RE:Questions from Hindustani Muslims
by Albert Adibadla on Jun 28, 2008 09:58 PM Permalink
KAMAL LOOK LIKE A MUSLIM NAME.. IS YOUR FULL NAME KAMAL BADSHAH!! FROM PAKISTAN!!!
RE:Questions from Hindustani Muslims
by sri on Jun 28, 2008 10:29 PM Permalink
You are obviously a muslim trying to incite christians! Using Orissa as an excuse!
It is very difficult to check the mentality of Indian Politicians, commiting offences against the state. The withdrawal of support to Congress Chief Minister, on the ground that the State Govt. had alloted some small piece of land for Hindu Temple, to construct a shelter to Hindu Devotees. That is why Mr. Charchil said to Indian Politicians as " Grassroot Politicians". The Kashmir is part of India and on any cost it will not be separated from India. All the State Govts. and Union Govt. is taking care of Muslim Devotees and their expenses are borned by govt. Now the question arised here who is secular in their behaviour. The true story is that the State Govt. had allotted the land in good faith, because lakhs of devotees were suffering and not getting good hotels or rooms to stay for even one day. The govt. must come with iron hand to tackle with situation, the Pt. Nehru and Indira Gandhi, kept the Kashmir, under their control because of such mentality of people, who are not applicable for any instance. Now the Govt. must get pass bill to remove special status of Kashmir, enable to indian people to construct their houses in Kashmir, like other states. The PDP leaders should not forget that Indian People had made a sacrified on security by releasing miltants and freed Mehbooba. I am having now doubt that whether it was truth story or eye washing of Indian People for releasing Mehbooba. The Central Govt. must come with iron hand and BJP must support to govt. on this issue.
RE:PDP
by ChalapathiRao Mudigonda on Jun 28, 2008 10:00 PM Permalink
Dear Surendra Ji Are you in fool's paradise? Lest. how can you expect our politicians to agree your proposal? Only when Sardar Patel is reborne, that is possible. Let us pray god for that boon!
RE:RE:PDP
by Surendra Borkar on Jun 28, 2008 10:07 PM Permalink
Chalapathi Ji, I am not in fool`s paradise, but now the time has come to decide for permanant solution on Kashmir, and Kashmiri People also decide whether to stay in India or not.
RE:Why Congress party gave article 370 to Kashmi and what article 370 actually mean
by kamal on Jun 28, 2008 09:45 PM Permalink
hahah..david johnson?? stupid christian..who are you to interfear in our hindu matter?? we dont need any fukkking christian inputs...okk otherwise we will pack you..like what happen in orissa..
RE:Why Congress party gave article 370 to Kashmi and what article 370 actually mean
by amitabh badchalan on Jun 28, 2008 09:47 PM Permalink
whats the problem with hindus...if they cant answer they resort to abusing....that was a simple question for you...in return you abused johnsons religion ...HOW YOU PEOPLE EXPECT OTHER RELIGION PEOPLE TO BE TOLERANT TO YOU????
RE:Why Congress party gave article 370 to Kashmi and what article 370 actually mean
by shakti sinha on Jun 28, 2008 09:54 PM Permalink
Exactly Amitabh!!!!!
RE:Why Congress party gave article 370 to Kashmi and what article 370 actually mean
by Topno on Jun 28, 2008 09:49 PM Permalink
Hindus are most tolerant. You are still expecting too much.
You need to be treated like Hindus are treated in Pakistan, Malayasia, Bangladesh, Kasmir etc.
RE:Why Congress party gave article 370 to Kashmi and what article 370 actually mean
by amitabh badchalan on Jun 28, 2008 09:55 PM Permalink
topno...man you got the right name top no that if no top(head) you have got..when you're abusing a man and his religion you are calling it being tolerant then whats intolerence for you???? KILLING FOETUS?????
RE:Why Congress party gave article 370 to Kashmi and what article 370 actually mean
by Bharat Kr on Jun 28, 2008 09:50 PM Permalink
Is Abrogation of Article 370 Possible? If Article 370 has created so much havoc, the question is how can it be removed. While some have tied the existence of Article 370 to the state’s accession to India, Kashmir experts like ex-Governor Jagmohan and state constitutional expert M. K. Teng have opined that the article can be abrogated without any constitutional hurdles. The article stipulated that India’s President needed to consult with the state’s Constituent Assembly before abrogating it. However, this by itself points to the Article’s temporary nature. As noted above, the Constituent Assembly was a temporary arrangement with its main task being the ratification of the Instrument of Accession. It was disbanded in 1957, thus invalidating this clause. The President can use Article 368 to remove the defunct provision of taking the Constituent Assembly’s consent. After this deletion is carried out, the President can then abrogate the Article forthwith.
RE:Why Congress party gave article 370 to Kashmi and what article 370 actually mean
by amitabh badchalan on Jun 28, 2008 09:56 PM Permalink
SEEING THE PRESENT SITUATION IT SHOULD BE ABOLISHED????? KOI CHANCE HAI KYA?
RE:Why Congress party gave article 370 to Kashmi and what article 370 actually mean
by huzefa hakimi on Jun 28, 2008 10:27 PM Permalink
well i will only vote agenda. BJP was in power for 5 years as well as in state (during NDA term). Why did not it remove it.
Guys we all should understand what these political parties intention is - divide and rule. Congress goes for Muslims, BJP for Hindus. But look at their record did any one do any good for either communities?
RE:Why Congress party gave article 370 to Kashmi and what article 370 actually mean
by Bharat Kr on Jun 28, 2008 10:03 PM Permalink
Everything is possible, one need Will Power. Pseudo-secular Congress party could have abolished it long time back, they didn't do it, and use it for their muslim vote-banks. It have to go, when? Its a matter of time. J&K have to be brought at per with other states of India.
RE:Why Congress party gave article 370 to Kashmi and what article 370 actually mean
by amitabh badchalan on Jun 28, 2008 10:06 PM Permalink
BUT BJP IS NOT THE SOLUTION AS SUGGESTED BY DAVID...BCOZ THEY RUKLED 6 YEARS WITH THIS AGENDA BUT WHAT THEY DID??? ESCORT THE TERRORISTS WITH MONEY!!!!
RE:Why Congress party gave article 370 to Kashmi and what article 370 actually mean
by Bharat Kr on Jun 28, 2008 09:45 PM Permalink
Article 370 is a special clause in Indian Constitution, a prize that was extracted out of India in 1950 by Sheikh Mohammed Abdullah for throwing his lot with India, after lengthy negotiations with Indian leaders. Article 370 made Jammu and Kashmir a country within a country, with its own flag, emblem, constitution and Sadr-i-Riyasat (Prime Minister). The architect of the Indian Constitution, Dr. Ambedkar, opposed granting Article 370 but it was on India's first Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru's insistence and personal guarantee that it was granted to the state.
The Fruits of Article 370: Political and Socio-Economic Discrimination against Hindus Religious oppression of Kashmiri Hindus (also known as Kashmiri Pandits and embodying a distinct character, culture and historic tradition), and forced conversions, had already dwindled the number of these original inhabitants of Kashmir valley to about 800,000 by 1947. After 1947, while the rest of India enjoyed the fruits of secular independence and religious equality, Kashmir valley was gradually and steadily converted into a hotbed of Islamic fundamentalism, a mini-Afghanistan. The Kashmiri Hindus, the largest minority in the valley and its original heirs, were clearly an impediment to this transformation of the valley. Every possible mean was employed by the outwardly secular National Conference to exclude Hindus from society, politics and the economy, and the primary tool used was Article 370.
RE:Why Congress party gave article 370 to Kashmi and what article 370 actually mean
by huzefa hakimi on Jun 28, 2008 10:10 PM Permalink
Where did you get this definition of article 370 - in one of the Sabhas??? Why always be there to spread more ill to society.
Article 370 was to provide autonomy to the people. It's prominent points were: - People of Kashmir will the one who can own properties - State Govt had power to take decision on some of the decision which comes under central govt
To your point 370 does not define another country within the country. Kashmir has no separate flag as nation - as nation it has flag of India, emblem, constitution do not know where you are getting from. Again try to formulate this on Nehru or did not you read Sardar Patel, Ambedkar, with others (some of whom were founder of Janta PArty and later BJP) were the one you had brought this article.
What you guys are talking about will lead to another disintegration of this country based on lies. How will your short term benefits ruin the country's future, do you care or not or have got to materialistic to even spread and aggravate violence and hatred for materialistic gains.
RE:RE:Why Congress party gave article 370 to Kashmi and what article 370 actually mean
by amitabh badchalan on Jun 28, 2008 09:48 PM Permalink
which rascal accepted this????? HOW CAN WE HAVE A COUNTRY WITHIN OUR COUNTRY? ANYWAY THANX FOR THIS INFORMATION...IT WAS SHOCKING ....I WONDER IN ANGER WHO WAS THE MINISTER TO ACCEPT THIS?
RE:RE:RE:Why Congress party gave article 370 to Kashmi and what article 370 actually mean
by huzefa hakimi on Jun 28, 2008 10:13 PM Permalink
Well the information he has provided is mostly false. Ask him to provide link or google yourself on it or look it up on wikipedia under Jammu and Kashmir section and you will learn about it.
just remember guys once we were been ruled by Britishers as our community was than divided based on caste and religion. By seeing messages on the board feel like how better we are today than those slavery days today! regards
RE:RE:RE:KASHMIR PROBLEM
by sri on Jun 28, 2008 10:26 PM Permalink
Do you realize that most of the women who are getting used by the Sheikhs are poor muslim women in Hyderabad??? As a Hindu do you think I like that? No! I consider those muslim women to be Indians and dont want them to be exploited by these illiterates (but newly rich) Arabs.
RE:KASHMIR PROBLEM
by Topno on Jun 28, 2008 09:46 PM Permalink
We know you muslims are great fan of Aurangzeb. There is no wrong if I am fan of Modi. Modi should be supported by Hindus for the growth of India.
RE:KASHMIR PROBLEM
by dhinnchak on Jun 28, 2008 09:36 PM Permalink
yes we know you are talking about pakistan occupied kashmir or pok as it is better known.
anyways, you pakistanis should not talk in our internal matters. go take a walk. this mufti is the same lady who fabricated her own kidnapping for release of terrorists. traitor family. and the farooq abdullah is a big messiah, who will run back to london when there will be war like situation between india pakistan or trouble in kashmir. the phattu self centered family again.
RE:KASHMIR PROBLEM
by sri on Jun 28, 2008 09:35 PM Permalink
Rubbish! You guys started raping the Hindus and dragging them behind Cars when the movement first started. Every Tom Dick and Harry wants a nation when they are dissatisfied with something or the other. Muslims are incapable of living democratically and giving freedoms to the others! Without the tolerance of the Hindus you guys would have been butchered long ago. Remember that! Forget about independence, you guys are not even worthy of being considered civilized. Kashmiriyat indeed! There is nothing like that anymore!
RE:KASHMIR PROBLEM
by shahbaz yousuf on Jun 28, 2008 09:48 PM Permalink
@thread-stater,you have very well described the scenario.I myself am from kashmir,and very well know the turmoil which had been going on there because of the Indian Govt. Let's make some points clear here...
1.The muslim people of kashmir are not against the pilgrimage,infact we welcome the pilgrims to come.
2.The Kashmir according to UN council is a disputed territory.The Indian's who think kashmir is a integral part of India,like in a fool's world.
3.Lot of people have started to talk about Haj subsidy now,Its is not that people of kashmir had asked for it,You own Congress Govt provided it for their vote Bank.
4.The India will suffer as long as kashmir issuse is not solved. 5.We are not against hindus,or else for that reason with people of other religion.
RE:KASHMIR PROBLEM
by Krishnan on Jun 28, 2008 10:09 PM Permalink
jaat dikha di kattu? jab 47 mein pakistani army aur tribals aaye the, tab kahan the? bangladesh ka haal dekho.. sab ke sab aise hi ho tum log... besharam ..
RE:RE:KASHMIR PROBLEM
by amitabh badchalan on Jun 28, 2008 09:52 PM Permalink
yousuf....you are not against hindus...but hibdus are against you not bcoz you are a kashmiri but BCOZ you are a MUSLIM
RE:KASHMIR PROBLEM
by sri on Jun 28, 2008 10:22 PM Permalink
You must be joking! Your so-called struggle has everything to do with religion. You are just trying to brainwash people. There is almost no muslim state that treats its minorities properly or has the democratic traditions to be expected to battle religious extremism that is part and parcel of Islam. Kashmir is just another disgruntled muslim majority entity that doesnt believe in democracy or in working with nonmuslims in the larger interest of humanity. They want to rule over non-muslims and that's all that is driving them!
RE:KASHMIR PROBLEM
by Bharat Kr on Jun 28, 2008 09:55 PM Permalink
Plain truth: J&K still have 30% people followers of Hindu dharma, religion. They have every right to get lands for their development and socio-religious purposes. Secondly, J&K is an integral part of India. Hindus have every right to acquire lands for socio-religious-cultural purposes, as muslim through out India can built mosques. Islamist fanaticism have no place in parts of India. Time has come, we must crush these fanaticism with iron hands. Enough of tolerance we practices, nothing changed in the minds of Islamist fanatics.
RE:KASHMIR PROBLEM
by amitabh badchalan on Jun 28, 2008 09:32 PM Permalink
Lo! You pressed the panic button by REVEALING THE TRUTH...now all the hindus here will start abusing you and islam...presuming you to be muslim even if you are a hindu....
RE:KASHMIR PROBLEM
by pranav joshi on Jun 28, 2008 09:58 PM Permalink
If you look at numbers you will find that more hindus are killed in riots then any other community in Gujarat, So its time to think what you told
RE:KASHMIR PROBLEM
by amitabh badchalan on Jun 28, 2008 10:03 PM Permalink
HA! HA! HA! MAN WHERE YOU GOT THIS INFORMATION ???? FROM THE KNICER WALLAH SCHOOL OF MISINFORMATION MANAGEMENT??????
RE:Biggest threat to Hindustan
by kamal on Jun 28, 2008 09:43 PM Permalink
hahah..david johnson?? stupid christian..who are you to interfear in our hindu matter?? we dont need any fukkking christian inputs...okk otherwise we will pack you..like what happen in orissa..
RE:Biggest threat to Hindustan
by sri on Jun 28, 2008 10:28 PM Permalink
You are obviously a muslim trying to incite christians! Using Orissa as an excuse!