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Plz Indian Goverment taken required steps instead of giving useless speechs
by kohinamishra on Jul 29, 2008 09:32 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Create a network of surveillance cameras:
Pump money into forensics:
Give more work to the RTO:
Shopkeepers as sleuths:
National ID cards:
National law on terror:
Create a Department of National Security:
National database of suspects:
Bring in the CBI:
Police the police:

[HT]


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RE:Plz Indian Goverment taken required steps instead of giving useless speechs
by james on Jul 29, 2008 09:48 AM  Permalink
Excellent thoughts.

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RE:Plz Indian Goverment taken required steps instead of giving useless speechs
by pacificblue on Jul 29, 2008 10:26 AM  Permalink
You forgot to add.
Throw Congress Out:

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RE:Plz Indian Goverment taken required steps instead of giving useless speechs
by Chanakya on Jul 29, 2008 09:52 AM  Permalink
absolutely the right way to end the menace - but, to implement the above, Kohinamishra, James and Chanakya should be governing the country, not with the current set of politicians.

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Congress will do whatever is in best interest of our nation
by Dhaval on Jul 29, 2008 09:06 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

RSS ko jo ukhadna hai ukahd ley. Only congress can rule India in these kind of situation.

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RE:Congress will do whatever is in best interest of our nation
by kranti on Jul 29, 2008 09:49 AM  Permalink
yeah, congress only can create Bindrawala, then cause the Blue star operation and be a mute spectator in 1984 massacares and make a Minotrity PM and act as if it never indulged in communal things. Only congress can engineer communal roits and still play secular to the gallary ...

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RE:Congress will do whatever is in best interest of our nation
by vishal gupta on Jul 29, 2008 09:35 AM  Permalink
very right, only and only congress can create such situation....


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RE:Congress will do whatever is in best interest of our nation
by Shubhangi on Jul 29, 2008 09:49 AM  Permalink
Very well said Mr.Gupta. But a small correction. It is not just the congress but even the left parties along with host of small regional parties like Lalu Yadav's party,Paswan's party etc can do it too.

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RE:Congress will do whatever is in best interest of our nation
by Rajinder Katoch on Jul 29, 2008 10:09 AM  Permalink
Ironically, all these small time politicians like Laloo, Mulayam, Ram Vilas rose in their careers by doing anti-congress politicis. They are basically jugglers who walk on ropes. They are always with powerful.



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RE:Congress will do whatever is in best interest of our nation
by Chanakya on Jul 29, 2008 09:54 AM  Permalink
I agree with Dhaval - Congress can only RULE, they never Governed or take care of the nation...they are RULERS always worst than the British

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RE:Congress will do whatever is in best interest of our nation
by Abyss on Jul 29, 2008 09:48 AM  Permalink
60 saal se congress rule kar rahi hai. kya kar liya usnay. desh ke paas na to dhang ka intelligence wing hai and Enforcement beaureau aur na he majboot security. congress neta phattu hain. tabhi terrorist bhi chaahtay hain ki congress ka he india pe raj ho and that why they are targetting BJP ruled states

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BJP should send the Right Message
by AK on Jul 29, 2008 09:01 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Gujarat Riots is the biggest Stain in governance of Independent India. Pilgrims in a train burn alive when it catches fire. Fire may have been accidental or planted. Government should condemn this (act) and vow to get to the bottom of the incident. Gujarat riots take place and innocent people die. Could be anger displayed due to the initial information regarding the train. It can (but should not in a civilised society) happen. Government does not condemn this riot and appears to be sympathizers of the rioters. Message was clear that it was government sponsored. Government is elected to take care of all the people living in the state and not only one community. This was the worst message sent out by the MODI government. BJP instead of condemning MODI and/or the incident, appeared to be favouring MODI ever since and are even projecting him to be the PM of India one day. This is the reason hatred is spreading in BJP ruled states. BJP can come to power since Hindus are majority and fear monger has been spread by BJP.

To combat spread of this hatred, BJP should introspect and take proper actions against MODI. This message will clearly demonstrate a step in the right direction as NC MP Omar Abdullah spoke in his speech during debate. This will hopefully stop spread of this low intensity, localized spread of inborn terrorism.

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RE:BJP should send the Right Message
by Sanjeev Mishra on Jul 29, 2008 10:04 AM  Permalink
Why the same rule does not apply on Congress for anti Sikh riots in Delhi. What riot had Hindoos done in Bangladesh where one who even condemn the riots is turned a refugee for life (Taslima). Its basically in the religion.

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RE:RE:BJP should send the Right Message
by kranti on Jul 29, 2008 09:57 AM  Permalink
In civilized society the natives should not be thrown out of their home state and ethnic cleansing should not be done

In civilized society a writer is not allowed to put forward her onions on a religion, while a painter can draw what ever he wants regarding other religion goddess.

In civilized society only some cartoons of Danish origin cause for protests and semi riots in aggressive way (because of Danish riots offices of RSS and VHP were attacked in India)

People die in train as it was inflamed from out side at a railway cross, but the secular media says its accident. Yeah people ignited the stoves and closed the doors from inside. the stone pelters are innocent

What civilized society are you talking.


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RE:BJP should send the Right Message
by Abyss on Jul 29, 2008 09:52 AM  Permalink
entire kashmiri pandit population were thrown out of the valley. wasn't that a "biggest Stain in governance of Independent India". how can anyone displace the citizen of india from its own terrotory. there you dont have any objection Mr AK. keep your mouth shut. We all know what happened in Gujarat was a crime but by taking modi to gallow what would you achieve. look at the bigger picture. first prove that modi was indeed behind the crime

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RE:BJP should send the Right Message
by A P on Jul 29, 2008 09:09 AM  Permalink
Gujarat riots were bad but the biggest act of barbarism was the mass killings and exodus of Kashmiri Pandits by the majority community of Kashmir. Nobody has condenmed it the way people have condenmed post Godhra riots because it iss not fashionable to condenm sufferings of Hindus.


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RE:BJP should send the Right Message
by AK on Jul 29, 2008 09:18 AM  Permalink
Government did not condone the act but retracted its step to stop further rioting. CM even sacrificed his government in order to stop rioting. It may have been too early in the steps of confidence building that backfired.

My point is that ruling Government should never support any wrong by anybody. But steps have to be taken to bring peace and harmony.

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RE:BJP should send the Right Message
by OceanBlue on Jul 29, 2008 09:42 AM  Permalink
I agree AP. Whenever Hindus die - dismiss it as petty politics by Hindus, but when Muslims die its a genocide. We Hindus are the only race of people, who devalue our own community, in the name of being tolerant to muslims. Shame on all Hindus who do this. Im astonished that even after all this, some great self righteous Hindus want to continue appeasing muslim sentiments.

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RE:BJP should send the Right Message
by VISHWANATHA on Jul 29, 2008 10:41 AM  Permalink
BJP should send a right message by giving full support to The God man of Gujarat Mr. Narenda modi. Who is real secular and saved Gujarat. he is only person in india have courage to fight against terrorism. Modi can only handle the Gujarat and save Gujarath from Muslim fundmentalist.
Modiji only question Sonia Manio. He is above all he is God.

Save Gujarat. Support modi. "Sambhavami Yuge Yuge."
Win every elections as common man(CM) and become CM of Gujarath util all devils vanished

Hate BJP no problem. But love Modiji, he is above all, become world power modiji

Good luck Modiji

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RE:BJP should send the Right Message
by SHAAN on Jul 29, 2008 11:36 AM  Permalink
MR AK,
YOU MAY BE VERY YOUNGER IN AGE OR HAVE A VERY LESS KNOWLEDGE ABOUT PAST INCIDENTS,GUJRAT RIOT AND AFTER INCIDENCE ARE NOTHING,YOU JUST LEARN OR REMEMBER THE TRAGEDY OF INDO PAK PARTITION THERE ARE MORE THAN CRORE OF PEOPLE LOST THEIR HOUSES,PROPERTY AND LACS OF PEOPLE LOST THEIR LIVES. I HAVE SEEN SINGLE HANDEDLY THE DEAD BODIES OF MORE THAN 10 THOUSAND HINDUS IN LAYAL PUR CAMP.

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Police link US man's computer to India bomb e-mail
by RB on Jul 29, 2008 08:56 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Indian police link US man's computer to e-mail taking credit for bombs that killed 45

MATTHEW ROSENBERG
AP News

Jul 28, 2008 10:15 EST

Police raided the home of an American citizen in Mumbai, India's financial capital, and seized a computer from which an e-mail claiming responsibility for bombings that killed 45 people in western India was believed to have been sent, officials said Monday.
The 48-year-old American has not been detained and is not currently a suspect, police said.

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Stop Community Bashing
by AK on Jul 29, 2008 08:25 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

The communities that have been suppressed over the ages, e.g. Blacks in US & Dalits in India, or the minorities, e.g. Jews & Indians in US and Muslims & Sikhs in India, need to be protected from the society at large. We can not keep complaining about special interest or affirmative action laws. They are needed to integrate these communities. Minority communities will always band together to safeguard themselves from the rest. There are too many parallels between the Indian community in US and Muslims in India.

Having said that, let us concentrate on solving the problems facing our future. Instead of making derogatory comments about any community, positive comments about the future: inclusive economic growth, advantages of education of children in main stream schools, and the harmony as a whole should be discussed. Disharmony exists mainly among the uneducated & poor on both sides. If we keep emphasizing positives, positive will propagate.

J&K was beginning to look to be returning to normalcy but Amarnath fiasco derailed that. Muslims in Pakistan are also realizing the (non)effect of economic prosperity.

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RE:Stop Community Bashing
by vinay prakash on Jul 29, 2008 10:30 AM  Permalink
Sikhs in India have never faced any oppression and if that had ever happened it happened under Congress rule. (so called secular party). So please do not club Sikhs with muslims. because unlike Muslims, Sikhs had always fought for India and not against India. Infact Sikhs were formed to fight and protect Indian borders from attack from the west (mainly Muslims)

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RE:Stop Community Bashing
by AK on Jul 29, 2008 08:43 AM  Permalink
Indians in US face lot less problems since they are mostly highly educated & economically well off.

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Just as a myth was created that voting Modi and terrorists will flee, a new myth is created that POTA will end terrorism
by All Right on Jul 29, 2008 07:55 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

When Pota was operational during NDA's time, some of the most audacious terrorist attacks took place

Track Record of Pota

- Parliament 4 killed
- Akshardhaam ? killed
- Raghunath Mandir ? killed
- Air india flight hijack 1 killed
- American Center 5 killed
- Mumbai 48 killed
- Amarnath pilgrims 150 killed


So attacks will take place, with or without such laws. Only 1 conviction under Pota.

The problem is more deeper. An advisory warning will not help state governments. In Karnataka the Police came across evidence of a blast in Channapatna - 50 kms from Bangalore, a day earlier and recovered a car full of explosives. The State government did nothing. This despite a central government advisory to be on high alert - 3 days before the blast.

The Centre gave an advisory warning to Gujarat 3 days before the blast. Despite Bangalore blast, the State government did nothing. The Gujarat government instead commenting on the Bangalore blast boasted on TV that such terror strikes would not hit Gujarat.

Instead of mainstreaming disgruntled sections of society - Naxalites, Muslims etc, the BJP and Hindutva follwers isolate them further. As long as this happens, POTA or even a stronger law will not help.

The Gujarat government complain that Central warning was not actionable. OK. Now that the blast has taken place, can they crack the case and bring the terrorist to book. At least if they do that, there is some hope.



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Pop Goes Modi Model. Modi Becomes National Laughing Stock as Myth Burst
by All Right on Jul 29, 2008 07:53 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Vote Us and Banish Terror, BJP slogan.

After Ajmer, now comes Bangalore - both states ruled by BJP. Before that Akshardhaam - Gujarat, another state ruled by BJP. Even Modi could not stop terror. When the BJP led NDA ruled, the terrorist even had the audacity to attack parliament!

One has to be an idiot to buy BJP's slogan

Though links have been drawn between Bangalore and Ahmedabad blasts, the difference is also appreciated. In Bangalore, it looks as if it was a retailation. BJP goons celebrating their party in power, threw pork into a mosque, leading to communal tension. The government looked the other way naturally as their own goons were involved. So the Muslims took the terror route to warn the govt not to mess with them. Their intention was to warn not to destruct.

Gujarat was apparently different. This was a reaction to Godhra and Modi. No CM of any state except madman Modi challenges Terrorists to strike his state. Now they did and also made a point to maximally destroy Modis own constituency. So toll in Bangalore and Ahmedabad tell their own story. Bangalore 1, Ahmedabad 50

Modi remains the only CM in India's entire History to challenge terrorists to attack a state (Gujarat). This madman, Gujus try to sell to the rest of the country as PM material. Gujus have only themselves to blame for electing this madman



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RE:Pop Goes Modi Model. Modi Becomes National Laughing Stock as Myth Burst
by John Corniche on Jul 29, 2008 09:26 AM  Permalink
Your brain is rotten ...

you are totally communal guy who don't care a damn for human life ... simply becoz Hindus have died in those blasts.

Your reasoning of blasts were carried out for certain reasons is also imaginary as Terrorists will not hesitate to bomb your mosque next time if you don't listen to them (look at whats happening to surrendered militants in J&K).

Bottomline is, you will not live peacefully with other communities ... come what may !

Modi or No Modi, you will continue to fight with other communities all over the world.

There are so many other minorities in India like Sikhs, Parsis & Jains etc ... who have never ever complained & have mixed with the mainstream of this country.

Look at yourself & try to introspect. These blasts will not improve image of you & your community.

There is no use trying to justify the blasts or provide reasoning ... becoz people know the truth.

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Gated Communities
by san man on Jul 29, 2008 03:15 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Gated communities will be safer for everyone. After 9/11, there was a lot of talk about people moving away from cities and over to smaller village-style communities, where they would mainly be among people they know and trust. Likewise, with India suffering terror attrocities every day, then it should be appropriate to move into gated communities and also back to smaller villages, where people aren't bunched up into one large target.

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RE:Gated Communities
by ann on Jul 29, 2008 07:20 AM  Permalink
you expect people to leave their lives and start all over again. Where are they going to find work ?

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rediff: please find out
by rishi on Jul 29, 2008 02:48 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

he is connected and sympathetic to the jihadi attacks. He clearly shares the stretigic mision and goals of the Islamic jihadis.

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RE:rediff: please find out
by rishi on Jul 29, 2008 02:49 AM  Permalink
rediff must find out "allrgiht's" identity

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RE:Pop Goes Modi's Model. Modi Becomes National Laughing Stock as Myth Goes Burst
by All Right on Jul 29, 2008 02:23 AM  Permalink
Why Pota??

When Pota was operational during NDA's time, some of the most audacious terrorist attacks took place - Parliament, Akshardhaam, Reghuram Mandir etc So attacks will take place, with or without such laws.

The problem is more deeper. An advisory warning will not help state governments. In Karnataka the Police came across evidence of a blast in Channapatna - 50 kms from Bangalore, a day earlier and recovered a car full of explosives. The State government did nothing. This despite a central government advisory to be on high alert - 3 days before the blast.

The Centre gave an advisory warning to Gujarat 3 days before the blast. Despite Bangalore blast, the State government did nothing. The Gujarat government instead commenting on the Bangalore blast boasted on TV that such terror strikes would not hit Gujarat.

Instead of mainstreaming disgruntled sections of society - Naxalites, Muslims etc, the BJP and Hindutva follwers isolate them further. As long as this happens, POTA or even a stronger law will not help.

The Gujarat government complain that Central warning was not actionable. OK. Now that the blast has taken place, can they crack the case and bring the terrorist to book. At least if they do that, there is some hope.

But we have no hope since the enemy is invisible


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RE:Pop Goes Modi's Model. Modi Becomes National Laughing Stock as Myth Goes Burst
by MS on Jul 29, 2008 02:46 AM  Permalink
DISEASED GUY, WRITES SOME RUBBISH ONLY HE CAN APPRECIATE.

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RE:RE:Pop Goes Modi's Model. Modi Becomes National Laughing Stock as Myth Goes Burst
by Guest on Jul 29, 2008 04:01 AM  Permalink
Dear friend,
This is not an attack aganist modi or BJP.This is aganist our country.We have to take it in that sense.They mean to disturb the unity of our country from ur words I think they almost achieve it this is the time to be united and fight aganist this evils .
And remember the things that India is a country having rush markets ,railway stations etc were tight security is not at all possible .
so one thing we can do is to be united instead of blaming each other
bharatmata....kee....jaii

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