RESERVATION based on castes should be banned and people who are very poor and cannot afford to buy books ... food for a day ... should be given reservation for a decided number of years ... this will help them in developing themselves!
DRDO is a big-time failures in many areas just because of this pathetic system of reservation where un-deserving candidates are selected and made to work in the organizations where the best talent of the nation should be working! If country advances ... we will advance ...
People keep begging for reservation ... and never achieve anything ... because for that it requires real talent which will never develop in those who beg only for reservation!
I am not a Brahmin ... but I understand what merit means ... and it can surel be in any and everyone! Reservation should be only for poor people ... rather than giving quotas for any particular caste!
I have no personal enmity with Muslims or any lower caste people ... I, in fact wish that India should be a home for all type of people ... but they should not beg for anything, they should have ability to develop themselves ... this is how India will rise!
If possible ... try not to beg for reservation based on what caste you belong to ... but check if the same reservation can help any needy ... because if you are capable and have even very limited resources ... still you will be able to make your way to the top, but the poor people who are suffering will never be able to get out of th
RE:STOP RESERVATION!
by nilesh parekh on Jun 04, 2008 10:01 AM Permalink
*get out of their misery!
Jai Hind!
(Now this will be a lecture for those idiots who really are worthless ... but anyways you cannot make an ass a pundit with just teaching him something ... it should have brains too!)
The basic paradigm still missing is cost of innovating both in terms of time and money. A young person from university is much more capable to deliver instead of a expereinced person as he is not yet bounded by current solutions. The university MUST be taken in the technological development loop seriously.
It took DRDO 24 yrs. to develop a simple LCA and now they bid to develop a fifth generation aircraft in just 15 yrs. They can not even develop an engine for the jet and import under-powered engine from US. Shame on them!! They must co-operate with long time allies Russia and throw out the hell into the US.
RE:DRDO- A super glorified lot
by mamamia on Jun 04, 2008 10:01 AM Permalink
You are correct DRDO is just overhyped white elephant, with corrupt and incapable people fit for nothing but cleaning toilets. They have wasted thousands of crores of taxpayers money doing nothing. It is high time govt should revamp this org, kickout all lethargic morons and bring fresh blood with pvt partnership. Others who are pumping DRDO are hypocrites who are afraid to face facts.
RE:DRDO- A super glorified lot
by guk on Jun 03, 2008 08:38 PM Permalink
You have commented on LCA failure. Good. Could you enlighten us with your opinion on their recently tested missile? Was that also running on a "under powered US engine"? Maybe you know better..
RE:DRDO- A super glorified lot
by Krishna Raghav on Jun 05, 2008 06:49 PM Permalink
The US has a merit to make things that are costly to make and manage. Their F-22 Raptor costs nearly 220 million US$ and is not even half as agile as the Russian MiG-35 or the Su-27 family which cost below 50 million US$. The American planes can easily pick down uncared Iraqi and Serbian Planes but if we take one look at Cope India exercises, the Indian cheap and so-called technologically inferior MiGs and Sukhois easily shot the American planes with their cameras while no American Plane could even get a glimpse of the Indian Planes in their reels. The MiG-21s crash but not because of the plane quality only due to faulty spares and pilots who take a quantum jump from subsonic planes to supersonic planes.
RE:DRDO- A super glorified lot
by Hack King on Jun 04, 2008 09:51 AM Permalink
He he he .missile with a range of 100km. Even a kid in missile world can so far.
RE:DRDO- A super glorified lot
by guk on Jun 04, 2008 01:17 PM Permalink
I'm surprised you didnt say 100m!!!Oh ya kids grow up making 100km missiles. Keep talking man..
Seems like another ploy of DRDO to blunt criticism and buy time. And dont think i am saying this because i am anti-national commie. There should be no shame and hesitation in calling a spade a spade. DRDO has been a colossal waste of public money. My friends work there and all they do is sit at their desks form 10 to 5. They havent been assigned any work at all for the past six months. Worse, when one of them tried to leave after getting frustated for higher studies, they refused to give him NOC and virtually destroyed his career. They choose the best candidates and them condemn their creative minds to a life of boredom. ISRO stands in stark contrast to DRDO. A lot of blame for this has to go to APJ Kalam, so called father of missile program, who ruled DRDO as a czar for a decade and dragged down each project into the hellhole. Lets be objective and consider what he achieved in his decade long "rule" over DRDO? The only option is to take away these projects from DRDO and give them to trusted private sector companies. They will deliver far better weapons within cost and schedule.
RE:Its a complete waste
by guk on Jun 03, 2008 07:57 PM Permalink
If nobody in DRDO works, as you claim, them how do you account for the projects which they have completed successfully. Or do you say that they have a 100 percent faliure. Dr. Kalam worked for ISRO before coming to DRDO. So if you blame Kalam for DRDO, then you should also commend him for ISRO's success? Mr. Rohit, the matter of fact is both DRDO and ISRO, both have had their fair share of successes and failures. In India, hardly any research goes on in the private sector and the research in many areas are done only in government research labs. After graduating if someone wants to get a good research experience in a non-IT area in India, they have to work in some of these goverment research labs (CSIR, DRDO, ISRO etc.). Working in these labs helps many in the early stages of their careers. They use this experience to go and work abroad or go for higher studies. This explains the high attrition rates of these organisations.
RE:Its a complete waste
by krishna murali on Jun 03, 2008 08:32 PM Permalink
Mr Rohit, As you mentioned your friend did not get NOC, I believe this is wrong, In DRDO you will get NOC in two months. Another thing every body is blaming DRDO, DRDO nothing but it consists Indian National ( Not any other country). Our Indian mentality you know(?), So called the creamy brains will not sacrifies their money thirst, and they will opt for software jobs. you know what will they do there ( most of them)? Why don't the creamy brains join DRDO? They can mould the DRDO by sacrifying their money thirst and they can develop good systems for INDIA. DRDO is GOVT organisation you are the leader to steer according our nation interest. You may face some hurdles in the jouney (moulding process) don't give up. Another issue, you are blaming some individuals also, it is not right to blame the person already he got Bharat Ratna, if you do like you are insulting India.
RE:Its a complete waste
by Kishore YC on Jun 03, 2008 10:58 PM Permalink
The creamy brains wouldn't join DRDO. Well read people want more and they get thi in software companies. Software jobs are attractive and well paid and he/she can buy a house, and get married on time.. and give good education to his kids.. and save more money for his future needs... So..it is what it is.
RE:Its a complete waste
by Srinivas vishnu on Jun 04, 2008 09:25 AM Permalink
This is the problem. People "the creamy layer" also wants to live like worms, to grow wealthy, have house, marry, have children etc, which is nothing new, whether they are creamy or normal. I wish they be called creamy only based on achievement and making a difference to the Nation, rather than by their taxable status, which rest of us are being anyway. I wish, the scientists are taken based on their interest in research and to make a difference into the science/organisation, and such mentality should be inculcated into the young minds, rather than making them money machines and worms. Also, civil services should be moulded to take in people with service orientation rather than the money making creamy orientation. Then the country will develop.
RE:Its a complete waste
by Nandakumar S on Jun 04, 2008 10:01 AM Permalink
u think that the guys who join in private companies get the work assigned immediately, even after one year they are on bench. I am sure they would have been asked to learn the system in which they are supposed to work. But i feel bad for not giving NOC, but i don't think there is any rule for not giving NOC to proceed for higher studies.
RESERVATION based on castes should be banned and people who are very poor and cannot afford to buy books ... food for a day ... should be given reservation for a decided number of years ... this will help them in developing themselves!
DRDO is a big-time failures in many areas just because of this pathetic system of reservation where un-deserving candidates are selected and made to work in the organizations where the best talent of the nation should be working! If country advances ... we will advance ...
People keep begging for reservation ... and never achieve anything ... because for that it requires real talent which will never develop in those who beg only for reservation!
I am not a Brahmin ... but I understand what merit means ... and it can surel be in any and everyone! Reservation should be only for poor people ... rather than giving quotas for any particular caste!
I have no personal enmity with Muslims or any lower caste people ... I, in fact wish that India should be a home for all type of people ... but they should not beg for anything, they should have ability to develop themselves ... this is how India will rise!
If possible ... try not to beg for reservation based on what caste you belong to ... but check if the same reservation can help any needy ... because if you are capable and have even very limited resources ... still you will be able to make your way to the top, but the poor people who are suffering will never be able to get out of th
RESERVATION based on castes should be banned and people who are very poor and cannot afford to buy books ... food for a day ... should be given reservation for a decided number of years ... this will help them in developing themselves!
DRDO is a big-time failures in many areas just because of this pathetic system of reservation where un-deserving candidates are selected and made to work in the organizations where the best talent of the nation should be working! If country advances ... we will advance ...
People keep begging for reservation ... and never achieve anything ... because for that it requires real talent which you will never develop in those who beg only for reservation!
I am not a Brahmin ... but I understand what merit means! Boss ... reservation should be only for poor people ... rather than giving quotas for any particular caste!
I have no personal enmity with Muslims or any lower caste people ... I, in fact wish that India should be a home for all type of people ... but they should not beg for anything they should have ability to develop themselves ... this is how India will rise!
If possible ... try to not ask for reservation based on what caste you belong to ... but check if the same reservation can help any needy ... because if you are capable and have even very limited resources ... still you will be able to make your way to the top, but the poor people who are suffering will never be able to get out of their misery unless helped!
RESERVATION based on castes should be banned and people who are very poor and cannot afford to buy books ... food for a day ... should be given reservation for a decided number of years ... this will help them in developing themselves!
DRDO is a big-time failures in many areas just because of this pathetic system of reservation where un-deserving candidates are selected and made to work in the organizations where the best talent of the nation should be working! If country advances ... we will advance ...
People keep begging for reservation ... and never achieve anything ... because for that it requires real talent which you will never develop in those who beg only for reservation!
I am not a Brahmin ... but I understand what merit means! Boss ... reservation should be only for poor people ... rather than giving quotas for any particular caste!
I have no personal enmity with Muslims or any lower caste people ... I, in fact wish that India should be a home for all type of people ... but they should not beg for anything they should have ability to develop themselves ... this is how India will rise!
If possible ... try to not ask for reservation based on what caste you belong to ... but check if the same reservation can help any needy ... because if you are capable and have even very limited resources ... still you will be able to make your way to the top, but the poor people who are suffering will never be able to get out of their misery unless helped!
