated about your brain. what I mean it increase the use of technology to deliver speedy justice. so narco tests are best bet in 80% of the cases. so we can solve atleast 80% caes in short time. samjhe naa ya hindi me samjhau?
RE:SOLUTION
by pris pal on Mar 09, 2008 04:49 PM Permalink
Kamasutra was a book detailing about how to go about it not a rule book. Get ur facts right and in it was also written it should consensual and there were regulations given it also.
RE:SOLUTION
by Joaquim DaSilva on Mar 09, 2008 04:51 PM Permalink
Yes Islam has reduced rape because if the woman is with a stranger then she is the one who has loose morals and must be punished, not the rapist.
If a man rapes his daughter-in-law, then she should separate with her husband, but the rapist should not be punished.
RE:RE:SOLUTION
by Ibnameer on Mar 09, 2008 04:56 PM Permalink
dnt speak while u have less knowledge...no where it is mentioned like ur arguement...come with strong evidences and argue it
RE:SOLUTION
by Joaquim DaSilva on Mar 09, 2008 05:12 PM Permalink
There have been so many instances where rapists were have been set free or the woman has been punished because she was in the company of strangers. Half the rape cases in all Muslim countries are handled this way.
In our own country a religious court forced a man to separate with his wife because she had been raped by her father-in-law, and because she had sexual relations with him she was equal to her husband's mother.
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by Ibnameer on Mar 09, 2008 05:15 PM Permalink
once agian...dnt talk with somany cases.....atlast u guys will talk about Saudi's Kateef case. It is against the lae to roam around with 3rd parties. so she got punished according to the law. In ur country where is the religious court???
RE:SOLUTION
by Joaquim DaSilva on Mar 09, 2008 05:21 PM Permalink
The Imrana rape case in Muzzafarnagar, where the Muslim elders did not allow the case to go to IPC.
But Saudi law is based purely on Shariah. Do you want that law in India so that men and women are segregated and women get lashed because they get raped?
What happens if a woman gets raped by a taxi driver? Will she be punished for sitting in the car of an unknown man?
What has happened is indeed very sad, mere just words can't justify it. But blaming a section of society or for that matter religion is just utter non-sense. Just coz Goa is a tourist state that doesn't imply all are catholics in the state. As responsible and educated people i would request to plz understand wht u write, simply don't create communal tension. It would be nice to read, how the law takes its course from here, rather then involving in the blame game.
Goa- the very name means its a place for all sort of 'activities' for everyone who knows what happens out there!People go there for drinks,sex and drugs!For the gen-next Indians, these are called 'cool' things. Media project these as the ways to live for the so called 'successful' people- So, even a new comer on the scenes - a call centre employee who starts earning a 10-15K, this has become a way of life. Then, one has to be orepared for such things.A day will come soon, when these things will be treated as 'normal' - The way smoking has become now.The so called 'Indian value systems' are going thru a west influenced matamorphosis. When everyone on streets know what's going on in Goa, how come the Law enforcement agencies - Cops and Inteligence agencies are unaware of drug peddling in that area?Thats a hog wash, as everyone is part and parcel of the same system.Ultimately, its all money, honey!If U are unlucky not to have it,U fret n fume.If U have it, U flaunt it.In that process, once again if Ur luck runs out,U get caught or get raped and die!what goes up has to come down!Law of nature!I am not one bit surprised with this news item.
RE:shame!
by shaheed sant on Mar 09, 2008 04:24 PM Permalink
many Indians from rajasthan goa kashmir etc are murderers of foreigners who come to India. they go there to India and give Indians valuable foreign exchange in return they buy rape death racial taunts
RE:shame!
by Nixon Fernandes on Mar 09, 2008 04:31 PM Permalink
Mr. Shaheed, B4 raising yr finger against rajasthanis, goans kashmiris etc, first try to look in yr own backyard. Crimes are committed in every state or for that matter in all parts of the world. If you are safe and nothing of such has happened in yr backyard u should be grateful, but again think b4 u write coz i believe u r educated and not an educated fool.
RE:shame!
by shaheed sant on Mar 09, 2008 04:37 PM Permalink
am not raising any finger mr nixon. they are facts which haunt the country for long. see in your national capital itself how women are raped and killed. I look everywhere before I say anything. don't try to ignore or cover up. regd. my background still we are waiting for the atrocious crimes committed by your governments against our sikhs. still we send our kids to Indian Army to protect all. we need the justice too. tell your government to deliver the justice by handing over those moroons like tytler sharma and others. now check your backyard and come back
RE:shame!
by Nixon Fernandes on Mar 09, 2008 05:14 PM Permalink
Mr. Shaheed i agree with you 50%, am not ignoring or covering up, what has happened can't be undone, but that doesn't mean people of goa are muderers, first of all its still not proved whether they(muderers) are from goa. I know how painful its to remember even today t incidents of 1984 sikh riots. But then again we can't blame everyone for that, yes i support and agree with you that Mr. Tytler or sharma or for that matter anyone found gulity in the attack has to be prosecuted in the court of law. But one more thing i would like to mention India is my country and am proud of it. Its my nation, I love and respect my country and in the same vein i love and respect my state i.e. Goa.
