This myth was slowly created after India conducted its tests in 1974 and has been played up by western media in order to control India's nuclear progress. There was only one nuclear test carried out 'IN' Pakistan in 1998 ( see not using the word 'BY' Pakistan) by the same countries which have been wanting India to sign NPT for 5o years. Khan was running a junk yard in Kahuta. No country has technology to enrich uranium to weapons grade by centrifuge. Western countries do not mind other Muslim countries trying to 'steal' or 'buy' this centrifuge technology from Pakistan because it leads them in wrong direction.
Indian scientists tried to develop centrifuge method and realized soon that it was almost impossible to enrich uranium beyond 20%.
So we have situation where USA with subtle help of China has created this myth of Pakistan having nukes. The problem is how to undo this myth with all the following objectives met (1. Denuclearize India; 2. Use Pakistan for strategic goals; 3. Use India against China)
Like all deceptions, this one ( that Pakistan has bombs) has too many unintended side-effects which have never been thought off. For example, what if China really gives one bomb to Pakistan. Another, India has been pushed into conducting nuclear tests and ramp up its own programme. Third, other Muslim countries have now joined race to get real nuclear technology claiming that if Pakistan can do it, so can they. The list goes on.
RE:Pakistan's nuclear capability is a myth- mother of all deceptions
by Desi on Jun 06, 2008 11:16 PM Permalink
What is the source of your story? Where can one read more about what you claim?
'Indian scientists tried to develop centrifuge method and realized soon that it was almost impossible to enrich uranium beyond 20%. '
RE:Pakistan's nuclear capability is a myth- mother of all deceptions
by sumit arya on Jun 06, 2008 10:34 PM Permalink
indian centrifuge technology is even advance than u.s thats one technology which india has to give to us in 123 deal . and moreover our top ppl like apj kalam and all more worried about using thorium because we have plenty of stock of that
RE:Pakistan's nuclear capability is a myth- mother of all deceptions
by Virgo on Jun 07, 2008 04:55 AM Permalink
Oh yes! You are a genious! By extention of your great analysis, no one in the world has nukes, not even the US, UK, China, Russia and France! All those countries have just vapor bombs! Everyone is lying about the bomb. What India exploded in 1974 and 1998 were the vapor bombs let out by our politicians after eating too much daal and chapatis!
By the way, carrying your analyis a little further, we can safely say that the Muslim hordes never invaded India and pakistan does not really exist except in imagination!
I think you should start writing to the National Enquirer!
RE:Pakistan's nuclear capability is a myth- mother of all deceptions
by Dipak Bose on Jun 07, 2008 09:18 AM Permalink
The Soviet Union gave enrichment plant to India after 1974. India can enrich uranium to the level so that nuclear explosion would be possible. The Soviet Union for the last 30 years, when USA was sleeping, did very advanced research and development and that was the reason it can develop Fast Breeder Reactors on a commerical scale, which USA has not yet done. The Soviet Union also gave the Fast Breeder Reactors, which can produce Plutonium, which can be used directly to produce nuclear weapons. That is the reason USA now wants India to sign 123 Treaty so that USA and IAEA can control the Fast Breeder Reactors, Enrichment plants and Reprocessing plants, so that India cannot make any nuclear weapons. Unfortunately Man Mohan, as an agent of USA, is trying to fool India.
RE:Pakistan's nuclear capability is a myth- mother of all deceptions
by ashish kapooria on Jun 06, 2008 10:38 PM Permalink
Dear Sameer,
A very astute observation, you obviously have analyzed the issue from every conceivable angle in a very brief prose, and yet it does'nt suffer at all from this brevity. Very nice.
RE:What he is telling is the truth
by R Chakravarti on Jun 06, 2008 10:51 PM Permalink
Einstein suggested the possibility of using nuclear power by introducing the equation E=mc2. Later, he used his influence to get the US to develop the bomb. That was his contribution. It was non-technical.
Pakistan now has basically claimed that it developed nuclear weapon from the help of other people. This is not their success.
If they cant do it on their own doesnt mean that we cant do it. Scientists working in our labs are far intelligent and superior. Professors from IITs are in regular collaboration with these people.
When we fire a missile sometime it doesn't go successful and when Pakistan fires a missile it is always successful. We knew the reality, now it is confirmed.
Pakistan is not a self developed nuclear power and missile power
RE:AQ Khan is the biggest smuggler
by arunabhasengupta on Jun 06, 2008 10:15 PM Permalink
It is not that absurd. US, UK, Russia and France got the technology from the German after the 2nd world war by confining German Scientists in their own contries.
RE:AQ Khan is the biggest smuggler
by Ravi Nair on Jun 06, 2008 10:11 PM Permalink
Why does that matter? they got the stuff. that matters. At end of the day, that is what will fry your bheja.
RE:AQ Khan is the biggest smuggler
by KZ on Jun 06, 2008 10:15 PM Permalink
Nope. It matters. In the process you create scientists which are capable of doing other things. You develop technologies for civilian use. When you get the things readymade you cannt do anything else apart from show off.
The point is not whether other countries got some tech from other countries or not. There are two more important Q's. Does Pak have the scientific and technological manpower to contribute anything substantial or even to sustain their programs. From all accounts, NO! They cant even make a gun let alone a missile launcher. That brings me to the next Q. If not how do they keep shooting missiles and exploding bombs? The answer is most revealing -China. The chinese armed and continue to arm Pak to keep India unsettled. Pak gets a steady support from China to sustain and improve their program without which they would be nowhere. No doubt the US has helped for example by Carter and Reagan looking the other way when reports started coming in of Pak being close to the bomb and of China's involvement. India knew it too from hair samples obtained from near their nuke facility. But even the US did not help Pak in that limited way to harm India - But China is doing that.
Most other countries including India have enormous expertise unlike Pak and even if all of them got some tech here and there they are very different from Pak which is sinking. What can you expect from a largely Madrassa-based education that leaves out Science and tech and concentrates on abolishing thought.
RE:Nonsense
by MANISH MRINAL on Jun 07, 2008 12:27 AM Permalink
Ha Ha Ha...loser...accept that Pak is a failed nation...All your players are drug addict...at least have courage to write your correct name....Bloody Paki...
RE:Nonsense
by Desi on Jun 06, 2008 11:13 PM Permalink
Good to find one Paki debating on merits and in English without resorting to foul words! But alas, even this erudite Paki falls short of any logical reasoning. How can one explain to the likes of John Rose who will not budge from their positions and are smart enough to realize the folly of their stance? No wonder we need nuclear bombs in our region.
RE:Nonsense
by lalith kumar on Jun 06, 2008 11:59 PM Permalink
you are counting the number of bombs that have exploded in India and Pakistan? you are a crap, terrorists born and trained in ur soil are intruding in our country and making it hell, and you are so happy about the fact that 'there are more explosions in India', u wrote so much crap and the way u see pakistan is totally acceptable as u r a pakistani(a patriot here, finally). But that does not make ur country anything, with the kinda problems that u have. u guys doesnt know how to manage ur country, u cry foul over anything which makes india good.. what do u call this? There are very few in ur country who has Brains, and ALL UR TECHNOLOGY IS BORROWED AND MADE UP OF STOLEN STUFF. and dont make conclusions that our TVs publish hatred towards other countries, unlike ur madrassas and schools do.
RE:Nonsense
by Indian King on Jun 06, 2008 09:51 PM Permalink
Everyone knows that pakistan got it nuclear Technology from CHINA and KOREA, even these people dont know how operate those missiles and bombs. Each time they called Chinese for any small single problem, I am sure some day they will explode these Chinese work of art in their home country, as they did with F-16 fighter planes most of them exploded and crashed in pakistani territory, because of untrained insufficient fighter pilot.
A fool, stupid and irresponsible person is blaming on capabilities of some nations including India and some indians are supporting him... What a disgrace people India have....... Please develop trust on the capabilities of our Indian scientist instead of trusting a irresponsible scientist of roughe Nation
Please invite him as guest of honor in the star-one comedy show. He will be such a riot and star-one will rake in loads of moolah. we will also enjoy one of the most original comedy shows ever produced. A Q Khan will even give SRK a run for his money.
and where did you got this. As if everthing that is being done in India, is first explained to you. The kind of things you have done Mr.Khan, nobody else in this world has done. You are the first person in this world, to have printed brochure for selling and producing atomic bombs. Isn't that crazy....you are simply maniac. You need to be given ten sticks everyday first thing in the morning, without asking. Detention is just enough for you.
