All states including the BJP ruled states must agree to the centres efforts to form a federal agency to fight terror. It is learnt that NDA ruled states have been opposing it (why i dont know!). It is time to break ranks.
RE:Federal Agency
by Kishore Kumar on Jul 28, 2008 07:30 AM Permalink
I strongly doubt the hands of BJP is also not clean... If a white president can kill their own people for political survival, indian polititians can also think of that...
RE:Federal Agency
by South Indian on Jul 28, 2008 07:37 AM Permalink
All Right If your coment above is not stupid whats that? Tis is not any BJP-Congress fight. Instead of doing something creative, you are joking at it.
RE:RE:Federal Agency
by All Right on Jul 28, 2008 07:33 AM Permalink
:) Oh yes... it is the BJP who is doing all this.... And Southie's fabulous Centre is sitting idle?... :-)
Maybe its supporter SP is not allowing it to carry on with the good work this time around... :-)
MMS does choose his supporters carefully, thinking in advance what excuses he'll be inventing for not doing something critical, ain't he?... :-)
RE:Federal Agency
by South Indian on Jul 28, 2008 07:28 AM Permalink
In the absence of a central agency, police forces across five states are independently trying to track perpetrators and conspirators of terrorist attacks, right from those in Malegaon, Varanasi and Hyderabad to blasts in Ajmer and Jaipur. The states do share information with each other, but an official said the information flow is only a trickle.
Home Ministry officials acknowledged that the proposal sent to states as part of the Supreme Court’s observations on police reforms had met with stiff resistance from all states barring a handful of exceptions. Gujarat was among those that had opposed any move to tinker with the constitutional status, giving the states a free hand in handling law and order.
RE:Federal Agency
by All Right on Jul 28, 2008 07:31 AM Permalink
Oh... so the real problem is information sharing?... :-)
And the Centre obviously CAN stop all terrorist activities, it is the States who are not allowing it to do that?... :-)
Wow.... at times it is their partners (Left) who don't allow them to do things in the 4 years .... now its the states who do not allow them to curb terrorism.... :-)
Looks like this is a government of excuse makers... :-) Excuse me for the joke.... :-)
The states administration is trying to hide their failure by blaming center squarely for the atacks. Once the intelligence inputs are given, it is for the state police to prevent such things happen. Usually army is not deployed for such actions. Here in this case even though there was high alert in the city all these 20 blasts took place.
RE:Jaipur, Bangalore, Ahmedabad
by All Right on Jul 28, 2008 07:18 AM Permalink
Southie:
For all you know there might have been 60 blasts planned. But of course you are right since you know every detail of how everything is planned, who is doing this, who should be preventing this, etc... :-)
We need a special force at the national level to compact terrorism. Unless there is proper intelligence wing in the national and states level, these things will go on. Here even when the Ahmedabad city was put on high alert, the police couldnt prevent 17 (or 25?) explosions across the city. It points to the failure of current system. We require people who are specialised, a special federal investigating agency.
RE:National Anti-terror agency
by South Indian on Jul 28, 2008 07:21 AM Permalink
MMS govt have been pressing for this at least for last months and it didnt progress mainly because of the opposition from NDA chief ministers. The reasons i dont know. At least now they should agree.
RE:National Anti-terror agency
by All Right on Jul 28, 2008 07:36 AM Permalink
Another EXCUSE Southie...
The N-deal fiasco was first blamed on the Left, and then without any consensus or agreements MMS did forge ahead with the N-deal... didn't he? And you labelled him a HERO...
So what happened to this fabulous Special Force initiative?.... Proving he's a big ZERO by inventing excuses this time around for not being able to curb terrorist activities?... :-)
RE:National Anti-terror agency
by South Indian on Jul 28, 2008 07:52 AM Permalink
you didnt come out of the nuc deal yet??? people have seen through it and except some hard bjp/cpm people all others are fully supportive of this deal across India and in fact they have seen the real face of some "nationalist" leaders who are in fact pseudos...
RE:National Anti-terror agency
by South Indian on Jul 28, 2008 07:34 AM Permalink
All Right This is your exact problem and your party. Instead of finding a solution, you are more interestd in whether MMS is HERo or ZERO. For your knowledge, this is a constitutional thing. If the CMs oppose and go to the court, no MMS will be able to do something. And you must understand that to sign somehing like nuc deal you dont have to prove any majority/minority in parliament. MMS did it because he was starightforward and honest! Vajpayee never did it when he himself declared/signed Tibet as part of China and moratorium on nuc tests. You must know these things!!
For a concept like Federal Agency to be formed, the state govts has to agree.
RE:RE:National Anti-terror agency
by All Right on Jul 28, 2008 07:38 AM Permalink
:) Southie:
Don't worry. You too have a problem and your party too... :-)
Since you are introducing facts and figures not germane to the issue and proving State govt is incompetent (which by the way makes you as guilty as anybody else for not trying to find a solution, but blaming the State governments..:-)
RE:muslim-free world
by Rajunov Singh on Jul 28, 2008 07:31 AM Permalink
yes i am preparing myself for a life in islamic paradise with 72 virgins.....wow....should need lots of viagra to keep up with the act...
RE:muslim-free world
by Rajunov Singh on Jul 28, 2008 08:07 AM Permalink
its mentioned in ur hadiths. go read some transcripts of jehadis singing under torture. 72 virgins eggs them as it inspires all muslims to go to paradise for sexual orgies.
Christians too claim that their God is the only God. So how do you know that what you believe is true?
Allah is no god - any god who insists that he alone be worshipped and threatens those who worship others with eternal hellfire is no better than a mafia boss.
Muhammad was not the messenger of any god but just an ordinary human who was suffering from delusions and thought that he was receiving messages from god. We can find many such Muhammads in any mental asylum. The only difference is that Muhammad was able to gather around him ignorant people who believed his absurd claims and spread it passionately with the sword.
That was quick.Bravo MMS.You were fast to save your voter brethern using Army.At every blast you also say only--maintain the communal harmony.We do maintain harmony and express love for SIMI and ISI till there is another blast.Your response is again-maintain communal harmony.A few haundred Hindu lives are lost but it doesnt matter.In true Gandhian trsdition we maintain communal harmony as Gandhi was fasting in Calcutta to maitain communal harmony while Naokhali was being systematically purged of Hindus,When not a single Hindu remained alive except few old skeltons he camped at Noakhali and earned encomiums from the world press. Hail secularism.Let Hindus die but communal harmony must be maintained
RE:Just like Muslims are NOT the issue, Pakistan is also NOT the issue!
by Loan Shark on Jul 28, 2008 07:11 AM Permalink
you got it right bro, islam is the root cause of the problem
RE:Just like Muslims are NOT the issue, Pakistan is also NOT the issue!
by Devavrata Satya on Jul 28, 2008 07:39 AM Permalink
Good points Mr. anir. Glad you recognise the real problem.
It is unfortunate that the terrorists chose Bangaluru and Gujarat to unleash the terror through serial bombing. Though the blasts in Bangalore were of low intensity where one person was killed and 14 injured, but it was huge and well planned in Ahemadabad that cause several deaths and injuries to others. The terrorists came out from the hiding to create fear. The Indians are strong people and they cannot be cowed down by fear of threat. They have the character and resolve to fight it out. Its time to act and not for rehtorics. The BJPs leaders starting from Advani down to others, one after another, started the blame game. According to them POTA would solve the problem. The Congress spsokesman Tiwari rightly pointed out its not time for rehtorics and scoring political points, and no law however stringent could have any effect on the mentality of the terrorists. They are out to avenge certain things. It is for the agencies concerned to uneath the sleeping cells and terror modules like in Tamilnadu, the Police there was quick to nab the culprit. Such swift actions are required. Send a strong message to terrorists that they will be chased to death. Its not a place for them to play their deadly game. The people and all political parties should be united to support the Govt effort to fight this menace. Muslims have condemned this inhuman act and whoever has done it must be brought to book. All the our sympathies go to the families of victims and pray for their recovery very soon.
RE:Serial Blasts in Bangaluru and Gujarat - Its time for action not rehtorics
by saumil shukla on Jul 28, 2008 07:04 AM Permalink
Without a proper anti terror law how do expect Terrorists to be punished Jamsheed ?
RE:Serial Blasts in Bangaluru and Gujarat - Its time for action not rehtorics
by jamsheed abumohammed on Jul 28, 2008 07:18 AM Permalink
Its the problems with us. When the snake bites a man, do we chase the snake or save the person? The laws are there in their places even in America and all over the world. Yet the terrorists have not lowered their activities. The anti-terror law would come into effect only when they are caught. You catch one, hundreds spring up daily. Its time to dispassionately analyse the genesis of the problem and what can be done in the circumstances. Govt and other agencies must act in coordaination to unearth the hide outs of these people, keep a close watch on the arrival points, sea route, railways, airports and roads. Keep a tight vigil on all the movement of inter-state lorry transport which is the safest way to transport materials, impose certain restrictions in ports, watch for the vulnerable seashores etc. The supply of dangerous chemicals used to manufacture bombs may be tabbed, impose strict restrictions on sale of local explosives used to blast the rocks, mines etc. Such actions alone could be effective. Laws stringent to deal these elements who have no religion, must be effective and quick. We should not take years to hang Afzal Guru and we should not let people responsible for killing in Gujarat scot free either. The crimnal justice system in the country should be impartial and not biased against one community. Justice should be done speedily against all concerned without any bias. This should be ensured and see such cases are tried in fast track courts for quick disposal.
The serial blasts in Bangaluru and Ahmedabad are an act of barbarism, inhuman and highly condemnable. All our sympathies with those killed and injured. Indian govt should act fast with the state govts in combating this menace. This is a dangerous trend and it should be nibbed in the bud.
RE:Islam Prevents Violence and Promotes PEACE..
by BraveIndian on Jul 28, 2008 06:48 AM Permalink
Islam is the fastest growing religion because of the birth rate in the middle east or asia
