RE:Mrs Jadhav from Satara-- Going TO LATUR!
by Sheetal Kaur on Jun 02, 2008 04:22 AM Permalink
Who are you referring to,were does in the configuring the people you mentioned fit in the Arushi murder case. How are they connected.
RE:Mrs Jadhav from Satara-- Going TO LATUR!
by ajay khanna on Jun 02, 2008 05:11 AM Permalink
Reddy, I have seen you writing these stupid comments in all kinds of articles. They don't make any sense... don't what your problem is???? You gotta stop man.. else I will have to get your email ID blocked. If you have something to say be clear about it rather than making noise in unrelated artciles.
RE:Mrs Jadhav from Satara-- Going TO LATUR!
by Sangeetha Santhanagopal on Jun 02, 2008 02:34 AM Permalink
How is this linked with the NOIDA double murder case?
The case is similar to the death of British teenager Scarlette Eden Keeling in Anjuna beach (Goa)..as well as the cricket coach Bob woolmer..some powerful goon(s) hand in it.. seems the police are either clueless or doing a good job of framing the innocent..to cover their sorry
UP police made kichidi of the case now CBI will unearth what?? 1. why wasnt the house in which two gruesome murders took place cordonned off. No one should have allowed include Talwars and others. 2. What sophistication techniques were used to gather evidence - UP Police hahaha 3. Arushis PC was taken after 10 days of murder what about that. 4 Why was body released so quick. 5 Finally how much money changed hands to make kichidi of the case.
RE:UP Police Kichidi
by OceanBlue on Jun 01, 2008 10:50 PM Permalink
Instead, the house became a haven for curious onlookers who had no connection with the family. Typical Indian mentality - people enjoy poking their nose into others' lives. People actually went into the Talwars' house just to see where the murder happened etc. How insensitive can our society get!!!
The cops got disillusioned because of the 24 hour attacks from the media. Yes the media has to take its share of the blame, and also for suggesting loose charecter of Aarushi first. It was not the police but the media wanted a titilating story and had first suggested relation between Aarushi and Hemraj.
The media people had also dared to disturb the evidence in front of the camera. It was strange the police could/did not take action on these people.
As I see it from the information available some one who was known to Hemraj had come calling on him with a liquor bottle and he was speaking loud so the guest was taken upstairs by Hemraj so as not to disturb the inmates. The guest had a big reason to be anoyed of the Hemraj. He finds a good moment or diverts his targets (Hemraj's) attention and hammers him, and quickly slits his throat. Neither sharp edged weapons not slitting the throats of animals is new to the Nepalis.
At this moment he hears some sound from Aarushi's room. Per haps she saw the act of throat slitting which could explain the fluid found in the postmortem. She jumps into bed and amids the sheets thinking perhaps the murderer did not notice her. But she too ends up in a similar fashion.
First it was the police ho were misled by the innocence/simplicity of Dr.Talwar later it was the Talwars who were misled by the police.
RE:Clue less police of Noida
by ranjit roy on Jun 02, 2008 01:25 AM Permalink
it amazes me to think the kind of police we have in our police force who dont know the ABCD of criminal investigation. i wonder how they got into the IPS in the first place!
the media has nothing to do with the cops' incompetencies, inefficiencies, negligence, idoicies, and stupidities. in this respect the media did a good job in telling the world the kind of police that we have - corrupt, callous, insensitive, and pet dogs of the powers that be...
RE:RE:Clue less police of Noida
by Govind-56 on Jun 02, 2008 10:32 AM Permalink
The incompetence of the police is proven to be 101% in this case. But it was partly because of the media sitting on the neck of the police. Whee from does the media get a right to disturb the evidence. It was the media which suggested honour killing on the very first day.
The cops got disillusioned because of the 24 hour attacks from the media. Yes the media has to take its share of the blame, and also for suggesting loose charecter of Aarushi first. It was not the police but the media wanted a titilating story and had first suggested relation between Aarushi and Hemraj.
The media people had also dared to disturb the evidence in front of the camera. It was strange the police could/did not take action on these people.
As I see it from the information available some one who was known to Hemraj had come calling on him with a liquor bottle and he was speaking loud so the guest was taken upstairs by Hemraj so as not to disturb the inmates. The guest had a big reason to be anoyed of the Hemraj. He finds a good moment or diverts his targets (Hemraj's) attention and hammers him, and quickly slits his throat. Neither sharp edged weapons not slitting the throats of animals is new to the Nepalis.
At this moment he hears some sound from Aarushi's room. Per haps she saw the act of throat slitting which could explain the fluid found in the postmortem. She jumps into bed and amids the sheets thinking perhaps the murderer did not notice her. But she too ends up in a similar fashion.
First it was the police ho were misled by the innocence/simplicity of Dr.Talwar later it was the Talwars who were misled by the police.
RE:Clue less police of Noida
by Govind-56 on Jun 02, 2008 10:05 AM Permalink
You are right but the freedom of the media ends when the liberty and self respect of an individual starts. It was the media which first suggested relation between Aarushi and Hemraj.
THE POINT I TRIED TO MAKE IS THAT IF THE FATHER HAS DONE IT HE SHOULD ADMIT , AND TELL THE TRUTH WHAT LED TO SUCH A DRASTIC THING , THIS COULD BE A LEARNIGN FOR ALL PARENTS AND TEENAGERS .
RE:you didnt get the messagw what i tried to make
by OceanBlue on Jun 01, 2008 10:42 PM Permalink
What learning? That there are rascals like you who justify murder?
RE:you didnt get the messagw what i tried to make
by OceanBlue on Jun 01, 2008 10:44 PM Permalink
How disgusting on your part to cast aspersions on the character of a 14 year old who is dead. Shame on you and all others who are delightfully quoting the media and helping to assassinate a young girl's character. Typical of the hypocrisy of our nation. Kishan - you are probably one of those men who justifies rape too, right? Im sure you believe that men are justified in raping women. Disgusting man.
RE:you didnt get the messagw what i tried to make
by Loan Shark on Jun 01, 2008 11:20 PM Permalink
he is not saying anything about the character of a 14 yr old ... why are you so mad?
RE:you didnt get the messagw what i tried to make
by OceanBlue on Jun 02, 2008 09:18 AM Permalink
You didnt read his earlier message. Kishan Patel posted a message saying that the father was justified in killing his characterless daughter. Thankfully the post was removed after an abuse alert.
RE:you didnt get the messagw what i tried to make
by anju on Jun 02, 2008 04:45 AM Permalink
i go along with u.the circumstances clearly indicate that the murderer is none other than the insider,then y do people like u blame the media and others and give an explanation inlength supporting them.the parents shud b hanged to death.
RE:you didnt get the messagw what i tried to make
by Govind-56 on Jun 02, 2008 10:19 AM Permalink
Dont use such sever words when you do not have either a motive theory nor any proof or circumstqantial evidence please.
RE:Noida Murders
by deven on Jun 02, 2008 02:07 AM Permalink
what a stupidity.. tantrik? huh !! I guess India is much ahead of that age, specially cities.. it is nothing but a big conspiracy going on.. police is playing games.. there baseless theories are laughing stock.. and media is unnecessarily causing more trouble to the families involved.. nothing is clear yet that who is done it.. and it will be stupid to point fingures towards anyone at this stage
RE:Noida Murders
by Govind-56 on Jun 02, 2008 10:22 AM Permalink
There is no logic in your statement. Why do you suggest a mafia killing. If the parents wanted a son they could conceive another child no one stopped them.
It's heartening to see a politician be proactive and come out of the closet to help a family who's honor has been dragged into the drain. Given the low expectations we all have of Mayawati, her proactive action seems commendable. It's ironical that in India when a politician or ruler does something good, which is what theyre SUPPOSED to do in the first place, everyone is so shocked. Goes to show what a 'scum-bad' reputation most politicans have. Anyways, be that as it may, I think that transferring the officials is not enough. They should be suspended. Why transfer them and use the taxpayers money to relocate them and their families to a new place? In the US, an inidividual has a right to file a defamation suit for the smallest of accusations. Unfortunately here in India, the inidividual's rights are bound in ropes by goondas in the police force. All these police officials who dared to question Arushi's character should be stripped in public and paraded on the streets of Noida and delhi. That will teach them the meaning and value of a person's honor.
A 26-year-old man has been arrested by the North-West Delhi police for allegedly killing his 50-year-old mother at Rohini on Saturday. The accused was apparently depressed over his failure in various competitive examinations and could not take his mother’s taunts.
According to the police, a call was received around 11-30 a.m. saying that three men had killed Kailash Kumari. The police reached the spot and found the third floor of the house ransacked. The body of the woman was recovered from a bed box. The police also recovered some sedative pills.
On being questioned by the police, the youngest son Vipul told them that three persons, claiming to be from his mother’s village, came to the house and murdered her. However, the police felt something amiss in his story. Following intense questioning, Vipul allegedly confessed to having killed his mother.
The above case is also from NCR published in a leading news paper. Will this be given to the CBI? Why so much of talk is going around about this case alone? In the above case a son's murdered the mother in Arushi's the father is the accused. There is something beyond this murder.
RE:Man charged with mother%u2019s murder -- How different is the case from Arushi
by Loan Shark on Jun 01, 2008 11:29 PM Permalink
as you said, the son, vipul, has confessed to killing his mother ... so, I guess that there is no role for CBI in it.
As for arushi's murder and that of the servant, there are persons of interest .. the father is a suspect, but not much evidence supports his being the killer .. no confession grom him either ... hence the need for CBI or whatever investigation.
RE:Man charged with mother%u2019s murder -- How different is the case from Arushi
by ajay khanna on Jun 02, 2008 05:24 AM Permalink
Yeah.. will see if Vipul changes his statement.. till then peace... one case solved....