The country is surrendering to the dictates of religious fundamentalists of every hue who are prescribing the agenda at will. With anti-terror laws dismantled and human rights activists defending them terrorists R not scared
Delhi, Jaipur Hyderabad Ahmedabad, the serial bomb blasts conveys a message hard to ignore as mere coincidence. The methodology of using Improvised Explosive Devices attached to bicycles definitely indicates that though it is carried by outside help, the perpetrators must be largely locals and sleeper cells, activated. But it has a more ominous significance. With the elections scheduled in five states this year and Lok Sabha elections forthcoming, the terrorists are sending a message to the ruling UPA government. BJP is now getting popular and the terrorists are trying their best through their attack to see that this party, which is accusing the government of appeasing the minority, is driven on the backfoot. Also with the Centre also calling the BJP, non-secular, day-in day-out and indulging in Goebellian propoganda, the implication of the message becomes quite clear.
RE:whats the report on Rain In Mumbai
by Albert Adibadla on Jul 28, 2008 09:35 AM Permalink
thakare is passing bowels like rain!!! old man is going to die!!!
When Bangalore blast took place by 7.30 in the evening all electronic media sstopped showing news on blasst in bangalore and when it comes to GUJARAT or any Hindi state the coverae will continue for years.
Why Sonia /PM /aadvani not visited bangalore and now every body rushing to Ahmedabad
RE:RE:Banglore v/s Ahmedabad
by nimit patel on Jul 28, 2008 10:03 AM Permalink
here also u are bringing back polictics.. i dotn know that even u went to ahmedabad or not... if u are connected this to godhra then its wrong... because 9 blast happen near muslim community in ahmedabad... and the most lives taken is at civil hospital blast...
so if they want to take revenge of godhra then they never do it near muslim community... second why every one feel modi is reason.. what about jaipur, banglore... in banglore death toll was low because it was less density area...
where a bad is very densy.. u know population of ahmedabad.. its mroe then 70 lack.. bigger then even banglore...
one more thing i like to tell u and its most important... if u connect it godhra then ahmedabad was most affected area in 2002... and if 26 july... if riots started against because of thinking like u.. hten do u know what happen??? more destructive then 2002... but doest it happen??? no ,... so praise good thig 0f 2008... ok... why guj govt invite army for flag march in jsut 12 hours/?? to avoid those chances of riots...
RE:Banglore v/s Ahmedabad
by syed nabil taj on Jul 28, 2008 09:44 AM Permalink
People from Gujarat are warm and peace loving that stands even for all religions and communities. Not many places in India can boast of unshakable love between brothers, sisters, relatives. We are known for our bonding. We have had our differences and we have had our share of horrific incidents, barring riots we live together in peace. I have friends from all religion and we love each other. It is difficlut to say that locals were involved.
I am not defending anyone, may this has been carried out by some Islamic fundamentalits as there have been so many other blasts committed by them. But if this was to happen by locals it would have happened long time before.
Hindu or Muslims in Gujarat they cannot stoop to such low levels. It is difficult to accept that locals have done it or even supported it.
RE:Banglore v/s Ahmedabad
by Kamal on Jul 28, 2008 09:57 AM Permalink
Very well said. India needs more and more progressive Muslims like you. Its good for Islam and the people both. Fundamentalism is a curse whose price the ordinary and innocent public always pays. It has no effect on the politicians or their decisions. They will continue to divide the society on one pretext or the other to garner votes. If fundamentalists understand this, they should stop all this violence. Its not good for anyone.
RE:RE:Banglore v/s Ahmedabad
by nimit patel on Jul 28, 2008 10:09 AM Permalink
i dont know u are from gujarat or not .. but i am rom central gujarat and i had seen all thing from my eyes..
and i like to tell one thing.. that if hindu and muslim are not living happily in last 6 yrs.. then gujarat may finished today... buit its not like that..
and most important thing.. even after blast in ahmedabad.. all hindu and muslim was helping each other together...
what u tell this things??? when riots happen u are baliming govt... when now balst happen.. and people are together and united.. u never apreciate that?? why???
also BJP govt.. i dont think theya re doing bad thing from muslim at least in gujarat.. i never seen that a muslim govt office loose his job.. or muslim doctor loose his job.. or such thing.. hindu and muslim are living with good connected reliogion.. but this people from out state just make things worsen..
RE:Banglore v/s Ahmedabad
by syed nabil taj on Jul 28, 2008 10:22 AM Permalink
i am from baroda and very happy with the decision. i love this city and i love gujarati culture and more than anything i love gujaratis. There is nothng wring with any government office and with gods mercy nothing should go wrong.
But we need to take these fundamentalists to task and we need to take them hard. Unforutnate it is that no matter which government in centre we have not been able to teach any lesson to any of our neighbour who keep testing our patience. I am 33 but wish we could go to war with these countries finish them off and i join the same, but then i also think that bloodshed is the easiest way to handle things can there be no other way.
We need Mahatma, Swami Vivekananda, Gautan Buddha to help us again. We need them and we need God's help more than anybody else's.
RE:Banglore v/s Ahmedabad
by syed nabil taj on Jul 28, 2008 09:18 AM Permalink
thats call political mileage. I don't know much on Bangalore but may be there are lot of literate people who understand not to extract political gains from horrific incidents. In Gujarat situation is different.
Curse to those who plants bombs and many curses to those who kill innocent people in name of religion, that includes and begins with politicians.
MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON THEIR AND OUR SOULS AND MAY THE DEAD REST IN PEACE. OLD SAYING" WE WNAT PEACE IN INDIA NOT PIECE OF INDIA", may be someone has to give classes to politicians on human behaviour and explain them that every action has a equal and opposite reaction". We have to have stringent laws on terrorism and genocides.
RE:Banglore v/s Ahmedabad
by nimit patel on Jul 28, 2008 09:55 AM Permalink
advani is MP from gandhinagar near to ahmedabad, and he is supremo of BJP so he is obviously go there, but why sonia and MMS??? jsut to take political milege,
question is not why BJP or Congress the question is we are spending crores of rs on intelligence, we had three branches.. RAW, IB, and CBI.,.. may be more then 50000 people are in this organisaiton... but what they are doing..
they are telling blast may be happen in metro... beware... and after that they are claiming we told govt this may happen...
but india is too big country with 110 cr population.. lacks of village thousand of city... and just this information is enought//./..
i heart from one comisioner;s son that at least 3-4 times a month intelligence telling govt blast may be take place... wehre that dont know... and after that claiming... we told them !!!!!!!!!
now what a meaning of such information which u are issuing in generala to all the states... is it okay???
police is technically not that much upgraded thanks to the politicians... they dont have much powerful tools, they dont have direct information network with intelligence.. because intelligence behaving like they are superior then this hawaldar... and they are feeling their dity is jsut to inform...
if such type of information go on what it can be done??
RE:Banglore v/s Ahmedabad
by syed nabil taj on Jul 28, 2008 09:37 AM Permalink
Well hard working or not is a separate question. Hatred ignites from them and settles in people like you and me. Actions are instigated by them and they end with innocents killing innocents. They may be hard working but at the same time they are also hungry for their seats. And please when any one says politicians we are referring to the ones who act and behave this way not all of them. Around 93 there was a MLA from outer Delhi consituency belonging to Congress. Police came to arrest him for his involvement in anti Sikh riots of '84. They were unable to arrest him because people from his local contituency use to consider him a demi god. This does not mean that he is one. May be he was hard working but his actions if in case he is guilty is unpardonable.
RE:RE:Banglore v/s Ahmedabad
by sandip darji on Jul 28, 2008 09:58 AM Permalink
I understand you are pointing towards Modi. But please don't try to get mileage. This is the time to be unite and stop blame game.
If you want we can play this game afterwards and I asure you, I alone can defeate you.
RE:Banglore v/s Ahmedabad
by syed nabil taj on Jul 28, 2008 10:08 AM Permalink
I give up now itself why do we have to play any games. As far as pointing fingers are concerened it is not pointed towards any individual, let it be any one. Example i sighted was to explain that there are some politicians who are not good, i hate Rajiv for what he did in '84, Anti Sikh riots i have seen with my own eyes and i have seen my sikh friends not wearing there turban in fear. We commoners don't take mileage we sit and watch people with powers taking mileage.
This is the time to unite and bring these barbarians down. They are killing i am least bothered with what intention, muslim or any other religion no one has given them the right to do it. And thats the reason i said the above. Whay point blame on an individual alone we all have to change and we all have to ensure that peace prevails and guilty of all sections are put behind bars.
RE:Banglore v/s Ahmedabad
by syed nabil taj on Jul 28, 2008 09:29 AM Permalink
Well i was reffering to Politicians and the death toll has nothing to do with mileage. Mileage is gained by politicians and deaths are suffered by innocents.
With literate does not mean participating in rediff discussion board, with literate you mean hell of other things which you should and must be aware of if you really feel sorry for the state we all are in. State which can heal but needs a lot of trust, love and honour.
RE:Banglore v/s Ahmedabad
by sandip darji on Jul 28, 2008 09:56 AM Permalink
syed. I belong to ahmedabad and I can claim that this is just to get the mileage against Modi. If you don't know and away, don't comment particularly regarding literacy..Hope you understand this. Better understading economy and literacy you make understand your own people (Muslims) who are against humanity and infact islam.
RE:MY FOOT. ADVANI AND MODI ARE KILLERS AND SO ARE THE MUSLIM TERRORISTS!!!
by syed nabil taj on Jul 28, 2008 09:13 AM Permalink
Not destroyed but hanged upside down on cauldron with fire burning out of it. But lets start with politicians right from 84 till date who have committed genocide and are walking with their heads upright. They should be ashamed of themselves, this is what you reap from what you sow? Hatred, bloodshed and in human atrocities from human to a human.
Thanks to all the dirty politics we are heading towards barbaric ages.
RE:MY FOOT. ADVANI AND MODI ARE KILLERS AND SO ARE THE MUSLIM TERRORISTS!!!
by indee nemani on Jul 28, 2008 10:15 AM Permalink
syed, going bye that root cause theory we can trace back orgin of 'organized hatred' to elsewhere in the world...so lets not include it here..also All right's version above is point 1. imagine a similar idle youth getting funds from abroad...network operating from ... basically all gujjus are pro business and peace loving... this must be the handy work of a UP based guys who have no trace of development in their state..they are tought to hate since schooling very early days...the education system has to be neutral...they are not taught to reason 'why 'is not their in their dictionary...their very identity is created by negating others around...anyone who grows up in a culture feels at home with it nostalgic thats human nature,...in their case they dont have mainstream education and they are made to feel safe...the mindssets are built our security lies in the destruction of others...Now good that lalu is offering Railway jobs to the graduates from that school of thought...i wish i was born on the other side...what a luxury to be a united minority (swing state) in divided majority..enjoy...the socalled academia, i have friends who are educated with us in childhood who think and behave normally. there is a venom of hatred is breast fed to minds breaking the milk of innate goodness at heart from early days molded in that fashion..this hatred and zeal to dominate numerically unites..hence the sickular politicians at beck and call...
RE:MY FOOT. ADVANI AND MODI ARE KILLERS AND SO ARE THE MUSLIM TERRORISTS!!!
by syed nabil taj on Jul 28, 2008 10:29 AM Permalink
Why do we have to blame UP'tes, we are all one and we need to bring down these walls that we have created ourselves. We have shia, sunni, hindu muslim and many other lines that throw us in opposite direction. We don't need UP-Bihar, and lines between states. We are a bunch of peace loving people and we have to make a head start by bringing down these lines. We need to be compassinate and loving.
And sorry to say but i got to go i am interacting during office hours and its Monday morning.
Regards and love to all, May GOD lights to the soul of all humans. We are one and we need to be one.
RE:MY FOOT. ADVANI AND MODI ARE KILLERS AND SO ARE THE MUSLIM TERRORISTS!!!
by syed nabil taj on Jul 28, 2008 09:48 AM Permalink
Misguied forever are the people who kill and it holds true for islamic or any other fundamentalist organisation.
Right said, democracy and secularism is the way forward, but who will stop these people.
How do i stop these people who kill and how will you stop these people who kill. Our numbers are less they are more,
Benard Shaw once said, " If you cannot see GOD in the person next to you, you should give up his search", what do we do, this is our country and we are just watching helplessly. How can we spread message of peace.
RE:MY FOOT. ADVANI AND MODI ARE KILLERS AND SO ARE THE MUSLIM TERRORISTS!!!
by Sun on Jul 28, 2008 09:53 AM Permalink
Comrade. Did you see the latest poll by some international agency. 30% of the Chinese HATE Indians.And you traitor want us to follow the Chinese dogs. Go back to your motherland you fatherless A hole.
