It is unfortunate these debates are decaying into Hindus vs. Muslims and NDA vs. Congress debates. We need to determine what is best from country's perspective for its safety. First, is a well trained anti-terrorist squad with branches in states, that is fully trained in intelligence gathering to act proactively. If POTA is desirable then let us have it but let us make sure it is not used to settle personal scores at state level. Right now, the glaring weakness is our intelligence gathering system - we invariably wake up after the blasts have taken place. by all means, let us go ahead with POTA against the terrorists to teach them a deterrent lesson - may be execute them as soon as they are caught, like in the middle east. For God's sake, let us rise above this narrow blame game, for this achieves nothing.
They let all bajrang dal and vhp goons to roam free in society despite killing and raping innocent people. The past and present govt. didnot take action against them. This could happen only in India. Where was POTA then? This kind of discrimination would make India even weaker country. We have to follow rule of law, not a mob mentality.
RE:The NDA implemented POTA against muslims, not against every anti-national groups.
by r patil on Jul 27, 2008 07:12 AM Permalink
Who is stopping congree from arresting bajarang dal in terrrorist laws like POTA?.
yea as if jut making a LAW is going to STOP all this!!!
Don't we have LAW for untouchability since independence???? it still happens. So MR sindhi aka Paki bhagoda Adavani- Just stop farting from your mouth.
RE:making a LAW??? what a crap of Advani
by r patil on Jul 27, 2008 07:39 AM Permalink
So why not discard the untouchability law?anyway since untouchability is still there?why not even abolish all the penal codes as all of them have not stopped murders, looting, raping, kidnapping,cheating.Why have laws anyway?
RE:making a LAW??? what a crap of Advani
by true indian on Jul 27, 2008 03:26 PM Permalink
What a smart guy you are. Only Advani can argue like you. Keep it up my friend. For your information who created this Jihadis. When this Jihadis become more violent? Just dust your memory. Is it not after the demolision of Babri Masjid. Just to satisfy his thirst for vengence, Advaani the Mathwani fragmented India and few of our relegious fanatics followed suit. Now where is Narendra your lover boy who boasted Terrosim could not touch Gujarat while it took toll in other parts of India. It is idiots like Narendra Modi who created this mess.
RE:RE:making a LAW??? what a crap of Advani
by harinder singh on Jul 27, 2008 03:57 PM Permalink
Hi Friends
These blasts just to higlight Nuclear goup IAEA that INDIA can't do anything to stop terrosits outfits.If blasts continue than IAEA will not give oermision to join Civilian Nuclear group because they will make point abou security issue.
Beware this is to stop progress of INDIA only.Nothing wrong with religion or castism.
I favor TADA not only against islamic terrorists, but also against hindu extremists. The hindu organizations like bajrang dal and vhp are not less criminal than islamic terrorist organization. The law should be implemented against all community. Why India is losing war on terror because there is no rule of law.
RE:How about implementing TADA against bajrang dal, vhp & shiv sena activists.
by vipin pm on Jul 27, 2008 02:42 AM Permalink
bajrang dal and vhp are not blowing themself up in public places .. are they...? you are just another 'sickular'...
RE:How about implementing TADA against bajrang dal, vhp & shiv sena activists.
by Jital Patel on Jul 27, 2008 03:07 AM Permalink
It is strange that they do all these things in front of media and police, still our police donot take action against them. It shows that how discriminatory our criminal system is. No country on this earth supports India on war on terror because there is no equal law. India is going to lose this war badly. Indian people are the main responsible for that.
RE:How about implementing TADA against bajrang dal, vhp & shiv sena activists.
by true indian on Jul 27, 2008 03:33 PM Permalink
It still more strange that you so vociferrosly support Bajrangis, VHP & RSS. Are you sure that these people did not let loose havac and riot in 2002.
What ever happening in India in the name of Jihadi is because of Advanis madness to destroy the Babri Masji. In the name of God Advani the Mujahir destroyed our whole nation
RE:How about implementing TADA against bajrang dal, vhp & shiv sena activists.
by r patil on Jul 27, 2008 07:41 AM Permalink
Patel do tell us the difference between terrorism and extremism also.If at all you loose your dear ones in the blast,feel free to tell us that so that we can comdemend the attack and not be communal in our thinking.
RE:How about implementing TADA against bajrang dal, vhp & shiv sena activists.
by r patil on Jul 27, 2008 07:24 AM Permalink
My dear ital you want pota law only if government can garuntee bajrang dal activist to be arrested under pota? Tell me what kind of logic is this? We have seen on how DMK activist openly did goondaism in TN against hindu outfit,why should'nt they be declared terrorist too,then what about congrees communities and ambedkarities gundagiri why shoukd'nt they be declared terrorist under POTA or TADA?See the India does not run on your fansis.SIMI was declared terrorist outfit because of the solid written and logistic proof which was upheld in the court of law.
Your barganing shows only one thing though clearly even when terrorist are giving the reason for doing bombing by alla's will and to take revenge,you also want hindus to be in that organisation,or may be even christains also.
RE:How about implementing TADA against bajrang dal, vhp & shiv sena activists.
by A R M on Jul 27, 2008 12:57 PM Permalink
Good but do you really understand that when BJP/VHP/RSS demolish or attack general particular community in retaliation to SO CALLED HISTORY, it doesn't comme under TADA / POTA but it is a ACT of PATRIOTISM and not terrorism.
NDA goverment wanted to save normal Indians may be close to 200. They were not saving some VIPs son/daughter. Was it a wrong or right choice? No one can say anything. Unless we change constitution and say "No negotiation with terrorist", we will have to make this kind of decision.
Dare to tell this to the families of those 200 victims families that the government was wrong with the decision?
If it will come to picking a single party to trust for the national security, I will pick BJP any day.
RE:Kandhar episode
by A R M on Jul 27, 2008 01:01 PM Permalink
National Security is Demolition of Monuments. Attacking a particular community in Retaliation / Anger / Revenge. Shouting slogans to breed anger & communal tension. These along with other activities are all part of National Security.
RE:Why TADA was replaced by POTA?
by kitttigadu on Jul 27, 2008 12:00 AM Permalink
TADA was allowed to lapse by the PVN goverment in 1995, under the pressure of you know who. It was not in force by the time NDA came to power. So they had to draft POTA.
RE:Why TADA was replaced by POTA?
by Prakash Asrani on Jul 27, 2008 12:06 AM Permalink
POTA or LOTA? Attack on Akshardham, Parliament, Sankatmochan Temple happened when POTA was available. But what can you do when LK Advani was sleeping through all attacks since he was dreaming how to become PM?
RE:Why TADA was replaced by POTA?
by Ramprasad Subramanian on Jul 27, 2008 03:42 AM Permalink
So even having POTA there was terrorist strike means it shows that we need to have still more strict law compared to POTA. Removing of POTA will not help....u understand that first...then talk..
RE:Why TADA was replaced by POTA?
by Guest on Jul 27, 2008 12:07 AM Permalink
Before posting a message, please check your facts. TADA was left to lapse deliberately in 1993 by the Congress for minority appeasement. POTA was enacted in 1999. POTA was purposefully repealed by Congress. Again for the muslim vote-bank.
RE:Why TADA was replaced by POTA?
by true indian on Jul 27, 2008 03:37 PM Permalink
So what you call the speach of Advani praising Jinah in Pakistan, Majority apeasement in Pakistan?
Its clearly a handy work of HAND with following strategic objectives:
Divert peoples attention from Shameful episode of buying MPs to remain in power. Diver peoples attention from price rise, inflation and debacles in foreign policy. Divert peoples attention from amateur and arrogant handling of nuclear agreement. Puncture Left and NDA campaign against nuclear deal by shifting the agenda. Last but most important-to steal national security issues from BJP in the next election by returning the blame. It is clear from the choice of Blasts in BJP ruled states-with a special target on Narendra Modi constituency. Its undoubtadly a HANDY Work of HAND
RE:Its HANDY Work
by Prakash Asrani on Jul 27, 2008 12:03 AM Permalink
Ask Advani why he was sleeping when Jaswant Singh escorted Azhar Massod to Kandahar.
RE:Its HANDY Work
by Bashir on Jul 27, 2008 07:21 AM Permalink
It was beacuse the left & congress instigated the relatives of the passengers to agitate for the release of the hijacked people. The NDA govmnt had no choice.
RE:Its HANDY Work
by RK on Jul 27, 2008 12:54 AM Permalink
They wanted to save normal Indians may be close to 200. They were not saving some VIPs son/daughter. Was it a wrong or right choice? No one can say anything. Unless we change constitution and say "No negotiation with terrorist", we will have to make this kind of decision.
Just for one ethnic Indian procession in Malaysia Malaysian govt invoked Internal Security Act. IMPOTENT CONGRESS WITH OUT ANY DELAY INVOKE TADA / POTA.
RE:INVOKE
by sunny pandit on Jul 26, 2008 11:16 PM Permalink
those who charged lackness on the part of central govt. during the time of BJP in power in central kandhar happend where was they when terrorists attcks parliament, where are they when war with pak inevitable, where werer they when terrorists were freed from indian custody. Idoit make statments and mentally sick follows them without knowing the fact. Event the Lord Krishana said that think just then speak and follow the what is truth. wAKE UP wAKE UP
RE:INVOKE
by Prakash Asrani on Jul 27, 2008 12:09 AM Permalink
Ananth, Writing on rediff you full time occupation? Instead of writing rubbish ten times, why don't you write it once and be done with?
RE:INVOKE
by kitttigadu on Jul 27, 2008 12:01 AM Permalink
don't mock kashmiri pundits idiots. the poster must be a kasmiri jehadi (synonymous with muslim) assuming the name of his victim
